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Your saved as soon as you accept jesus.

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Theodore A. Jones

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AllanV said:
The heart needs a transformation with a renewal of the mind. It becomes a matter of understanding what mind is and how it works. If this was easy to renew everyone would do it. But people are unable to let their old mind go.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

If a contrite and broken heart and spirit are found then this is the nature of Jesus and God will energize the Love in it.
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The Hammer

The Hammer

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What exactly am I being "saved" from by accepting Jesus. And does it have to be Jesus? OR can I accept one of his many other cultural versions that have been iterated throughout time, like Zoroaster, or Muhammad?

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Theodore A. Jones

Active Member
The Hammer said:
No need for me too, I am sticking to the rules of the forum. This is in GRD, therefore I am allowed to input my personal opinions. You want this to be Christian only, then place it under same-faith debate or the Christian DIR :)
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You said "I have no need to be saved" right? Check out.
 
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Desert Snake

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The Hammer said:
What exactly am I being "saved" from by accepting Jesus. And does it have to be Jesus? OR can I accept one of his many other cultural versions that have been iterated throughout time, like Zoroaster, or Muhammad?

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I never stated you would be saved 'from' something. I just said saved. If you don't feel the need to be saved, or want to be saved. Great. Whatever.
Zoroaster? who knows. Mohammad? Totally different from Jesus. In fact both Zoroaster and mohammad are totally different ideas than Jesus.
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

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Theodore A. Jones said:
You will. "Why in the hell didn't believe what that man said to me.?" Will be your endless question.
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Ok, well, if you didn't want to actually have a conversation, or answer legitimate questions, why the heck would you quote my post from over a week ago, and pull me into this thread? To tell me to essentially "bug off"... That is very Christian of you. And what I have come to expect. It's no wonder I walked away from the religion, when it is filled with passive aggressive people, who want to micromanage everyone else's lives.
 
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Desert Snake

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The Hammer said:
What exactly am I being "saved" from by accepting Jesus. And does it have to be Jesus? OR can I accept one of his many other cultural versions that have been iterated throughout time, like Zoroaster, or Muhammad?

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Completely different religions. That actually doesn't even make sense.
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

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disciple said:
I never stated you would be saved 'from' something. I just said saved. If you don't feel the need to be saved, or want to be saved. Great. Whatever.
Zoroaster? who knows. Mohammad? Totally different from Jesus. In fact both Zoroaster and mohammad are totally different ideas than Jesus.
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What about Krishna or Horus? I have trouble seeing just Jesus as the only savior because there are multiple saviors from multiple religions and all of them share very similar qualities, attitudes, temperaments and lives. Some even were persecuted and died for others.

EDIT: What I am getting at is this: What makes Jesus the one and only path up the mountain?
 
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Desert Snake

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The Hammer said:
What about Krishna or Horus? I have trouble seeing just Jesus as the only savior because there are multiple saviors from multiple religions and all of them share very similar qualities, attitudes, temperaments and lives. Some even were persecuted and died for others.

EDIT: What I am getting at is this: What makes Jesus the one and only path up the mountain?
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Where did I say that? Why would I say that? What are you talking about?
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

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disciple said:
Where did I say that? Why would I say that? What are you talking about?
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Sorry someone pulled me back into this debate after not being in it for a week, and missing 20 pages of it. So I am going purely off of what the OP stated.
 
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Desert Snake

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The Hammer said:
You didn't use that word. But savior = one who saves. And you said accept Jesus and be saved. Therefore Savior = Jesus
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Not really. Saviour is like a one way street as well. Saved through Jesus isn't just a matter of calling upon the '''saviour''' to save you, it's a commitment. That's what people have been saying throughout this thread and even griping about because I don't explicitly state that in the OP.
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

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disciple said:
Not really. Saviour is like a one way street as well. Saved through Jesus isn't just a matter of calling upon the '''saviour''' to save you, it's a commitment. That's what people have been saying throughout this thread and even griping about because I don't explicitly state that in the OP.
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I get that accepting Jesus is a way of life and a daily thing. But my questions above still stand. Why only Jesus? I get it that you are Christian, so that is your way. But why that way?

And I was fine with leaving well enough alone, but @Theodore A. Jones quoted me, so I am back.
 
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