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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    Your contributions to this thread are so very helpful, thank you for your well thought out points. If people want to debate another topic they can simply start another thread, and if they want to hear my ideas on the topic they can message me. But I guess you must be inexperience with how...
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    The entire point of this thread is that it is simply impossible to prove that god does not exist. And your using circular logic, if someone makes a claim it is always safe to assume it is false until evidence in given. So for the statement god exists I am simply assuming that statement is...
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    They why comment in the first place. So far your comments have contributed nothing. Also, there is no paternal or authoritative influence in this thread at all.
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    This deserves a response for the simple reason that it is clear that you missed the point. It may be true that you have long known that insignificance of the main topic of this thread but it seems you lack the interest in moving the even larger argument forward. If the average human can not...
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    Question for all. Should government be secular?

    I have a problem with leaders being religious because there are just some issues that a leader will default to his churches belief not a secular one. i.e. abortion, and stem cell research.
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    Thanks :) It is starting to seem that my experience with this argument is in minority. It was just the other day I had to explain to three people why saying you can not prove god does not exists is a useless point. No I think I see where you are coming from, but I do not want to get into...
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    Here is a page all about proving the disproofs of god incorrect. Atheists have Proven God Does Not Exist. Right? Here is another one: Can you prove God doesn't exist? - By Jim Holt - Slate Magazine My point is that I and my peers have come across a number of people who's first point out of...
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    Umm, I am not quite sure why you chose Islam, because Christians and Jews fall into the same category. Many Christians claim the bible to be evidence for the existence of Jesus and God. Just claiming something is evidence does not make it evidence. Imagine a archaeologist who finds an old...
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    Well this is confusing for a couple reasons. But yes god can prove he does exist. However if he does then then we fall into a paradox where god told us that he will not prove he exists so once he does he is no longer god.
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    Because you can not prove it does not mean science can not prove it. This is another one of the basic arguments religion uses. Basically, if something is not falsifiable then it is not able to be proven true. However if you know many things then you have to at some point have sensed them. In...
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    Well the best I can do for you is tell you that there is no way to disprove God. More or less science takes the stance that anything that is no falsifiable is a weak argument and should be altered so that it is falsifiable. Basically, something has to be falsifiable for it to be proven true...
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    You can not prove that God does not exist!!

    For atheist and theists, I have come across this argument repeatedly through my debates and I would like to clarify the most basic of arguing points. To atheists: There is no way to prove god does not exist, just no way whatsoever. I would suggest saying that they can not prove <insert...
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    That is what you said last post, which is what I was confused about... so what is it that you think science tends to avoid?
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    A little confused on what the question is?
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    The sentence on scientific evidence was another definition of evidence that I found on wikipedia. And I think you have a misconception of me, I am am atheist, there is a link to my blog in my signature. A couple of you statements make me think that you thought otherwise.
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    Umm I am arguing that it is more logical that a self claimed divine experience is more logically a false memory then reality. But that has moved a little as the debate continues. I am not quite sure what you mean by this so correct me if my response is not what you want. What I was trying to...
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    They are making huge steps but not in the way many people think they are. We are far from any industrial use for neuroscience. For example: we will not be playing video games with just our brain any time soon. Although there are games already, it is not what you think. The machine is...
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    Example: If I were placed into an electroencephalogram (EEG) and thought about having an experience with god talking to me. And someone else was placed into the EEG who believed God was talking to them the brain activity would be the same. i.e. there is no evidence to show brain activity...
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    I hate getting into the specifics of semantics of words in a context like this so please let us no dwell on this. We have been using the word "experience" in a context of an event that happen in the past that can or can not be proven by outside evidence. In his use of the experiencing...
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    Looking for arguments for the existence of God

    Thank you for the correction The original intention of the science was to show different brain activity when having a mystical experience. Hence they were trying to show the existence of spiritual state. When all they ended up finding was normal brain activity. Not to mention Neuroscience...
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