Writer claims Trump raped her

[We Never Know]

When did Donald Trump get out of prison after this trial for rape? Because E. Jean Carroll pressed charges when?

From what I read in the link the supposed rape supposedly happened in the mid 90's and a picture of her, her husband, Trump and his wife at a NBC party in 1987 is her proof that Trump knows her. Trump claimed he didn't and never met her. Of course the picture could be just people convercing at a party and Trump may not even remember it. I know I've met many a can't recall because it wasn't important.

 

[We Never Know]

The article is from 18 months ago. He's recently toned down his vulgar and abusive language, and he's more concerned about all human life as evident when he called off the lethal airstrike against Iran on Thursday.

So he doesn't act like a typical male any longer?

 

[Salvador]

Changed from what?

So he doesn't act like a typical male any longer?

I believe he now behaves himself more like a humanitarian extraordinaire.

 

[dianaiad]

Good afternoon dianaiad. Allow me to introduce myself. I go by the name of ecco.

I am a liberal progressive Democrat and I don't excuse Bill Clinton for what he did and I have never defended him for doing it.

There, now you can longer claim that you haven't met a Democrat "who didn't excuse him, defend him."

Thank you. That IS refreshing.

Now tell me: if you had been a member of congress during his impeachment trial, would you have voted to convict? Given that the vote was solidly along party lines?

 

[Father Heathen]

No choice. I live in California.

I think it's just as foolish to uncritically idolize either if the Clinton's as it is to Trump.
Cultish followings of politicians is creepy to me, regardless of party.

 

[dianaiad]

Which county and how did you vote? No need to answer if you choose not to do so. Unlike others here, I won't harass you. I'm just curious.

LA county and I voted for Trump. Had to hold my nose, but I was voting AGAINST Hillary, and my preferred candidate (Mickey Mouse) would have been, effectively, a vote FOR her. It looks like I'll have to do that again, because there doesn't seem to be a single Democrat running that I'd want near the Oval Office. I'm willing to wait and see, though.

 

[dianaiad]

I think it's just as foolish to uncritically idolize either if the Clinton's as it is to Trump.
Cultish followings of politicians is creepy to me, regardless of party.

That's true. And trust me, I do NOT idolize Trump. He's a loudmouthed sleazeball, but he seems to be doing a pretty good job so far.

 

[Road Warrior]

LA county and I voted for Trump. Had to hold my nose, but I was voting AGAINST Hillary, and my preferred candidate (Mickey Mouse) would have been, effectively, a vote FOR her. It looks like I'll have to do that again, because there doesn't seem to be a single Democrat running that I'd want near the Oval Office. I'm willing to wait and see, though.

Understood. I could not vote for either deplorable and, after literally decades of voting for the lesser of two evils, voted 3rd party. It's one reason why neither deplorable received over 49% of the vote.

 

[Shad]

Remember before you claim that this is nothing more than a he said/she said that there are at least another 24 women who have accused Trump of sexual assault.

An accusation is still just an accusation thus not evidence of action nor evidence under law. Those 24 people would have to be on the witness stand to provide testimony which also opens them to cross examination as per the 6th and 14th amendments

"Believe me without question" is why there is something called due process.

 

[Road Warrior]

An accusation is still just an accusation thus not evidence of action nor evidence under law. Those 24 people would have to be on the witness stand to provide testimony which also opens them to cross examination as per the 6th and 14th amendments

"Believe me without question" is why there is something called due process.

True. OTOH, accusations were all the Republicans needed when going after Clinton for exactly the same accusatoins. The real irony? Trump brought the women Clinton harassed and/or raped to a debate with Hillary.

Trump appears with Bill Clinton accusers before debate - CNNPolitics


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...t-trump/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.119b67b3026b
....Trump called Broaddrick “courageous,” and if Broaddrick was courageous, then certainly Carroll is as well. For Carroll’s story is at least as compelling as Broaddrick’s — if not more so.

And that is because Carroll’s claim, for a number of reasons, actually rests upon a significantly stronger foundation than Broaddrick’s.

For one thing, before she went public with her story, Broaddrick had repeatedly denied that Clinton had assaulted her, even under oath: In an affidavit she had submitted in Paula Jones’s sexual harassment case against Clinton, Broaddrick had sworn that the allegations “that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies … are untrue,” that the press had previously sought “corroboration of these tales,” but that she had “repeatedly denied the allegations.” (Disclosure: I provided behind-the-scenes pro bono legal assistance to Jones’s lawyers.)

For another, Carroll’s account is supported by the sheer number of claims that have now surfaced against Trump — claims in which women have accused Trump of engaging in unwelcome or forcible sexual conduct or assault against them. These claims — all denied by the president — far outnumber the publicized sexual misconduct incidents that involved Clinton, which mostly concerned rumors or allegations of consensual affairs.

And as if to bring things full circle, Carroll’s account is also of course supported by Trump’s depraved remarks on the “Access Hollywood” video, of which there was simply no equivalent in Broaddrick’s case. Whatever else he may have done, Clinton never made a video like that. What Trump described on the video is exactly what Carroll says he did to her.

 

[We Never Know]

An accusation is still just an accusation thus not evidence of action nor evidence under law. Those 24 people would have to be on the witness stand to provide testimony which also opens them to cross examination as per the 6th and 14th amendments

"Believe me without question" is why there is something called due process.

A huge difference is, some get caught, some don't". I would think if everything would come to light, over half our government would be behind bars.

 

[ecco]

Did you vote for him the first time and/or the second time?

I did and will always vote for the Democrat over the Republican.

 

[ecco]

Your quoting Donald Trump's locker room trash talk to one of his showbiz buddies long ago before Trump became a better person, didn't make me vomit, but let's just say I wasn't too pleased about that.

Franklin Graham Wants You To Know Trump Is A Changed Man

Franklin Graham Wants You to Know Trump Is a Changed Man (but Let's Hope His Remaining Years Are Moral)

"Trump became a better person"
You were making a joke - right?
From your link...

Another day, another so-called “faith leader” betraying his call to be salt and light to a dark world, in favor of political expediency.

Franklin Graham is being trotted out to use his name and ministry as a shield against that which is indefensible – or at least, should be, for Christians.

If Christians and those who claim to be leaders seek to carry out the Great Commission – that is, to draw souls out of the world and tell them the Good News of Jesus Christ and salvation – latching onto an unrepentant man like Donald Trump and singing his praises is NOT the way.​

 

[ecco]

I've been a law abiding citizen for quite some time,....I'm a changed man from what I was many years ago.

I don't know if that makes you better or worse now.

 

[ecco]

The article is from 18 months ago.

YOU posted it. Did you just read the headline and go: Oh, Goody, an article supporting Trump? Hint: Read the article before posting it. That way you avoid being embarrassed.

 

[ecco]

Thank you. That IS refreshing.

Now tell me: if you had been a member of congress during his impeachment trial, would you have voted to convict? Given that the vote was solidly along party lines?

Re: Clinton impeachment
31 Democrats defect, support impeachment inquiry - October 8, 1998
31 Democrats defect, support impeachment inquiry

In the end, 31 Democrats abandoned their party's president and supported the GOP proposal for an investigation of Clinton without limits on its length or scope
​

I would not have voted for "an investigation of Clinton without limits on its length or scope".



0 Republicans have spoken out against anything Trump has done.

 

[ecco]

Understood. I could not vote for either deplorable and, after literally decades of voting for the lesser of two evils, voted 3rd party. It's one reason why neither deplorable received over 49% of the vote.

Then you are probably OK with the decision to drop out of the Paris Accord; the decision to roll back EPA safeguards; the Supreme Court nominations.

 

[columbus]

I did and will always vote for the Democrat over the Republican.

I wasn't like that for my younger life. I looked at candidates, not party.
But a raft of things, from the Clinton Impeachment Circus, through the Bush administration debacle, and finally the TeaParty takeover of the GOP, left me a straight ticket Democratic voter.

Despite them supporting all kinds of stuff I don't. I came to the conclusion that the Democrats, overall, are more about the country and less about party politics. And the lies a candidate tells before getting elected don't matter much.
Tom

 

[SkepticThinker]

We have a tape of Trump admitting to raping someone in a dressing room?

Please, I'd love to hear that one. Got a reference?

Not rape, but there is a tape from the Howard Stern Show where Trump talked about walking backstage into the Miss Teen USA changing room and checking out all the teenage girls while they were half undressed. That story is corroborated by several girls, including Miss Arizona.

A Timeline of Donald Trump's Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe

 

[SkepticThinker]

Please let's agree to disagree what constitutes rape.

Imo, if there weren't either any DNA evidence left in her from somebody else and if she weren't bleeding profusely out of her you know what, then she didn't get raped.

WTF?