Your saved as soon as you accept jesus.

[Sha'irullah]

You do have, worship, and pray to a god indeed.
How can you pray to satan and claim to be an athiest?

Bless this sinner O Satan!

 

[Sha'irullah]

You have proven that you are a worker for Satan.

So then, why are you so upset with me?

lol, You have to be a troll. You are going straight to my ignore list but have fun

 

[Ouroboros]

You do have, worship, and pray to a god indeed.
How can you pray to satan and claim to be an athiest?

He was being facetious. It's a way of trying to wake up someone for showing how they sound, but with different words. It doesn't mean that he literally or really are praying to Satan.

 

[Draka]

Ugh, a spiritual person and a fundie arguing. I guess I am the only person who sees the absurdity in all of this. Both on the same coin.

How in the world are we on the same coin? I don't tell people what I believe and that they should believe it as well (I rarely even say what I believe at all as it isn't really anyone's business). I don't believe my beliefs to be any better or more correct than anyone else's (for none can be truly factually proven one way or another). I have no issue with others believing or not believing whatever it is in their minds. What I'm arguing here is the absurd stance Yes has (and so many others of his and some other faiths) that their faith is the end all be all of "truth" and everyone who doesn't believe as they do are following their religion's "bad guy".

Your statement here makes you sound as absurd and presumptuous as he does. Now that is some true absurdity.

 

[Yes]

This is what is wrong with the Christian church. It is a matter of doctrine and the Church that a person goes to and they all believe something different.
A person is obeying if they keep His words. I am repeating what has been shown and know to be true.
Do you believe in your own self or do you believe in God. Because all indications are you believe what you yourself think is correct.

When you say we are to keep Jesus' words, what do you think that means? Do you think that Jesus wants you to merely remember what he says, or to OBEY what he says?

We have to OBEY Jesus, or you are not saved.

 

[Draka]

I am telling you about my God.
You are merely a copycat.

Show where your gods say what I just said. Show where your gods speak about Jesus. Show where your gods say to obey them so that you will know their truth.

Again, you are only a copycat, just like Satan.

How am I a copycat? You mean how I showed you that your statements truly mean nothing as they could equally be sued for any deity or deity concept out there? You stamping your foot and declaring that your religion is "the truth" doesn't mean anything because any religion can do that with just as much fervor as you are doing it.

 

[Sha'irullah]

He was being facetious. It's a way of trying to wake up someone for showing how they sound, but with different words. It doesn't mean that he literally or really are praying to Satan.

You get a like for at least having an IQ over 1. I am not saying your IQ is one though Just being a little asinine today, you know how I get

 

[Yes]

How in the world are we on the same coin? I don't tell people what I believe and that they should believe it as well (I rarely even say what I believe at all as it isn't really anyone's business). I don't believe my beliefs to be any better or more correct than anyone else's (for none can be truly factually proven one way or another). I have no issue with others believing or not believing whatever it is in their minds. What I'm arguing here is the absurd stance Yes has (and so many others of his and some other faiths) that their faith is the end all be all of "truth" and everyone who doesn't believe as they do are following their religion's "bad guy".

Your statement here makes you sound as absurd and presumptuous as he does. Now that is some true absurdity.

Why do you go against me?
I tell you that if you want to know if what Jesus says is true or not, then you have to do what he says.

You keep speaking about against Jesus, yet you do not believe that what he says is true---because you have not obeyed him.

You only have worthless opinions.

You speak against Jesus because you are ensnared by the devil to do his work. The devil's work is that you speak against Jesus.

 

[Ouroboros]

I love watching/hearing when Christians disagree with each other over interpretations of the Bible. Over basic beliefs. This is exactly why there are so many denominations of Christianity. Even Christians can't agree on what the Bible really means and yet they seemed so surprised that there are people that don't believe in it. You guys can't even figure out amongst you what it is you are supposed to believe within it, why on Earth wouldn't others have issues with it? You can't even agree on what it is that we are supposed to believe because you can't agree on what to believe. Pretty much nearly every passage of that book can be interpreted in a different way and each denomination has its own way of looking at it and each thinks they are right and none will admit that it is a solely "believe what makes sense to you" issue, not a "this is the Word of God" issue. That's quite obvious because no one can really agree what actually is the "Word of God".

That is a huge issue indeed.

And also, Jesus said that the world would know that he and the disciples where sent by God through their unity. But with the Christian church over the world is very diverse and not very unified, it's hard to see God's work in them.

 

[Ouroboros]

You get a like for at least having an IQ over 1. I am not saying your IQ is one though Just being a little asinine today, you know how I get

I'm glad that I have at least one. Some people come here with less. (And I don't mean you. )

 

[JayJayDee]

Seek God and you will find Him, if you search for Him with all your heart

We search for God by getting Jesus' teachings.

We find by obeying Jesus ' teachings.

Obey Jesus' teachings, and then you can know the truth.

Do you want scripture references?

My questions were simple, Yes.....they require simple answers.

What is God's kingdom?

How does it "come"

What will it do for suffering humanity that would be "good news" for them?

Surely you can see that your response did not answer these in any way?

 

[Sha'irullah]

How in the world are we on the same coin? I don't tell people what I believe and that they should believe it as well (I rarely even say what I believe at all as it isn't really anyone's business). I don't believe my beliefs to be any better or more correct than anyone else's (for none can be truly factually proven one way or another). I have no issue with others believing or not believing whatever it is in their minds. What I'm arguing here is the absurd stance Yes has (and so many others of his and some other faiths) that their faith is the end all be all of "truth" and everyone who doesn't believe as they do are following their religion's "bad guy".

Your statement here makes you sound as absurd and presumptuous as he does. Now that is some true absurdity.

Both of you are in the same boat. Superstitious babbling and talking of "knowing gods."
Christian along with people who profess to be spiritual are just opposing teams of the same family, one is dogmatic nonsense and the other liberal nonsense. It is profoundly hilarious watch you fight it out

 

[Ouroboros]

Most of the major religions are like that.

Hinduism and Buddhism have many different variations too. Judaism doesn't seem to have too many though, neither does Islam (only 3 or 4?). Christianity seems to have the most. It all really started with Martin Luther. Before that, most heretics were executed, so it was simple to keep the faith in check and in line.

 

[Draka]

Why do you go against me?
I tell you that if you want to know if what Jesus says is true or not, then you have to do what he says.

You keep speaking about against Jesus, yet you do not believe that what he says is true---because you have not obeyed him.

You only have worthless opinions.

You speak against Jesus because you are ensnared by the devil to do his work. The devil's work is that you speak against Jesus.

Prove to me, without the bible, that Jesus even really existed AND was a direct son of a deity (of course also proving that there not only is a deity but that the one you believe in is that deity) and then perhaps you can have some claim to work with in the first place.

One, I haven't "spoken against Jesus", I haven't really even made any comment about Jesus (were I even to believe in that particular mythological pantheon at all), your whole trip out upon me was that I said that the character of Satan didn't exist and that the Abrahamic god already covered all the bad stuff and so the need for "Satan" was moot. Merely a scapegoat.

 

[Draka]

Both of you are in the same boat. Superstitious babbling and talking of "knowing gods."
Christian along with people who profess to be spiritual are just opposing teams of the same family, one is dogmatic nonsense and the other liberal nonsense. It is profoundly hilarious watch you fight it out

As it is profoundly hilarious to watch you make foundless erroneous assumptions.

 

[Sha'irullah]

As it is profoundly hilarious to watch you make foundless erroneous assumptions.

Do I hear the sound of the world's smallest violin

 

[Theodore A. Jones]

People think there is some process to go through, but it isn't the case. All one has to do is accept Jesus, and their saved. No magic ceremonies required.

Thanks

"Those who accepted His message were baptized and about three thousand were added to their number that day." Acts 2:41
Ain't there some kinda small narrow gate you've gotta have the faith to use, but very few ever find it?
BTW "their" in your OP's last line needs to be they're the contraction of "they are".

 

[Sha'irullah]

Hail Satan guys and peace out

 

[Draka]

Do I hear the sound of the world's smallest violin

Uh no, you hear laughter. It is with some head shaking too, but you can't hear that.

 

[Theodore A. Jones]

well everytime christians say this they mean you must accept mainstream pauline christianity & you are saved.
christians tell me i dont really believe in jesus because i dont believe in jesus the way paul tells us to.

Well what is the way you believe in Jesus?