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Women need to start boycotting sports
- Thread starter IndigoChild5559
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Well, I do feel sorry for her but oh well, I'm not in charge of anything significant.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
She tested way too high for testosterone in her system.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
what was her level at the 2023 world championships?
We Never Know
No Slack
Read the link then you will know as much as me.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
your doesn't say which is why I am asking you
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't remember but it was too high.
https://www.webmhttps://www.verywellhealth.com/do-women-have-testosterone-7563176#:~:text=The%20short%20answer%20is%20yes.%20Women%E2%80%99s%20ovaries,produce%20testosterone%2C%20but%20at%20lower%20levels%20than%20men.d.com/a-to-z-guides/testosterone-test
We Never Know
No Slack
Then you know as much as me from it.
But who knows, maybe google could help you.
I will start you off on your search..
Algeria boxer Imane Khelif wins first Olympic fight when opponent Angela Carini quits
Imane Khelif of Algeria won her opening Olympic boxing bout when opponent Angela Carini of Italy quit after just 46 seconds, an unusual occurrence at the Olympics.
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Okay, I had to check out the terminology that the Olympics use and it appears that these athletes are subjects of Swyer Syndrome:
medlineplus.gov
They often develop vaginas and even a working uterus, but they have no ovaries. Instead their testes are in roughly that location.
'People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads. The streak gonadal tissue is at risk of developing cancer that is often hard-to-detect, so it is usually removed surgically. Swyer syndrome is also called 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis; the medical term “dysgenesis” means "abnormal development." '
So demands that these athletes strip to be called "woman" would not change anything. They would still look just like other women, at least down below. I do not think that these individuals had their internal testes removed and that is likely the source of their high testosterone levels.
The question is "what is fair"?
Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics
Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.
They often develop vaginas and even a working uterus, but they have no ovaries. Instead their testes are in roughly that location.
'People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads. The streak gonadal tissue is at risk of developing cancer that is often hard-to-detect, so it is usually removed surgically. Swyer syndrome is also called 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis; the medical term “dysgenesis” means "abnormal development." '
So demands that these athletes strip to be called "woman" would not change anything. They would still look just like other women, at least down below. I do not think that these individuals had their internal testes removed and that is likely the source of their high testosterone levels.
The question is "what is fair"?
We Never Know
No Slack
Okay, I had to check out the terminology that the Olympics use and it appears that these athletes are subjects of Swyer Syndrome:
Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics
Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.
They often develop vaginas and even a working uterus, but they have no ovaries. Instead their testes are in roughly that location.
'People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads. The streak gonadal tissue is at risk of developing cancer that is often hard-to-detect, so it is usually removed surgically. Swyer syndrome is also called 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis; the medical term “dysgenesis” means "abnormal development." '
So demands that these athletes strip to be called "woman" would not change anything. They would still look just like other women, at least down below. I do not think that these individuals had their internal testes removed and that is likely the source of their high testosterone levels.
The question is "what is fair"?
DSD aka Differences of Sexual Development
Disorders of sex development - Wikipedia
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That covers quite a few different disorders. I do believe that one of your earlier sources mentioned that it was "46 XY' DSD. From the article that you just posted:DSD aka Differences of Sexual Development
Disorders of sex development - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
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- Swyer syndrome (Pure Gonadal Dysgenesis or XY gonadal dysgenesis) is a type of hypogonadism in a person whose karyotype is 46,XY. The person is externally female with streak gonads, and left untreated, will not experience puberty. Such gonads are typically surgically removed (as they have a significant risk of developing tumors) and a typical medical treatment would include hormone replacement therapy with female hormones.[59][60]"
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Hormonal therapy does not reverse the effects of testosterone. Such individuals still have greater strength, larger lungs, larger hearts, more hemoglobin, are taller, have longer limbs, and more.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It's reported in numerous articles. Here is one:
Boxer with male chromosomes wins female boxing match in Olympics after opponent abruptly quits
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Can you find something we outside the US can access?
And something which at least mentions the source of the claim and not just the claim?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Boxer with male chromosomes wins female boxing match in Olympics after opponent abruptly quits
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Is there some reason you cannot access that article?
If you are genuinely having problems, simply google "olympics boxing 'male chromosomes' " Plenty of options will come up.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
EU-rules I guess. And it is not an article, it is a video.
Now you made the claim, so you find the source of the claim.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Transgender topics are not normally political ones. However, the specific topic of those who are biologically male competing against females is indeed a political topic.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The discrimination is against women athletes.
That's for sure, that's why I said in my very first post that there should be a separate category.
But we are even beyond that. It's also about a hormone levels that are not compatible with the average biological woman.
Olympics 2024: Imane Khelif who failed gender eligibility test at World Championships wins bout after opponent quits
Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is competing in the womens welterweight event at the Olympic Games in Paris; Khelif was disqualified from the World Championships last year due to testosterone levels