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  1. catch22

    How in the world can ANYBODY think the Jews and Christians have the same god, that Jesus is messiah?

    First, thank you for your reply. And I will read this source, thanks. Is this what is written down, though? Also, can we say there is really tense in ancient, prophetic hebrew, as we understand tense today? Or were there perfects (completed actions, or actions foreseen completed) and...
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    is Brandon of HONEY the second comming of Christ?

    No. No he is not. He's a guy who's taking pictures of people in New York city. I'm not sure why you'd make the proposition he is in any way divine, let alone the second coming of Jesus Christ.
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    How is not believing in god different than believing there is no god?

    In fairness, you should at least modify your statement to be "evidence that I'll readily accept, please." Otherwise, I'll just say read the Bible and be done with it. But you wouldn't accept it as valid historical testimony (evidence), so we'd be back to square one.
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    How is not believing in god different than believing there is no god?

    I'm not sure there is much practical difference... it might be received differently from different groups of people, but at the end of the day, both are statements of non-belief, even when phrased "I believe there is no god." The motives behind why you say either one might be interesting to...
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    Can we ignore the link between religion and religious violence?

    How many does Cephus say He is supposed to heal? What would appease Cephus?
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    The peacemakers shall becalled the sons of God.

    Don't isolate this verse unto itself. Read the pattern of the Beatitudes to understand a little better. For example, starting at verse 3, Does this mean only the poor in spirit get the kingdom of heaven? Do only the mourners get comforted? (what do they mourn?) Do only the meek inherit the...
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    How in the world can ANYBODY think the Jews and Christians have the same god, that Jesus is messiah?

    I'm not sure comma placement is going to help your case, here? Pele yôëtz ël GiBôr áviyad sar-shälôm (miracle advise god powerful everlasting ruler peace) Is a name declaration, is it not? Sorry for the hamfisted transliteration. So how can you add verbage mid-stride like that to completely...
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    How in the world can ANYBODY think the Jews and Christians have the same god, that Jesus is messiah?

    Okay, so a lot Jews are pretty adamant about the non-human God thing. That's fine. Can one of you explain Isaiah 9 to me, specifically, verse 6: "For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will be on his shoulders. He is called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God...
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    The afterlife - an argument for why the Christian God may be racist/culturalist?

    There's sufficient evidence presented by other posters to essentially strike down your entire OP. By the time I read through, I just saw misrepresentations of the Christian faith, so I addressed those.
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    The afterlife - an argument for why the Christian God may be racist/culturalist?

    Ah, a universalist. I had no idea that's what your cult preached. Yes, well, all of this is fine and dandy, but you need to keep studying your book and not cherry picking around the simple truths. It would help if you didn't use a widely recognized heretical copy of the Holy Bible, too. You...
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    Is God a Macho Entity?

    If you stem from judeo-christian nations, then yeah. But not everyone views God as male, there's plenty of goddesses in pantheons spanning multiple cultures. I think God is "macho," yes. Overcome Him? Or just overcome the notion of machismo in terms of God? The Bible demonstrates God as...
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    The Second Coming... A Mind Game?

    This guy George is smoking too much burning bush.
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    Do You Believe In Eternal Suffering?

    If this is aimed at Christianity in any way, it would be more accurate to put destruction or annihilation as an option. I mean, the one with suffering but it's not eternal is close, but not the same thing.
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    Saved to what end?

    It's great that you at least admire Christ in that way, but I think at the same time, you're missing some of His best work. Or, well, maybe the bigger picture. 41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42 saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take...
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    Who caused Satan or the devil rebel

    Eve caused Eve to rebel. Adam caused Adam to rebel. The answer for the enemy is similar, albeit spiritual beings differ from humans in ways we're not all clear on. To say God allowed it is accurate, of course, and He uses it, yes. Did He cause it to have an adversary? That, I seriously doubt.
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    Do Athiests have morals?

    Haha, re-reading it isolated like that... Maybe I coulda done better on that. :D
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    Saved to what end?

    It's illogical to you. It's real to me. I think you are born into sin. You disagree. Well, okay. My point of view is as valid as yours, whether you appreciate it or not. Neither can prove nor disprove. Surely we both didn't just realize that, eh? Many are called, few are chosen. The...
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    Saved to what end?

    You're a bit dramatic. God doesn't threaten to torture and murder you, you do it to yourself. I guess the Lord could have made you a perfect drone to worship Him, with no thought, mind, or personality. I guess He wanted more for you, so He gave you the chance to do more. Life is what life...
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    The use of money, the use of gods

    So was this about money (I think you mean currency, anyway), or God? I think, therefore, I am? Trying to convince a philosopher he's real is enough of a challenge...
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    Do Athiests have morals?

    Jesus said that if we love Him, we will keep His commandments. Someone who is proclaimed religious, be it Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc, it matters not; anyone can commit crime and have warped morality. I can say anything I want, and yet, do anything I want just as well. Atheists are...
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