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World in chaos

idav

Being
Premium Member
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[FONT=&quot]I think America is increasingly becoming a drugged out culture, unable to cope with the anxiety of the declining conditions[FONT=&quot] of life[/FONT] and the food system of the world is increasingly being threatening by humans tampering with plant genetics. Just further indications to me that things under [/FONT]human control ( apart from God the Creator) are rapidly breaking down while at the same time revealing the necessity of a Savior to rescue us soon from self-destruction and destroying all life on the earth.

Until our hero comes to the rescue God just lets it turn into a cesspool. How awesome of him. You know it isn't from lack of humans trying, nobody claims to be perfect. If it is a cesspool its cause thats what was created.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Maybe, but may not. Jesus said to "Watch" meaning that there are specific things to watch for. So at some point the signs which indicate the end of the age and His soon return will occur. Although I can't know the hour, day, month, or year I just happen to believe those signs are rapidly taking place at present.
You mean the generic signs. Things that commonly happen?
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Until our hero comes to the rescue God just lets it turn into a cesspool. How awesome of him. You know it isn't from lack of humans trying, nobody claims to be perfect. If it is a cesspool its cause thats what was created.


Maybe no one claims to be perfect, but plenty of people claim to be good enough to be in control of their own life, the lives of others, or things in this world without any acknowledgement or accountability to God the Creator and with no desire to seek His wisdom or guidance for life. It is pretty awesome of God to respect human will and allow us to see the consequences of our own actions. Rather than force humans to submit He waits for us to come to the realization of our need to seek His guidance and wisdom.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
You mean the generic signs. Things that commonly happen?


I don't necessarily think the altering the genetics of plants or potential to destroy the entire world food system is generic or something which has commonly occurred.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
I don't necessarily think the altering the genetics of plants or potential to destroy the entire world food system is generic or something which has commonly occurred.

And where is that mentioned in the bible?
 

InChrist

Free4ever
And where is that mentioned in the bible?


Revelation 6:8 and 18:8, which I believe apply to the the last days, both mention famine. I think the genetic altering of food crops is simply setting the stage for such famines to occur.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Revelation 6:8 and 18:8, which I believe apply to the the last days, both mention famine. I think the genetic altering of food crops is simply setting the stage for such famines to occur.
Famines happen all the time. Like I said generic stuff. Yawn
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Famines happen all the time. Like I said generic stuff. Yawn

True. famines happen all the time. But do they or have they ever happened on a global scale? Have the genetics of food crops ever been altered before as they are now to the extent that once this altered plant DNA is out in the environment all major food producing crops may be threatened?
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
True. famines happen all the time. But do they or have they ever happened on a global scale? Have the genetics of food crops ever been altered before as they are now to the extent that once this altered plant DNA is out in the environment all major food producing crops may be threatened?

Those don't suggest "on a global scale". All the warning signs are generic and common.

Even if it did, it still just generic common problems.
 
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LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I think this world is in chaos
If it weren't, there'd be no life (living systems are complex dynamical systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium or- in common parlance- chaotic).

I believe this is a strong indication pointing to the end of the age and the soon return of Jesus Christ.
So the mass extinctions including those in which almost all life on the planet died were less "chaotic", or are these not harbingers of the endtime because humans didn't yet exist? Out of curiosity, does the fact that for over 100,000 years life for all of humanity was so vastly more precarious than now that our survival as a species wasn't really guaranteed to the extent it now is factor into your interpretation of current events (i.e., we now have the ability to adapt environments to suit our needs as never before and there is no predator that presents even the slightest threat; all the threats are either part of natural phenomena, caused by us, or a combination of both)? How about the fact that rampant disease, war, famine, drought, etc., are for the first time items worthy of note, rather than the status quo?
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
The problem is that people have been making this same claim for thousands of years, it is a prediction with a 100% perfect failure rate.

How frequent earthquakes are has only been measurable for a few decades - so we simply do not know if it is increasing or not

Ebola is unlikely to ever kill anywhere near as high a proportion of the population as did the plague, the Spanish flu, typhoid, diptheria, malaria and so on.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I think this world is in chaos and every day this is verified with news accounts and events taking place all across the globe. I believe this is a strong indication pointing to the end of the age and the soon return of Jesus Christ. In this thread I am going to post some of these news stories and events as I have time, but I'll only be able to highlight very few at a time since so much is happening so fast it's really too hard to keep up with everything. Feel free to read and/or comment or discuss.

Earthquake frequency increasing: Rate of strong quakes doubles in 2014 -- Earth Changes -- Sott.net

Ebola death toll rises as its reach spreads past Africa - CNN.com

Mad Science: 'GM Micro Humans' 'Farmed' for Drug Testing : Natural Society
Personally I think the presence of the lord is felt many times, over for many things... and there are many different ends of ages. What about WW11? I think if you had lived through that or WW1 you would think it the end of the age. The end will come to most of us when we die. As for the end of the planet, I think there is a few billion years to go yet.
Each day is an end to someone.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Earthquake frequency increasing: Rate of strong quakes doubles in 2014 -- Earth Changes -- Sott.net.
Ebola death toll rises as its reach spreads past Africa - CNN.com.
Mad Science: 'GM Micro Humans' 'Farmed' for Drug Testing : Natural Society.
So, when and how soon you think God is going to hold court?
 

InChrist

Free4ever
If it weren't, there'd be no life (living systems are complex dynamical systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium or- in common parlance- chaotic).


So the mass extinctions including those in which almost all life on the planet died were less "chaotic", or are these not harbingers of the endtime because humans didn't yet exist? Out of curiosity, does the fact that for over 100,000 years life for all of humanity was so vastly more precarious than now that our survival as a species wasn't really guaranteed to the extent it now is factor into your interpretation of current events (i.e., we now have the ability to adapt environments to suit our needs as never before and there is no predator that presents even the slightest threat; all the threats are either part of natural phenomena, caused by us, or a combination of both)? How about the fact that rampant disease, war, famine, drought, etc., are for the first time items worthy of note, rather than the status quo?

I'm not saying that the precarious situations of famines, disease, wars, etc of the past were not major life-threatening events, Just saying the situation at present is different and indicative to me of the end of the age because it aligns with biblical information concerning things which would take place before the end of history as we know it and the return of Christ. Along with that, the threat from nuclear devastation is now possible on a global scale, which was not a factor at any other time in history. And, yes, I think that this threat of the extinction of humans is significant because I believe the earth was created especially by God with a purpose and for humans made in His image. So I believe when it gets to the point (which only God knows) where humans have so rejected God, His purposes and are capable or about to destroy His creation and each other He will step in and end it.
 
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