Wow. I always thought you were one for personal responsibility. Guess I was wrong.
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An Issue Of Valuing The Lives Of Others
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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Do you approve of what Israel is doing?
Countries are also responsible for
the consequences of their behavior.
I'm surprised this surprises you.
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You confuse my finding your arguments
& evidence lack with ignoring them.
Did you ignore my response as you ignored what Hamas has done? Why?
I mean... when you don't have food or medical supplies, and live under perpetual oppression like the civilians in Palestine, it is much easier to understand why certain choices are made.
Then why do you not hold the country of Palestine for the consequences of their behavior? Frankly, I’m not surprised you don’t show what you just said.
These answers are my personal opinion exclusively. Not the absolute truth. _)
Because they make many children.
The population doubled there, lately.
They are with them. They just make many children, so Gazan adults are fewer.
It depends, I don't know.
If they make many children to create a very functional, productive, joyful society where all live in harmony with the state of Israel, good.
If they make many children because they need soldiers to destroy the state of Israel...well...
what should I say? It's self-evident what I think.
Palestinian territories are supposed to be a state.
They were never encouraged to leave, as far as I know.
It depends.
Do they use the enormous funding from the EU and the UN to invest money to create social services, businesses, small enterprises?
Or do they use that money to dig tunnels and buy rockets?
You're mistaken in several ways.
"Palestine" is hardly a functioning country.
it's an open air prison, with Israel as the brutal jailer.
Israel has intentionally kept Palestinians poor, abused,
& short lived. Hamas & its violent ways wouldn't arise
if if Israel didn't perpetrate such evil over many decades.
Both sides are responsible for their actions. But only
Israel is responsible for creating the conditions that
create war. It consciously chooses to wield its great
power (using USA as minion) to this end.
What does that mean in English?
I suppose I should ask you why you approve of Israel's
continued brutalization of Palestinians, & now of their
murdering over 7,000, & injuring over 17,000...with the
carnage set to increase as food, fuel, & water run out.
But I know this it's a fundamental religious belief to
support God's Chosen People, no matter what human
rights they violate...because Muslims are beneath them.
Don't be evil by defending evil.
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I have been observing a particular kind of Westerners who are not able to empathize with the victims of terrorism.
They couldn't care less.
Here and beyond the ocean.
The West has done anything to appease fundamentalists. It was useless.
They couldn't care less.
Here and beyond the ocean.
The West has done anything to appease fundamentalists. It was useless.
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It's not limited to westerners, eg, China, Middle East.
And there's also the refusal to even recognize the
existence of terrorism, especially state terrorism.
When someone sees a country as an ally, this refusal
arises, eg, Italians vis-a-vis Russia, USA vis-a-vis Israel.
I remind you that Russia has never done anything against my country. When Putin visited, we have always rolled red carpets at him.
When he came, he was received in Villa Madama with all the ministers. It seldom happens.
That said, real terrorists are those who hate Europeans, who want to besiege it to impose their religion on us.
I am sorry, we are not interested. We are Christians. Even atheists consider themselves Christians, culturally.
Oh, so all that matters is how Italy fares, eh.
Pbbbbtttttt!!!!
First Hitler, & now Putin.
Italy shows its true colors by the leaders it fetes.
Terrorism is the use of threat & violence to
coerce behavior of others. The term applies
regardless of country or religion.
You never fail to amuse.
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I totally agree.
In fact I have never said that Christians are saints.
For instance the Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan killed RFK. Christian Palestinian.
Big mistake.
RFK was an angel on Earth. Just because he supported Israel.
....and the oppression of Palestinians.
So it goes with good Christians & Jews,
with their low regard for Muslims.
I have just said that Sirhan is a Christian.
This vision considering the Abrahmitic religions as three monoliths is absolutely horrendous, because that's the basis of fundamentalism.
I have never seen my fellow Catholics as "monolith". I told you many times that I believe someone killed Pope John Paul the first, in the Vatican.
We are speaking of Roman Catholics, inside the Vatican.
I have never thought all Catholics are good.
the 3 are a part of the same tree of information
What?
Personally, I have a hard time trying to wrap my head on the notion that people even want to have any children while living under a failed community.
Nations and States I care none about. They are just bothersome political fictions, worth no respect whatsoever on their own. I wish I could hope to live to see the abandomnent of the very concepts. They create a whole lot more harm than good, always did.
In a way, Israel, Gaza and much of the Arab World are perfect displays of my reasons. The joined burdens of both Abrahamic and National mythologies does no good to anyone there.