"Woman arrested after admitting having sex with family dog since 13"

[Saint Frankenstein]

I doubt you would hear a case Like that because people would assume the dog attacked the child because of other reasons. You can not ask a Dog why he attacked the child or who he sleep with.

Humans smell, look and feel different then dogs. Dogs that have sex with dogs would seek their kind and not engage with humans. Dogs that have sex with humans may seek other humans for sex.

Do you have any research to back that up?

 

[Treks]

It would be very difficult for them to get research participants since it's illegal in most places (except Australia's capital territory when it was repealed in 1985!!) Hahaha

Corbell moves to reinstate bestiality law - ABC Canberra - Australian Broadcasting Corporation

I'll also add that it's one thing for a woman to have sex with a dog, an entirely different matter when talking about a man having sex with a dog. The latter belongs in the animal cruelty category, imho.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'll also add that it's one thing for a woman to have sex with a dog, an entirely different matter when talking about a man having sex with a dog. The latter belongs in the animal cruelty category, imho.

Depends. There's gay zoosexuals who enjoy being penetrated by male animals. There's hetero zoosexuals who enjoy having vaginal sex with female animals (such as large breeds of dogs and so forth). It might be an issue if they're forcing anal sex, but even that is rather vague.

I remember seeing this hilarious video of this guy trying to do anal on a horse but the horse wasn't paying him any attention, just kept chewing on its food and swishing his tail back and forth, and the guy couldn't get it in in the first place because of anatomical reasons.

 

[Sees]

You actually keyed in on the problem

If human has sex with a dog and the dog likes it, the dog does not have a concept and may seek other humans to have sex with and on refute may get angry and attack the human.

If its a child it could be really bad.

This is the same for all animals they may mistake another human for the one that has sex with them and may hurt that other human because of it.

So you need then to confine them from other humans and this is the penalty they must endure and why it is a crime.

 

[Treks]

Oops, forgot about gay zoosexuals.

I'm not sure about even vaginal sex with a female dog, since they only mate when they're on heat. I can't guarantee that the animal 'taking it' is not uncomfortable, or doesn't like it - at the very least, I'm not sure they'd be getting anything out of it, so it just seems to me like it would be forcing them to undergo something they may not like.

A male dog does not have to be forced to hump someone.

 

[bobhikes]

Do you have any research to back that up?

You mean like the research that says there is no harm to the dog or the research that states the dog likes having sex with humans.

 

[bobhikes]

Of course I'm serious. You know for sure that a dog that has sex with a human will not react any differently towards humans.

 

[Sees]

Of course I'm serious. You know for sure that a dog that has sex with a human will not react any differently towards humans.

Dogs are much more complex than to treat each relationship with another dog, cat, human, etc. as universal with all members of that species. Most will treat each member of a household in a different way, and nonmembers in a different way all together.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Oops, forgot about gay zoosexuals.

I'm not sure about even vaginal sex with a female dog, since they only mate when they're on heat. I can't guarantee that the animal 'taking it' is not uncomfortable, or doesn't like it - at the very least, I'm not sure they'd be getting anything out of it, so it just seems to me like it would be forcing them to undergo something they may not like.

A male dog does not have to be forced to hump someone.

I can't comment about that since I don't know much about men having sex with female animals. It's not what you usually come across. I'd have to talk to guys who are into that to find out how they go about doing it.

I think we can both agree that the harmfulness of interspecies sex is situational rather than across the board.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You mean like the research that says there is no harm to the dog or the research that states the dog likes having sex with humans.

Sources to back up your claim that dogs who have had sex with humans will attack humans who reject them sexually.

 

[bobhikes]

Dogs are much more complex than to treat each relationship with another dog, cat, human, etc. as universal with all members of that species. Most will treat each member of a household in a different way, and nonmembers in a different way all together.

So if a Dog has sex with a family member will it be beneficial to all family members and friends or harmful.

I can bet the dog would be more protective of the human and may develop Alpha tendencies which would be considered violent in the human species.

 

[bobhikes]

Sources to back up your claim that dogs who have had sex with humans will attack humans who reject them sexually.

Give me any research on how a dog behaves after having sex with a human and I let this whole thing go. You're basing your whole argument on what you believe or think you have no facts at all.

Like I said to see's a male dog will probably be more protective of the human(defend against perceive threats). It may also develop Alpha tendencies which in human standards are more violent.

 

[Sees]

So if a Dog has sex with a family member will it be beneficial to all family members and friends or harmful.

I can bet the dog would be more protective of the human and may develop Alpha tendencies which would be considered violent in the human species.

Dogs will mate with other dogs they don't even like. It's not an emotional investment as in a genuine relationship in people terms. It could change/alter their feeling of dominance towards specific people depending on the specific dog, people, what exactly went down, etc.

For dogs sex kinda just takes over on its own and if anything provides a energy/chemical release that will most probably mellow them out. It's very doubtful they have any mental obsession or preoccupations as with humans, in regards to sex. There are strange dogs though... so it's possible they could create a sexually needy pooch. Would have to have its own talk show or something.

 

[bobhikes]

Dogs will mate with other dogs they don't even like. It's not an emotional investment as in a genuine relationship in people terms. It could change/alter their feeling of dominance towards specific people depending on the specific dog, people, what exactly went down, etc.

For dogs sex kinda just takes over on its own and if anything provides a energy/chemical release that will most probably mellow them out. It's very doubtful they have any mental obsession or preoccupations as with humans, in regards to sex. There are strange dogs though... so it's possible they could create a sexually needy pooch. Would have to have its own talk show or something.

I've owned dogs all my life and I know they get attached to humans and defend those human's. I had a dog that I could walk without a lease. Just whistle and he came back never bit anyone. I was playing with my 3 year old nephew. He caught me off guard and jumped on me making me grown. That dog attacked. Fortunately I saw him coming and came moved my nephew out of the way.

You can not tell me you know how sex with a human effects a Dog. Dogs in the wild that have sex are the Alpha's which are the most violent, why is this.

 

[dawny0826]

I'm of the opinion that consenting adults should have the right to do as they please with other consenting adults. I've no problem with the illegality of bestiality.

Animals are not capable of consenting to sex with people - period. To legalize bestiality would legally allow for instances of abuse.

I liken my cats & dogs to my children moreso than my adult husband. They're like children. They rely on us for nourishment, direction and love. I can't fathom how anyone in their right mind could pursue something sexual with an animal.

I don't care how progressive we become as a society - there are certain behaviors that suggest mental illness of a dangerous variety. I've no desire to promote a stigma against those who who are naturally inclined towards something not accepted by most of society. But, what one might talk about and think about is one thing. When acting upon such desire, a line, in my opinion, is crossed. There's a sick element to anyone who would place their sexual desire above the well being of another.

Edit to Include: What concerned me when reading the article is that Dad knew what was going on. I don't understand why Dad & Boyfriend didn't seek help for her. Sometimes, arrest is the only way for people to get the help that they need.

 

[Father Heathen]

Let's say bestality was legalized. Would there be an agency that would supervise sex sessions with animals to ensure that the animal is willing and not experiencing any pain or distress? Because even if some animals can arguably consent, those that don't can't exactly escape, call the police, or file a report.

And comparing the act of quickly and humanely killing an animal for food to raping an animal, likely injuring and traumatizing it in the process is pretty damn dumb.

 

[Skwim]

I'm of the opinion that consenting adults should have the right to do as they please with other consenting adults. I've no problem with the illegality of bestiality.

Animals are not capable of consenting to sex with people - period. To legalize bestiality would legally allow for instances of abuse.

For abuse to take place some kind of harm as to have occurred. What harm to animals do you see taking place in bestiality? From what I've gathered, the animals find it a far more positive than negative experience. As for consent, throughout history we've taken advantage of animals. Think the dogs in the Iditarod race prefer pulling their sleds through snow for hours on end rather than hunkering down in a warm cozy spot? Think oxen enjoy being yoked together to pull heavily laden wagons? Think dairy cows like being tethered by the neck inside barren stalls for years on end while forceably being made pregnant? Think horses like being saddled with heavy packs and made to make long treks through the wilderness? How about calves being slammed to the ground in calf roping contests? Or even aquarium fish kept confined to a ten-gallon fish tank. None of these animals were asked if they'd like to do these things.

 

[dawny0826]

For abuse to take place some kind of harm as to have occurred. What harm to animals do you see taking place in bestiality? From what I've gathered, the animals find it a far more positive than negative experience. As for consent, throughout history we've taken advantage of animals. Think the dogs in the Iditarod race prefer pulling their sleds through snow for hours on end rather than hunkering down in a warm cozy spot? Think oxen enjoy being yoked together to pull heavily laden wagons? Think dairy cows like being tethered by the neck inside barren stalls for years on end while forceably being made pregnant? Think horses like being saddled with heavy packs and made to make long treks through the wilderness? How about calves being slammed to the ground in calf roping contests? Or even aquarium fish kept confined to a ten-gallon fish tank. None of these animals were asked if they'd like to do these things.

I've no qualms with animals being utilized for food sources or for activities within their capability as long as they are well cared for. I do not condone the abuse or neglect of animals. I don't condone utilizing animals for sport, unless it's an activity that the animal has been bred for or is naturally inclined to. In all of the scenarios that you've mentioned above, I wouldn't condone abuse or pushing an animal beyond their capability.

Animals have been important to human livelihood since documented history often out of necessity.

In civilized society, sex amongst humans requires consent and that the participants be of legal age to partake. Animals cannot give consent. Humans can assume or construe consent, but, an animal still, cannot verbalize it and may not comprehend when a human being does intend to abuse or take with force. It's because of this that I liken an animal morseo to a human child than a human adult. Do we condone or legalize the sexual abuse of children because they may not outwardly oppose to it?

Most animals are not anatomically designed for sexual activity with humans. Even if an animal does not appear to be harmed, such activity may still yield negative physiological or psychological impact to animal or human.

In the 37 states where bestiality is illegal, if made legal, how does the government regulate what is and isn't acceptable? What parameters would be established to ensure that humans are not freely given the option to abuse?

Within our own species, too often, the victim sees no justice.

 

[Skwim]

I've no qualms with animals being utilized for food sources or for activities within their capability as long as they are well cared for. I do not condone the abuse or neglect of animals. I don't condone utilizing animals for sport, unless it's an activity that the animal has been bred for or is naturally inclined to. In all of the scenarios that you've mentioned above, I wouldn't condone abuse or pushing an animal beyond their capability.

Animals have been important to human livelihood since documented history often out of necessity.

In civilized society, sex is not something that can be taken without consent.

But forced labor is.

Most animals are not anatomically designed for sexual activity with humans.

And most animals aren't involved in bestiality. But those that are, are well "designed" for it.

Even if an animal does not appear to be harmed, such activity may still yield negative physiological or psychological impact.

And potatoes may sprout from your ears, but without evidence it's a moot point.

 

[dawny0826]

But forced labor is.

And most animals aren't involved in bestiality. But those that are, are well "designed" for it.

And potatoes may sprout from your ears, but without evidence it's a moot point.

The photographs above may or may not represent abusive situations. If abuse is depicted in any of the aforementioned photographs, I've already explained to you, that I object to it.

I don't understand how you can claim with honesty and confidence that animals used in bestiality are well designed for it. I don't think it illogical to question "design" when considering the size of some domesticated animals in comparison to an adult male or female.

You've presented no evidence to refute that bestiality can yield negate physiological or psychological impact. Your points are no less moot than my own.