ZIONIST Grip on American Films

[kai]

American 'savages'? Blacks?

Take a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom#Pogroms_against_Jews

 

[Caladan]

I haven't been in here in awhile, but I just wanted to kinda point this out in the open. It is very obvious to me that Christians persecute anyone who isn't Christian. European Jews were no exception to this, and probably got the worst side of it for many centuries. Though, the majority of my argument earlier in this thread is that the Christian persecution does not justify Jewish persecution of Arabs,

We have been discussing the background for the persecution of Jews in European history. a topic which was exclusive from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and of 'Jewish persecution of Arabs'.

especially since Christian's are the one who allotted the terroritory in the firsts place. I find it hard to believe that the Christian sect, after centuries of persecuting Jews, created Israel for the good of the Jews, which no actual self interest advocated in the move. Christian nations use Israel as a foot hold in the Middle East.

Of course, if you really believe that the United Nations General Assembly is a Christian body. under the General Assembly the Partition Plan for a Jewish state and an Arab state was to take place.

 

[Gabethewiking]

Bring it on!!


:biglaugh:


I thank you for the laugh.

Hopefully you are not trying to foist the mythology of the Bible as your "proof".
BUt it was good for a laugh.

Now back to reality.....
So, what Jewish group(s) do you present to support your claim?

That the Bible is not true and the Biblical myths have no part of factual events are irrelevant, according to Christian History the Jewish people are responsible for the Death of Jesus Christ, Saviour of Man.

The Western World (that is Us) are Christian with a Christian History, the European (and North American) Cultures are based on Christian History and its events, even today Jesus is seen as a very real person even to educated people, you have no right to ignore this fact and understand that the according to the Bible, which is half Torah (edited), the Jewish Bible, the Jews are responsible.

 

[Gabethewiking]

Y'see, it's stuff like this which makes me angry at the Treaty of Versailles, which made Germany the blame of WW1, and the war reparations!

After WW1, Germany's currency hyper-inflated to the point where you had million-mark notes, and to make things worse, they had to pay back ridiculous and unfair amounts of money to the victors, then French and Belgian troops occupied the Ruhr etc.

Perhaps (maybe, I dunno) if the victors of WW1 had been more realistic and sympathetic in our treatment of Germany, then maybe the people would not have radicalized and Hitler wouldn't have rose to power. Again, I'm not a historian but the more I look at it, the more avoidable a lot of the problems seemed to be. Hell even WW1 should never have happened - but anyways, this is derailing a little so I'll stop.

But yeah, thanks for answering my question, Caladan.

This is what I tried to explain to Caladan, We brought this on ourselfs, this is not some German "problem", we caused the events to happen because of our own greedish and arrogant behaviour, Caladan wish do ignore this part and blame it to sole (99%) Jewish "hatred" rather then understanding that they where just used as political scapegoats as we in America have today for Atheist, Communist, None-American or Homosexuals (if Republican Party for example) sputing hatred just a in the 30s.

 

[Caladan]

This is what I tried to explain to Caladan, We brought this on ourselfs, this is not some German "problem", we caused the events to happen because of our own greedish and arrogant behaviour, Caladan wish do ignore this part and blame it to sole (99%) Jewish "hatred" rather then understanding that they where just used as political scapegoats as we in America have today for Atheist, Communist, None-American or Homosexuals (if Republican Party for example) sputing hatred just a in the 30s.

Nice to see you put words into my mouth. what I did was answer a question about the persecution of Jews in European history. I have not defined an isolated 'German problem'. I have also listed numerous factors in the hatred and persecution and I have specifically said that Jews were used as scapegoats in political calamities and economic problems.

 

[arimoff]

That the Bible is not true and the Biblical myths have no part of factual events are irrelevant, according to Christian History the Jewish people are responsible for the Death of Jesus Christ, Saviour of Man.

The Western World (that is Us) are Christian with a Christian History, the European (and North American) Cultures are based on Christian History and its events, even today Jesus is seen as a very real person even to educated people, you have no right to ignore this fact and understand that the according to the Bible, which is half Torah (edited), the Jewish Bible, the Jews are responsible.

Where is the prove that Jews killed Jesus? but don't forget no matter what kind of facts you will try to use, none of them I repeat none of them can justify what was done to the Jewish people in Europe.

 

[YmirGF]

American 'savages'? Blacks?

Strangely, I don't recall First Nations people being systematically rounded up and placed in concentration camp to await their death. I suppose, if we are giddy enough we could compare "Indian" reservations to the Nazi Death camps, sans Gas Chambers, armed psychopathic guards, etc, but that would be a stretch. Ditto regarding African Americans.

Pray tell, when did either group go off and start up their own country under the auspices of the League of Nations in their widely recognized ancestral homeland?


Take your time. I'll patiently wait in rapt awe, though you will forgive me if I do not hold my breath.

 

[Gabethewiking]

Where is the prove that Jews killed Jesus? but don't forget no matter what kind of facts you will try to use, none of them I repeat none of them can justify what was done to the Jewish people in Europe.

Of course not, because Jews are special and worth more then other humans, correct?

 

[.lava]

Of course not, because Jews are special and worth more then other humans, correct?

no fair to say that. it does not really make any difference if that's what he believes. no acceptable reason could be there for killing civilians, breaking up families, taking away children from their parents, humiliation...etc it is a nightmare

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[dust1n]

Take a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom#Pogroms_against_Jews

They look rather comparable to me, the difference being that Jews have been persecuted for much longer, systematically, through more groups of people.


But thanks for the link. That was very informative.

 

[dust1n]

We have been discussing the background for the persecution of Jews in European history. a topic which was exclusive from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and of 'Jewish persecution of Arabs'.

My mistake.

Of course, if you really believe that the United Nations General Assembly is a Christian body. under the General Assembly the Partition Plan for a Jewish state and an Arab state was to take place.

Well, I was using the term 'Christian' vaguely. However, traditionally the United States, Britain, and France have been the pioneers of the United Nations, and their operations have attempted to benefit those specific economical entities at the harm of others.

 

[dust1n]

Strangely, I don't recall First Nations people being systematically rounded up and placed in concentration camp to await their death. I suppose, if we are giddy enough we could compare "Indian" reservations to the Nazi Death camps, sans Gas Chambers, armed psychopathic guards, etc, but that would be a stretch. Ditto regarding African Americans.

I have no doubt in my mind that if early America was capable, had necessary technology to have pulled out of such a thing, and secrecy to enact a sysematically exterminate Natives/Blacks, they would have more than likely attempted such a move.

 

[McBell]

That the Bible is not true and the Biblical myths have no part of factual events are irrelevant...

You should do stand up...

 

[YmirGF]

You should do stand up...

You mean he isn't already?

 

[McBell]

You mean he isn't already?

Good point.

I Meant that he should do stand up professionally.

 

[YmirGF]

Good point.

I Meant that he should do stand up professionally.

But would people pay to listen?

 

[arimoff]

Of course not, because Jews are special and worth more then other humans, correct?

:slap: get over your self.

 

[McBell]

But would people pay to listen?

Why not?

I mean people people pay to get into the Creation Museum, right?
People pay to listen to Kent Hovind, Right?

Ok, since Mr Hovind is in prison for tax evasion, his paid audience is likely much smaller now.
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[9-10ths_Penguin]

Of course not, because Jews are special and worth more then other humans, correct?

No, because things like racism and genocide cannot be justified. It's not a matter of the Jews having some special claim to not being rounded up and killed for their religious or cultural affiliation; nobody should be rounded up and killed for their religious or cultural affiliation.

You cannot justify what was done to the Jewish people in Europe because what was done to the Jewish people in Europe is unjustifiable... regardless of who it's done to.

 

[dust1n]

No, because things like racism and genocide cannot be justified. It's not a matter of the Jews having some special claim to not being rounded up and killed for their religious or cultural affiliation; nobody should be rounded up and killed for their religious or cultural affiliation.

You cannot justify what was done to the Jewish people in Europe because what was done to the Jewish people in Europe is unjustifiable... regardless of who it's done to.

And certainly this holds true for anyone who was negatively affected in the creation of Israel?