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  1. Moishe3rd

    Iran Nuclear Agreement

    Alright then. I'll ask you. What "alternatives" are worse than giving Iran a 150 billion dollars; letting Iran make and use whatever weapons and power it wants to attempt to destroy the United States and Israel; and to encourage Iran be the leading murderer in the Middle East, spreading its own...
  2. Moishe3rd

    Iran Nuclear Agreement

    Excuse me. I've always found Inigo Montoya's quote to be funny when applied to any situation. I will refrain from continuing in that vein. President Obama has proclaimed that the Alternative to the Iran Deal is War. This is untrue and it is flamboyant rhetoric for the purpose of scare...
  3. Moishe3rd

    Which belief closer to Jews (Islam or Christianity)

  4. Moishe3rd

    Which belief closer to Jews (Islam or Christianity)

    The Christian interpretation is that Jesus came to fulfill the words of the "old testament" and therefore to save all mankind, not only the Jews. The "new testament" is a record of Jesus and how his teachings are to be a light unto mankind. It's pretty much what all new religions believe -...
  5. Moishe3rd

    Which belief closer to Jews (Islam or Christianity)

    :sweatsmile: I suppose... "Literalists" reads as a bit demeaning or condescending. The overwhelming majority of Torah observant Jews ("Orthodox") are far from what you could call "literalists." There are 3,000 years of Torah and commentaries and questions of every shape and hue that define how...
  6. Moishe3rd

    Which belief closer to Jews (Islam or Christianity)

    I understand what you are trying to convey, I think. It reads as though you are kind of embarrassed that Islam basically says that the Jews altered the World of G-d for their own nefarious purposes but that Muhammad made it right again... No? Either way, as noted, both Jews and Christians...
  7. Moishe3rd

    Which belief closer to Jews (Islam or Christianity)

    "Ask any Muslim you happen to see... What's the best tuna - Chicken of the Sea!" Or something like that. It is unfortunate but, according to what Muslims base their religion upon today (which is not actually the Koran) - various hadiths and interpretations of whatever - their belief is that the...
  8. Moishe3rd

    Iran Nuclear Agreement

    Hmmm.... I have this before and... Y'all keep on using those words - "better than the alternatives." I do not think that these words mean what you think they mean.... :rolleyes: What are "The Alternatives" and Why?
  9. Moishe3rd

    Which belief closer to Jews (Islam or Christianity)

    It depends. A Jew could pray in a mosque but not a church. Jews believe in One G-d as do Muslims. Christians have a Trinity. Jews and Muslims come from Israel and Arabia respectively. They were/ are tribal religions. Christianity comes from Rome. However, (although I Googled it, I could not...
  10. Moishe3rd

    for jewish converts: why did you choose judaism over others?

    Nice! And - "stuck with the Jews!" :D Indeed. I suspect that someday we will make Aliyah and move to Israel. I do remodeling and repairs. So, besides work and money and distance from my children and grandchildren - having rude Israeli Jews who would prefer not to even pay me... has scared me...
  11. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    I'm not sure - trying to make sense of this statement. Are you saying that most religious people of one particular religion do not have respect for the THEOLOGY of other particular religions? I suspect that is correct. However, if you are saying that most religious people of one particular...
  12. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    Not exactly. I wrote this previously. However, it IS THE Torah point of view regarding the death penalty. And, it specifically originates in the passages under discussion: The Torah is based on G-d's Justice. In this case, Justice means due process. You are not allowed to simply kill people...
  13. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    Very nice. So, do you believe that "Maat" was a governing principle? I read the Wiki and, if you so choose, you could certainly make an historical case that these kind of Laws found in the Torah came from Egypt. However, I see nowhere in Egyptian or later ancient history that this was even...
  14. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    I can't source a negative. But, I am happy to be proved wrong by someone else sourcing a culture or people that did create a governing principle that said: "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow."
  15. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    "Secular morality?" You are positing a world where morality is whatever anyone chooses it to be. That does not seem very conducive to what many people believe about morality. China; Syria; Egypt; Mozambique; Russia; Venezuela; Congo; Libya; Burma; and much of the rest of the world are all...
  16. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    I love it! Yes, that does indeed answer my question... Thank you. :)
  17. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    You're funny. Reciprocation: to make a return for something... Hillel's "Golden Rule:" "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. Jesus' "Golden Rule:" Do to others as you would have them do to you. Now, I will admit that people get along through "reciprocation" such as: give...
  18. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    It answers my question - but not yours... Are you aware where your "Golden Rule" comes from? Do you have any idea that this "Golden Rule" is a unique aphorism that is NOT practiced by any other culture on planet Earth and was not known outside of its culture before this "Golden Rule" came into...
  19. Moishe3rd

    How do Abrahamic religions interpret this?

    I am curious. When people ask such questions in such a manner, it implies that they really find the idea of the Divine ridiculous and beneath worthy intellectual consideration. What values do you live by? Where do you think your values come from? In your value system, it everything all the...
  20. Moishe3rd

    Genesis 3:24 - where are they now?

    Edenists The two branches of humanity, Adamism and Edenism diverged in 2090 when humans who had affinity bonds where excommunicated by the Christian Church. These people are edenists. The greatest difference between adamists andedenists is in their technologies. Development of Affinity Bond...
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