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I’m not Christian and no one’s complaining nor am I calling anyone delusional
You did say Christians deny and/or lie about their beliefs, which I think is worthy of complaint.
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I’m not Christian and no one’s complaining nor am I calling anyone delusional
May I ask you why you are not one? Not trying to out you or anything, just trying to understand?I’m not Christian and no one’s complaining nor am I calling anyone delusional
I don’t think it’s the truthMay I ask you why you are not one? Not trying to out you or anything, just trying to understand?
I hear you and see. Are you conflicted regarding whether or not Jesus came and died, or do you not believe the Bible to be true?I don’t think it’s the truth
I hear you and see. Are you conflicted regarding whether or not Jesus came and died, or do you not believe the Bible to be true?
I believe all of existence rises and falls with the birth and death of one man, in an endless cycle, who is living on earth right now.I hear you and see. Are you conflicted regarding whether or not Jesus came and died, or do you not believe the Bible to be true?
If you are going to accuse anyone of deliberately deceiving, you had better have ample evidence of their deceit, such as catching them when they think they are alone and they admit to the opposite.I think Christians secretly think Jesus is alive in the flesh on earth at this very moment, but don’t admit it.
Not accusing anyone nor am I “abusing” anyone. I’m stating what I think in general about a large group. It’s all good if you believe Jesus rose 2000 yrs ago. I’m cool with it.If you are going to accuse anyone of deliberately deceiving, you had better have ample evidence of their deceit, such as catching them when they think they are alone and they admit to the opposite.
You can't pretend that you read their minds. When anyone says, "You don't REALLY think/feel/believe that, you really think/feel/believe this other thing," that's abusive. In fact there is a very nasty, nasty slang term that labels this, but TOS prevent me from stating it.
Do you mind if we continue this conversation, or would you just like to keep it to the discussion of the thread? I am just interested in learning what you think about and seeing how my views compare to yours.I believe all of existence rises and falls with the birth and death of one man, in an endless cycle, who is living on earth right now.
In fact there is a very nasty, nasty slang term that labels this, but TOS prevent me from stating it.
It’s fineDo you mind if we continue this conversation, or would you just like to keep it to the discussion of the thread? I am just interested in learning what you think about and seeing how my views compare to yours.
Wonderful. Would you say that you believe in a God, or maybe see the need for one because of the Creation around us?It’s fine
It’s fine
What is so bad about having dialogues and trying to understand another's viewpoint? We must try to understand one another if we are ever going to see why one believes what he or she does.I think you should reconsider, since the both of you will get along like a house on fire.
What is so bad about having dialogues and trying to understand another's viewpoint? We must try to understand one another if we are ever going to see why one believes what he or she does.
It's really no different than Christians who dismiss us apostates and wave away what we went through. They don't really want to hear us out and they insist we were never really true Christians to begin with and we just wanted to sin. So if we suffered it doesn't matter. It could never be harmful doctrine, it's fake Christians and bad understandings of the Bible.Not accusing anyone nor am I “abusing” anyone. I’m stating what I think in general about a large group. It’s all good if you believe Jesus rose 2000 yrs ago. I’m cool with it.
My God is the infinite universe from which all wisdom flows and all things exist and is more important than anything.Wonderful. Would you say that you believe in a God, or maybe see the need for one because of the Creation around us?
I disagree.It's really no different than Christians who dismiss us apostates and wave away what we went through. They don't really want to hear us out and they insist we were never really true Christians to begin with and we just wanted to sin. So if we suffered it doesn't matter. It could never be harmful doctrine, it's fake Christians and bad understandings of the Bible.
You're doing that same "this is what they really believe" thing and setting yourself up to wave away objections.
It's really no different than Christians who dismiss us apostates and wave away what we went through. They don't really want to hear us out and they insist we were never really true Christians to begin with and we just wanted to sin.
So if we suffered it doesn't matter.
It could never be harmful doctrine, it's fake Christians and bad understandings of the Bible.
You absolutely did accuse and were abusive. You said, and I quote, "Not accusing anyone nor am I “abusing” anyone.
I think Christians secretly think Jesus is alive in the flesh on earth at this very moment, but don’t admit it.
And you have not a shred of evidence that what you are saying about them is true. Heck, I'm not even a Christian, and *I* am offended by this.I’m stating what I think in general about a large group.
It's also good if you don't believe Jesus rose from the dead 2000 years ago. I'm cool with that.It’s all good if you believe Jesus rose 2000 yrs ago. I’m cool with it.