I Did not know that krishna was ever a person that walked around among people.
People that live under royalty (king, queens and quillotines) are oppressed
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Yadavas Hebrews farmers. How come Jews thought Hebrews were slaves?
People that live under royalty (king, queens and quillotines) are oppressed
River Sea
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That's a huge tomb
That must echo in there when singing and speaking.
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
Mudbricks use 1% straw.
I wonder why they wanted to make sure this was recorded in a tomb about making mudbricks, but they couldn't make burnt-bake bricks because there was not enough straw due to stones all over KMT, but that stone was used to make that tomb. There's no tomb like this in the Indus Valley, is there? Not enough stone to make a tomb like this in Indus Valley because they would have made a tomb from burnt bake bricks in Indus Valley compared to the tomb in KMT using stones.
Online it explains that Rekhmire was an ancient Egyptian 18 dynasty who served as "Governor of the Town" during the reigns of Thutmosis III and Amenhotep II, circa 1400 bc. He was the nephew of Vizier User at the time of the fifth year of Queen Hatshepsut's reign.
@Bthoth Were people oppressed under Queen Hatshepsut's reign, or what are your thoughts about Queen Hatshepsut compared to King Krishna? If you don't think King Krishna ever existed, do you think Queen Hatshepsut ever existed?
@Bthoth So as you think Krishna wasn't a person, what about Queen Hatshepsut? Was she ever a person who walked around among people?
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No idea. I have no idea what tangent that you are trying to convey. Queen hatshepsut and king krishna...........no idea. Was she blue too?
River Sea
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@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
I had Canaan in the wrong location (Israel) and learned from you that Canaan was located in Ghuram (India). Were the Canaanites living in Ghuram (India)? or somewhere else? If the Canaanites lived in Ghuram, Moses-Krishna didn't go against the Canaanites in Ghuram, correct? Where to what enemies then did Moses-Krishna go against using exclusions?
Because it's the Yadavas who were the first people arriving in that location that they call Israel now, and then I realized this, there are zero words about Canaanites in your book. Where were the Canaanites?
I thought you explained that the Yadavas were the first tribal people to leave Indus Valley, and if so, they'd arrive in this new location that's now Israel. How is it that the Yadavas ran into the Canaanites?
Were the Yadavas the first people to leave Indus Valley, or were there other tribes that left Indus Valley before the Yadavas, and these people became the Canaanites in that location they call Israel, and the Yadavas then later ran into the Canaanites?
The vizier is second in line to Pharoah, and oversees building projects and production, so showing him overseeing the making of mudbrick as one of the many activities he oversees makes sense.
Hatshepsut was a good ruler. She had a great vizier (see Rekhmire's uncle User above.) She have many great temples built. If she would have been a man she would have been called great.
Her mummy was found, so she walked among us once.
Egyptian Mummy Identified as Legendary Hatshepsut
River Sea
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@Bharat Jhunjhunwala I found out that the word Pharaoh means great house. The pharaoh made laws, waged war, collected taxes, and oversaw all the land
So far, I haven't found out if Sargon led the Exodus or killed a mistrite and fled. I don't know about confronting (Pharaoh). I don't know yet if there's any plague.
The Canaanite Gods
Earth's ancient history from the earliest times untill 1000 BC, Gods of Sumer, Akkad, Babylonia,, Nibiru
- Magnus Magnusson, BC - The Archaeology of the Bible Lands
'Amongst the hundreds of place names in the commercial and diplomatic texts, of special interest to Biblical scholars are references to places and vassal cities in Palestine like Hazor, Gaza, Lachish, Megiddo, Akko, Sinai, and even Jerusalem itself (Urusalima).
Note: Here we can find proof that Jerusalem was originally not a Jewish city and already existed for about 700 years before David conquered the city about 1050 BC.---
'But perhaps the most intriguing names are those personal names which also appear in the Bible; names from the 'Patriarchal Age' like Ab-ra-mu (Abraham), E-sa-um (Esau), Ish-ma-ilu (Ishmael), even Is-ra-ilu (Israel), and from later periods, names like Da-'u'dum (David) and Sa-'u-lum (Saul).The most tantalizing adumbration is the name of Ebrum (Biblical Eber), third and greatest of the six kings of the Ebla dynasty between 2400 and 2250 BC. He seems to have been placed on the throne of Ebla by Sargon the Great of Akkad after a punitive expedition in which Ebla was subjugated.But after Sargon died (c.2310 BC), Ebrum turned the tables on Akkad and reduced its cities to vassalage in turn. It was not until 2250 that Sargon's grandson, Narum-Sin of Akkad, was able to throw off the yoke of Ebla by conquering the city and putting it to the torch.'
'It may be pure coincidence that this powerful king of Ebla, King Ebrum, should have had the same name as Eber, from whom the Hebrews traced their descent....(coincidentally, Arab historians have traditionally dated Abraham to c.2300 BC).'
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Ghuram
Ghuram is a village in the Patiala district of Punjab, India. Ghuram. ਘੜਾਮ. Kuhram. Village. Ghuram is located in Punjab. Ghuram.
There is no description of Yadavas or anything resembling Canaan in the description. Why Ghuram, why not Kanpur in Uttar Pradesh?
Jhunjhunwala does not discuss history, he creates it.
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River Sea
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@crossfire This is why I asked @Bthoth if people under Queen Hatshepsut reigned were oppressed, because @Bthoth claims people are oppressed when living under royalty kings and queens. However, according to you, @crossfire Queen Hatshepsut was a good ruler, so people didn't feel oppressed then. However, Queen Hatshepsut couldn't show her being female to show authority, so did Queen Hatshepsut feel oppressed about this?
@crossfire So if Hatshepsut had been a man, she would have been called great. I saw on the website you shared how she sought to appear like a man so she could show authority.
The website you shared says:
Hatshepsut is probably best known for her habit of wearing men's clothes, sometimes with a ceremonial beard (to emphasize her authority, some Egyptologists say), but she was also a skillful ruler under whom the Egyptian empire expanded and erected numerous monuments.
Her mummy was found, so she walked among us once.
Egyptian Mummy Identified as Legendary Hatshepsut
www.smithsonianmag.com
Queen Harshepsut............. female ruler. Rather than pharaoh (living god)
Now I see where you got the terminology.
I agree
River Sea
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Ghuram
Ghuram is a village in the Patiala district of Punjab, India. Ghuram. ਘੜਾਮ. Kuhram. Village. Ghuram is located in Punjab. Ghuram.
There is no description of Yadavas or anything resembling Canaan in the description. Why Ghuram, why not Kanpur in Uttar Pradesh?
Jhunjhunwala does not discuss history, he creates it.
Added edit. I got an answer in email from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala - however I'll keep rest of my message here as well.
Here's @Bharat Jhunjhunwala answer
"The Canaanites were originally located at ghuram. When Hebrews reached israel they named the area Canaan so that they could claim divine sanction to occupy and kill the inhabitants."
And reading below is my original message
I see @Bharat Jhunjhunwala
as a researcher who discovered evidence and was willing to share it
It is much easier for me to find information on the Philistines in his book than it is to obtain information about the Canaanites. I hope @Bharat Jhunjhunwala will help me here in this thread about the Canaanites, especially when I mistakenly thought Canaan was located in Israel when Canaan is located in Ghuram. , @Aupmanyav I understand the Yadavas were further south; however, the Yadavas were traveling, and I'm confused about when and where the Yadavas ran into the Canaanites.
I'm going through his book again; maybe further I'll find more about the Canaanites; however, I couldn't find the word Canaanites in his book. Here are two places from his book that show how easy it is for me to learn about the Philistines compared to the Canaanites.
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River Sea
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@Bthoth not sure if anyone color Queen Hatshepsut blue however, @Bthoth look what I found blue skin Osiris at video time 2:41
See screenshot and below screenshot you can click on video and it'll take you where you can see blue Osiris.
I haven't watched all the video yet, but I had to show you this when I saw blue skin Osiris.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Our esteemed Research Scholar, Dr. Jhunjhunwala, needs to improve his text in the book, in the next edition. Rivers should be mentioned as 'it' and not 'she'. I quote:
"She flowed into the Rann of Kutch earlier, though at present she flows directly into the Arabian near Karachi in Pakistan."
Assyria: Banas basin. Why not Assam in India?
Cannan: Punjab. Why not Cannanore in Kerala?
Havilah: Pushkar. Why not Haldwani in Uttar Pradesh?
Misraim: Chanhudaro. Why not Mysuru in Karnataka?
Philistine: Mohenjodaro. Why not Phulpur in Uttar Pradesh?
It is a book written by a smart businessman for gullible people.
FYI, Bharat hails from Jhunjhunu in Rajasthan, a place famous for its millionaires. So, Bharat wants to make his billions (millions have no value in today's India) through this book.
"JHUNJHUNU : It has produced some of the biggest names in Indian industry. From steel king L N Mittal and G D Birla to Ajay Piramal and Jamnalal Bajaj, all of them trace their roots to Rajasthan’s semi-arid Shekhawati region."
Cradle of industrialists cries for industries, jobs and development
JHUNJHUNU : It has produced some of the biggest names in Indian industry. From steel king L N Mittal and G D Birla to Ajay Piramal and Jamnalal Bajaj, all of th
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The levant was egypts New Kingdom.... aka promised land.
During the time period claimed to be an exodus of torah/bible, the location was egyptian vassal.
I see the exodus as the emancipation from the central authority of egyptian religion to monotheism. In which, the people could learn how to be good without submission to a man-god to be their pinnacle of capabilities.
"New Kingdom" refers to the time period of the 18th, 19th, and 20th Dynasties. (Not to the levant.)
River Sea
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The New Kingdom, also referred to as the Egyptian Empire, was the ancient Egyptian nation between the 16th century BC and the 11th century BC. This period of ancient Egyptian history covers the Eighteenth, Nineteenth, and Twentieth Dynasties.
Rabbinical Judaism calculated a lifespan of Moses corresponding to 1391–1271 BCE; Jerome suggested 1592 BCE, and James Ussher suggested 1571 BCE as his birth year
All periods that moses lived in the region and exodus.
Biblical story telling is not historical record. The levant was egypt.
An exodus from egypt, to egypts New Kingdom is proof positive of someone was not telling the story correctly. I will doubt the bible and the variety of interpretations before egyptian records and the amarna tablets, as they are in stone.
Heck, circumcision, commandments, kosher eating and priority of lineage as 'chosen ones' are all egyptian culture well before torah was even written.
River Sea
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@Bharat Jhunjhunwala What's this about? There's no evidence that Moses or the Hebrews ever lived in Egypt. Can you explain more about this?
Here's a video of the Taftan volcano, which you mentioned in your post about Sinai.