Yadavas Hebrews farmers. How come Jews thought Hebrews were slaves?

[Bthoth]

and what on earth are you talking about "Arabs"

Nomads of canaan............ Arabs.

what a joke .. descended from Abraham.. yeah friend .. Arab's - Canaanites the same thing Have you not been listening ..not paying attention -- "Canaanites" the lineage and language of the peoples in the Region ..

OK............

Nomads living in the Hills .. speaking a Canaanite Dialect

arabs

- the precurser to Hebrew -

Describes the nomads as 'Arab' (desert nomads)

some of whome settle in Egypt -- some captured as or later made slaves -- escape - migrate from Egypt towards the promised land ..

What promised land? The New Kingdom of EGYPT is what the fools consider a promised land, that land is what ahkenatan heading too but stayed in the desert and opened up Amarna.


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"Arabs" .. what a joke .. seriously ..

What are you against the semitic language group (anti-semitic)

The nomads that you enjoy boasting about are what the term 'arab' is describing in the ancient proto semitic language groups.

But you just dont like that FACT.

Go look it up. Take a few minutes and you may also learn that there was no promised land during the time claimed to be of moses as it was in FACT the New kingdom of EGYPT.

 

[Sargonski]

Nomads of canaan............ Arabs.

OK............



arabs

Describes the nomads as 'Arab' (desert nomads)

What promised land? The New Kingdom of EGYPT is what the fools consider a promised land, that land is what ahkenatan heading too but stayed in the desert and opened up Amarna.


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What are you against the semitic language group (anti-semitic)

The nomads that you enjoy boasting about are what the term 'arab' is describing in the ancient proto semitic language groups.

But you just dont like that FACT.

Go look it up. Take a few minutes and you may also learn that there was no promised land during the time claimed to be of moses as it was in FACT the New kingdom of EGYPT.

Look Friend- your not realizing how silly the term Arab's was in context of the conversation .. has absolutely nothing to so with the term Semite ... although this would be an equally silly term ..just as correct as the term Arab.. how you go wandering off calling me "Anti Semite" in some la la loopy fantasy land conversation that I am not a part of .. I have no idea.

and I previously stated these were semetic language groups .. you now crying out "But you just don't like that fact" ?? .. something wrong wit your ability to understand what is being said to you friend.

Rather hard for a caucasion person to avoid having at least a little Semite in their DNA -- Semites were the dominant Empire in Mesopotamia lasting 3000 years .. gonna be a whole lot of Semite mixed in with the folks in Mesopotamia and beyond ..

Who said I didn't like the fact that Semites once Ruled the World ? .. and why are you making up such fallcious nonsence .. had 3 strawmen in your post above. .. raging Ad Hom Fallacy..

You finish with "No promised land during the time of Moses" --- as if this is new information .. something disputed .. as opposed to something I already told you many times. What part of "Joshua didn't happen" .. did you fail to understand .. What part of Jerusalem was captured ~ 1000 BC .. not 1300 BC .. failed to penetrate ??

Anti Semite ?? --- are you kidding me .. right out of the blue .. in whoop tee doo land ... talk to me no more if you are going to spout such nonsense.

 

[Bthoth]

Look Friend- your not realizing how silly the term Arab's was in context of the conversation .. has absolutely nothing to so with the term Semite ... although this would be an equally silly term ..just as correct as the term Arab.. how you go wandering off calling me "Anti Semite" in some la la loopy fantasy land conversation that I am not a part of .. I have no idea.

and I previously stated these were semetic language groups .. you now crying out "But you just don't like that fact" ?? .. something wrong wit your ability to understand what is being said to you friend.

You mix up language with tribe style of rational.

Rather hard for a caucasion person to avoid having at least a little Semite in their DNA -- Semites were the dominant Empire in Mesopotamia lasting 3000 years .. gonna be a whole lot of Semite mixed in with the folks in Mesopotamia and beyond ..

Semite, semitic... etc.. is a language group, not a tribe or gene DNA. That combining and modeling is what ruins conversations. As it implies an ignorance to what is actual. Religious opinion does not rule what is true.

Who said I didn't like the fact that Semites once Ruled the World ? .. and why are you making up such fallcious nonsence .. had 3 strawmen in your post above. .. raging Ad Hom Fallacy..

The nomads, especially of the ancient periods is what the word arab means. It does not mean muslim or the such. When you mention nomads of mesopotamia I know the people are arab (nomadic). When i said anti-semitic,, I am laughing at the scope that you dont like it when I address the nomadic tribes by the semitic language representing the nomads as arab. The anti-semitic is my crack up using it in context as against the language.

You finish with "No promised land during the time of Moses" --- as if this is new information .. something disputed ..

Then why use the term 'promised land'. It's not a real scenario except to the religiously complacent.

as opposed to something I already told you many times. What part of "Joshua didn't happen" .. did you fail to understand ..

I did not see all conversations or read about a "Joshua didn't happen". I focus on our discussion.

What part of Jerusalem was captured ~ 1000 BC .. not 1300 BC .. failed to penetrate ??

No idea what that means.

Anti Semite ?? --- are you kidding me .. right out of the blue .. in whoop tee doo land ... talk to me no more if you are going to spout such nonsense.

against the language.

i dont care if fools use that as a blanket to claim a person is against israel or the such. I have long ago comprehended that the word semitic is about a language group.

 

[Sargonski]

You mix up language with tribe style of rational.

Semite, semitic... etc.. is a language group, not a tribe or gene DNA. That combining and modeling is what ruins conversations. As it implies an ignorance to what is actual. Religious opinion does not rule what is true.



The nomads, especially of the ancient periods is what the word arab means. It does not mean muslim or the such. When you mention nomads of mesopotamia I know the people are arab (nomadic). When i said anti-semitic,, I am laughing at the scope that you dont like it when I address the nomadic tribes by the semitic language representing the nomads as arab. The anti-semitic is my crack up using it in context as against the language.

Then why use the term 'promised land'. It's not a real scenario except to the religiously complacent.

I did not see all conversations or read about a "Joshua didn't happen". I focus on our discussion.

No idea what that means.

against the language.

i dont care if fools use that as a blanket to claim a person is against israel or the such. I have long ago comprehended that the word semitic is about a language group.

Your claim that "Semetic" is only a language group is false nonsense. .. that you have no idea what capturing Jerusalem in 1000 BC means -- I can not help you.

 

[Aupmanyav]

The wiki article says there are no mentions of Meluhha (or Melukhkha) after 1760 BCE. How does that timeline compare with the destruction of Dwarka? (Also the word Melukhkha {with the k sounds} seems familiar to me for some reason. Does it have something to do with mountains? If so, then it is probably not Dwarka.)

It ties well with what was happening in India. Decline of Indus Valley civilization and the advent of Aryans in India. I don't know about 'submersion' of Dwarka. The in-fight among Yadavas can just be mythology, and the question remains whether the people in that region can even be called Yadavas? That is only a mythological legend. The people who inhabit that area are now known as 'Patidar / Patels'.
Meluha / Melukhkha is the same as 'Malwa' in India, which denotes 'a prosperous agricultural region', nothing to do with mountains (Mal is money, property). The southern region of Indian state of Punjab and the eastern region of Madhya Pradesh (interior to Gujarat) are two places known in India as Malwa. Dwarka is situated at the tip of Saurashtra peninsula of Gujarat (near the word 'G' in the image).

 

[River Sea]

A one sentence story. Shakes my head.



Respect has been offered. Information shared. Respect has not been returned. Goodbye. You will need to ask your questions to someone else if you have any about Judaism.

I tried to give respect to your FRIEND Bhanesh who shared this video on youtube for us all to see.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala

I've never been to any of these in India.

 

[River Sea]

Abraham almost killed his son—was that abuse or not abuse?
Moses killed a person, and Krishna killed a person. Was that abuse or not abuse?
How come in these books there are so many people who killed others or almost killed others?
Was that common back then, compared to now?

 

[River Sea]

Krishna Moses went up a volcano - to get laws - how come people couldn't figure any of this out by themselves?

 

[River Sea]

Moses made coffee Hebrews it. Did Krishna make any coffee? If they put cream in their coffee did they milk the cow or did someone else milk the cow?

 

[River Sea]

Lets ask Moses and Krishna what it's like to be a bat

 

[crossfire]

View attachment 84172

Lets ask Moses and Krishna what it's like to be a bat

Hey, lots of people also claim that Buddha was an avatar of Vishnu, even though Buddha called Kanha (the Pali word for Krishna) Mara.

 

[Bthoth]

Your claim that "Semetic" is only a language group is false nonsense. ..

That spelling sem E tic is not a word.

What is the literal meaning of Semitic?


The philological term 'Semitic' referred to a family of languages originating in the Middle East whose descendant languages today are spoken by millions of people mostly across Western Asia and North Africa.

that you have no idea what capturing Jerusalem in 1000 BC means -- I can not help you.

I had no idea what is meant in the conversation. You are using that as some kind of catch all. That time frame only has references in biblical documents. IN archaeological works, the egyptian controlled that area from about 1900 bce and confirmed beyond the time of the Amarna tablets (archaeological) evidence.

Bible is not evidence or reference of historical accounts. Bible is religious opinion.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Was that abuse or not abuse?

Depends on what side you are.

I've never been to any of these in India.

Most interesting and in many varieties. There are generally two processions processions - one at the beginning of festivities and the other on the day when Rama's younger brother Bharat, whom his mother wanted him to be declared the king, returns from his maternal grandpa's place on hearing of his father's death in sorrow of his order to Rama to go in exile. Bharat does not want that, he wants Rama to return and be the King. But Rama, refuses to return and says that he will return only on the expiry of his exile. Bharat says that he would not be the king but administer the kingdom in Rama's name, and that he too, though will be in the palace, would live like an ascetic for 14 years. This is a poignant tale of brotherly love, and often cited in Hindu life. The occasion is known as 'Bharat Milap' (Bharat's meeting with Rama).

Then, there are elite Ramlilas in theatres and the common ones in parks for the Hoi Polloi, where thousands may gather to see them (no charge).
A very special Ramlila is held in Varanasi, the 230 years old, and this is what makes it special:

Ramnagar Ramlila, Varanasi
ell, the reason is, this festival is being practiced and performed in the city from around 200 years, which makes it the oldest Ram Leela performance in the whole world. During this time the whole town gets fictional names such as Ayodhya, Ashoka Vatika and Lanka, to name a few.
Another interesting thing about the performance is that the artists do not use any kind of sound technologies such as microphones or loudspeakers but they use their own voice to perform scenes of the Ram Leela. The performance is done in natural lighting as the actors like being old-school. The former Maharaja of Banaras chooses (or one can say, Okeys) actors (below 18 years) on the basis of the quality of their voice and acting skills.

Ramnagar ki Ram Leela in Varanasi is the oldest in the world! Details here

Ramnagar ki Ram Leela, touted as the oldest and the best Ram Leela in the world, takes place in Varanasi every year. This particular Ram Leela festival goes on for 31 days, and it is the time when the whole city of Varanasi turns into one big stage to narrate Rama’s tale.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[crossfire]

Abraham almost killed his son—was that abuse or not abuse?
Moses killed a person, and Krishna killed a person. Was that abuse or not abuse?
How come in these books there are so many people who killed others or almost killed others?
Was that common back then, compared to now?

Yes.

 

[River Sea]

A one sentence story. Shakes my head.



Respect has been offered. Information shared. Respect has not been returned. Goodbye. You will need to ask your questions to someone else if you have any about Judaism.

I've been learning from you all the time @dybmh

I learn from you about Shechina

 

[River Sea]

Yes.

@crossfire

I agree about abuse. I try my best to show Abraham respect, but some of the things I've heard about Abraham are extremely abusive.

If a person brought their child to a stone and was about to stab him but instead stabbed an animal, this person would be going to prison if this happened today.

But if it happens in the past, then it's no longer criminal, as it's looked upon as faith.

What is faith?

Was it faith during Exodus, yet no one explains why Israel was the place to go to?

Does Israel's land mean faith or what?

What is Israel, actually?

 

[River Sea]

Depends on what side you are.

Most interesting and in many varieties. There are generally two processions processions - one at the beginning of festivities and the other on the day when Rama's younger brother Bharat, whom his mother wanted him to be declared the king, returns from his maternal grandpa's place on hearing of his father's death in sorrow of his order to Rama to go in exile. Bharat does not want that, he wants Rama to return and be the King. But Rama, refuses to return and says that he will return only on the expiry of his exile. Bharat says that he would not be the king but administer the kingdom in Rama's name, and that he too, though will be in the palace, would live like an ascetic for 14 years. This is a poignant tale of brotherly love, and often cited in Hindu life. The occasion is known as 'Bharat Milap' (Bharat's meeting with Rama).

Then, there are elite Ramlilas in theatres and the common ones in parks for the Hoi Polloi, where thousands may gather to see them (no charge).
A very special Ramlila is held in Varanasi, the 230 years old, and this is what makes it special:

Ramnagar Ramlila, Varanasi
ell, the reason is, this festival is being practiced and performed in the city from around 200 years, which makes it the oldest Ram Leela performance in the whole world. During this time the whole town gets fictional names such as Ayodhya, Ashoka Vatika and Lanka, to name a few.
Another interesting thing about the performance is that the artists do not use any kind of sound technologies such as microphones or loudspeakers but they use their own voice to perform scenes of the Ram Leela. The performance is done in natural lighting as the actors like being old-school. The former Maharaja of Banaras chooses (or one can say, Okeys) actors (below 18 years) on the basis of the quality of their voice and acting skills.

Ramnagar ki Ram Leela in Varanasi is the oldest in the world! Details here

Ramnagar ki Ram Leela, touted as the oldest and the best Ram Leela in the world, takes place in Varanasi every year. This particular Ram Leela festival goes on for 31 days, and it is the time when the whole city of Varanasi turns into one big stage to narrate Rama’s tale.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Wow, @Aupmanyav
Thank you for explaining, as now I understand what I saw from the video that Bhanesh captured.

It appears the hope was for Rama to be king.

Bharat says that he would not be the king but administer the kingdom in Rama's name

So if I understand correctly, if Bharat did become king, would that be a threat to Rama?

Is Bharat being administered in Rama's name, showing love for Rama to be king? But what is exile?

Here's what I notice: Either there's love amongst kings, and then later that king is highly looked up to. Or there's fear and the cause of infighting.

So Rama must have been of love, and so the ones around him wanted Rama to be king, so there was no infighting then.

Krishna was that way too, was he?

However, during the Krishna era, it seems the infighting happened because of Jarasandha and Kamsa.

However, I'm not sure what kings during Rama time would be infighting.

I understand I went beyond the story

 

[Sargonski]

That spelling sem E tic is not a word.

What is the literal meaning of Semitic?


The philological term 'Semitic' referred to a family of languages originating in the Middle East whose descendant languages today are spoken by millions of people mostly across Western Asia and North Africa.


I had no idea what is meant in the conversation. You are using that as some kind of catch all. That time frame only has references in biblical documents. IN archaeological works, the egyptian controlled that area from about 1900 bce and confirmed beyond the time of the Amarna tablets (archaeological) evidence.

Bible is not evidence or reference of historical accounts. Bible is religious opinion.

What a goofy gimbal --- Typo Nazism ? really .. is that the best you can come up with for an argument. we all know Semitic is a family of languages .. but, it has also been used as an Idenfier of a group ... who share that common language .. like The French .. who speak french .. except unlike the French who are not so much related genetically . says the fellow who pretends to always get 100% on the spelling Bee .. but is a loser at everything else - The Semites-- people of Sumer - what when in and what came out -- is Trademark DNA -- becoming more similar with time .. such that they can tell you if you have "Semite" Genes == DNA from these Semetic speaking peoples .. from Akkadians on down the first world empire of Sargon in 2300 BC --- and a people who's empire spans another 1800 years .. in one form or another .. the Babylonians and Assyrians taking turns .. spreading there seed throughout the near east. and beyond. ... Typo Nazi .. what a . @#$

 

[River Sea]

What promised land? The New Kingdom of EGYPT is what the fools consider a promised land, that land is what ahkenatan heading too but stayed in the desert and opened up Amarna.

I looked up words Ahkenatan and Amarna

First these two words aren't in the book common Prophets

Online I saw
Akhenaten - Wikipedia

Akhenaten - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Akhenaten , also spelled Akhenaton or Echnaton (Ancient Egyptian: ꜣḫ-n-jtn ʾŪḫə-nə-yātəy, pronounced [ˈʔuːχəʔ nə ˈjaːtəj], meaning "Effective for the Aten"), was an ancient Egyptian pharaoh reigning c. 1353–1336 or 1351–1334 BC, the tenth ruler of the Eighteenth Dynasty. Before the fifth year of his reign,

Wikipedia

Amarna - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Amarna - Wikipedia
WebAmarna (/ ə ˈ m ɑːr n ə /; Arabic: العمارنة, romanized: al-ʿAmārna) is an extensive Egyptian archaeological site containing the remains of what was the capital city of the late …

I see the word Eighteenth Dynasty

Let me look up book Five Views on the Exodus By Mark D. Jansen

44 results for Eighteenth Dynasty

I'll just share this for now
Page 18 says
notable pharaohs, and scholars continue to debate the chronological particulars. Specifically, the Eighteenth Dynasty (early-date Exodus contains a discrepancy of roughly twenty years... I will not go further in book however -

What is discrepancy, I'll need to look up that word, and early date Exodus

My writing now
Exodus: Chronological The Thirteenth or Fifteenth Century

Early date of Exodus would be thirteenth.

According to Dr. Dave A. Falk, one has to choose which verse.
Exodus 1:11 is for the Thirteenth Century.
1 Kings 6:1 is for the fifteenth century.

Dr. Dave A. Falk claims the thirteenth century for Exodus and chose verse Exodus 1:11 and not 1 Kings 6:1

Exodus 1:11 says
So they put slave masters over them to oppress them with forced labor, and they built Pithom and Rameses as store cities for Pharaoh

1 Kings 6:1
Solomon Builds the Temple
1 In the four hundred and eightieth a year after the Israelites came out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the Lord.

Because @Bharat Jhunjhunwala claims, Moses born 1525 BC and left Indus Valley 1445 BC at the age of 80

Would that mean @Bharat Jhunjhunwala claims the fifteenth century based on 1 King 6:1? I think so, because 1 King 6:1 would be later after Moses Krishna left and all that happened after wards.

I struggle to read five views. Scroll down past screenshot

Scott Stripling confused me so much. And he's in this book five views. One of the reasons I couldn't finish the book.

Later, I saw sadness on Dr. Dave A. Falk's face, and I screen-shot it. He was so sad when he saw this. Or that's how I picture this when reading his face. I'll need to find the YouTube video, but for now, I'll show you the screen shot. When I saw his face, I could see the extreme concern; Dr. Dave A. Falk was waiting to see this finding from Scott Stripling, and yet the disappointment on Dr. Falk's face. I watched this. I still don't fully understand this curse tablet.

 

[Bthoth]

What a goofy gimbal --- Typo Nazism ? really .. is that the best you can come up with for an argument. we all know Semitic is a family of languages .. but, it has also been used as an Idenfier of a group .

Just because some enjoy the separation does not mean all do nor should

.. who share that common language .. like The French .. who speak french .. except unlike the French who are not so much related genetically . says the fellow who pretends to always get 100% on the spelling Bee .. but is a loser at everything else - The Semites-- people of Sumer -

What about the shem (biblical)? Point is i focus on level benchmarks

what when in and what came out -- is Trademark DNA

No idea what trademark dna is. I comprehend that combining enables better ......... immunity and capability

-- becoming more similar with time .. such that they can tell you if you have "Semite" Genes == DNA from these Semetic speaking peoples .

Languages enable better comprehension but inbreeding does more damage

. from Akkadians on down the first world empire of Sargon in 2300 BC --- and a people who's empire spans another 1800 years .. in one form or another .. the Babylonians and Assyrians taking turns .. spreading there seed throughout the near east. and beyond.

and then ghanghis enabled the greatest diversity and most

... Typo Nazi .. what a . @#$

one of the same. trying to suggest being 'chosen'