World in chaos

[Twilight Hue]

We create our own problems.

 

[Bunyip]

Actually, I'd say the human race has basically been ignoring God or creating made-up gods of their own liking throughout history instead of seeking help from the real Creator and that is the reason for all the problems on earth.

Sure, but you seem to believe that creator made very a violent, wicked and evil humanity. So why worship an incompetant god?

 

[columbus]

We create our own problems.

We create many, even most. But there is a reason that some disasters are referred to as "acts of God".

Tom

 

[Twilight Hue]

We create many, even most. But there is a reason that some disasters are referred to as "acts of God".

Tom

Maybe, yet even in cases of disasters, we still create our own problems.

 

[InChrist]

Why do you ignore how bad the world has been in much more chaos in the past?

Is it because your trying force mythology into reality so hard you throw facts out the window ????


Why do you want this mythology to be right so bad?

Everyone who has stated the end is near, has been 110% factually wrong, why do you want to join those in error?

I'm not ignoring how bad or chaotic things in the world have been in the past. I'm just saying that I see the things happening now to be lining up with the end of the age as revealed in the scriptures. sorry, if you don't agree. That certainly is your option, but no matter how many times you say "mythology" in reference to the Bible does not make it so or change my perspective on the reliability and integrity of the scriptures.

Sure there have been those who've said the end is near an many who have claimed false dates, but that does not negate the fact that Jesus said there will be an end of the age and a time of His return. He also plainly said to "Watch". So whether you agree or believe this does not change reality, from my perspective, that there will be point in time when this occurs and there are indications to watch for, if one choose to do so.

 

[Bunyip]

:angel2:

I'm not ignoring how bad or chaotic things in the world have been in the past. I'm just saying that I see the things happening now to be lining up with the end of the age as revealed in the scriptures. sorry, if you don't agree. That certainly is your option, but no matter how many times you say "mythology" in reference to the Bible does not make it so or change my perspective on the reliability and integrity of the scriptures.

Sure there have been those who've said the end is near an many who have claimed false dates, but that does not negate the fact that Jesus said there will be an end of the age and a time of His return. He also plainly said to "Watch". So whether you agree or believe this does not change reality, from my perspective, that there will be point in time when this occurs and there are indications to watch for, if one choose to do so.

Sure my friend, but Jesus said that his return would be 2000 years ago, that prophecy has already failed.

 

[InChrist]

Sure, but you seem to believe that creator made very a violent, wicked and evil humanity. So why worship an incompetant god?

No, I believe that God made humanity good and it was human sin and disobedience which introduced violence, evil, and wickedness into the world.

 

[Bunyip]

No, I believe that God made humanity good and it was human sin and disobedience which introduced violence, evil, and wickedness into the world.

Nah, don't buy it. A bad workman blames his tools, a bad owner blames his dog. If people are wicked, god made them so.

 

[InChrist]

:angel2:

Sure my friend, but Jesus said that his return would be 2000 years ago, that prophecy has already failed.

Jesus said His return would be at the end of the age and Paul further states when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.

 

[Bunyip]

Jesus said His return would be at the end of the age and Paul further states when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.

You need to read your bible, he said that he would return while some of those who saw his mission still lived. He did not come, that prophecy failed nearly 2000 years ago.

 

[InChrist]

Nah, don't buy it. A bad workman blames his tools, a bad owner blames his dog. If people are wicked, god made them so.

Blame is the name of the game for those who don't want to take personal responsibility.

 

[InChrist]

You need to read your bible, he said that he would return while some of those who saw his mission still lived. He did not come, that prophecy failed nearly 2000 years ago.

Maybe you will kindly give me the reference to the passage which you think says that Jesus indicated He would return while some disciples still lived.

 

[Bunyip]

Blame is the name of the game for those who don't want to take personal responsibility.

Exactly right - that is why I am an atheist. I prefer to take responsibility, rather than pray for salvation.

 

[Bunyip]

Maybe you will kindly give me the reference to the passage which you think says that Jesus indicated He would return while some disciples still lived.

Mathew 24:34

 

[InChrist]

Exactly right - that is why I am an atheist. I prefer to take responsibility, rather than pray for salvation.

What do you have against salvation? Do you really want to bear the burden of all your sins alone for eternity?

 

[Bunyip]

What do you have against salvation? Do you really want to bear the burden of all your sins alone for eternity?

I would definitely prefer to take responsibility for my sins. And yes, they are my burden to bear.

 

[InChrist]

Mathew 24:34

If that verse is read in context of the entire passage I think it is clear that Jesus is speaking in reference to a future generation, the generation which sees the signs He has just finished speaking about. It is this generation which will not pass away and will see His return. I believe one of the most indicative signs is that of the re-establishment of the nation of Israel.

 

[InChrist]

I would definitely prefer to take responsibility for my sins. And yes, they are my burden to bear.

Seeking salvation through the Savior Jesus Christ does not mean one does not take responsibility because to receive salvation means admitting ones sin and need of forgiveness. Are you sure you are able to bear your sins eternally?

 

[Estro Felino]

No, I believe that God made humanity good and it was human sin and disobedience which introduced violence, evil, and wickedness into the world.

Exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself.
man was created in the image of God. That means, that God thought of a perfect, good and obedient creature, when He created him.
But he gave him free will too. free will implies freedom to sin.

 

[InChrist]

Exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself.
man was created in the image of God. That means, that God thought of a perfect, good and obedient creature, when He created him.
But he gave him free will too. free will implies freedom to sin.

Yet, you did and said it very well!