IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Oh yes, Jesus being the Messiah is very much open for debate..
IndigoChild5559 I have to ask... Jesus being the "Messiah" is not considered open for debate!?
Matthew 1:1 The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah
This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:
AND... Jesus being the New Passover Lamb is not considered open for debate!?
Luke 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
Jesus' resurrection is not considered open for debate!?
John 20:26
A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!”
27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
However, your New Testament is not authoritative for me. It is not the word of God and is filled with errors and false teachings. It cannot be trusted. When it quotes from the Tanakh, it quotes it out of context, mistranslates it, and even makes up quotes that don't exist. We could start a whole sub-thread just on that. What I'm trying to say is that the quotes you gave above don't really do anything for me--you have wasted your breath. You need to quote from the Tanakh or use reasoning.
I on the other hand, have the following argument. Jesus is not the messiah because quite frankly he did not fulfill all the messianic prophecies. For example, the messiah will:
1. usher in an era of worldwide peace
2. bring all the Jews back to the promised land
3. will rule from Jerusalem
I am not moved by Christian claims that he will fulfill the rest when he comes back again. *I* could say, "Hey I'm the messiah. I'll fulfill the prophecies next time around." See what I'm saying? So don't even bother with that line of reasoning.