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Are Natural Disasters Punishment From God?
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johnhanks
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And you could only admire the way the just and omnipotent hand of god ensured only the gangbangers and prostitutes got hurt - I mean, it's not as though any innocent people died or lost everything, is it?
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
To be fair, if my neighborhood was full of those people, I'd move out of there.
Your location says Los Angeles.
I bet it is full of "those" people, at least within the same proximity as with Katrina.
The path of devastation was huge -- hundreds of square miles.
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
No not really. There's parts of LA that are upper class and it's safe and clean. I'm in the middle class area. The crime here is almost 0. So no, those people aren't here. It's a big city though. In the poor areas, there are those kinds of people, but not where I live.
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
So you are associating crime with homosexuality? Along with cleanliness and wealth?
Are you serious?
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
Cleanliness and wealth is associated with less crime, ya, but I didn't say homosexuality was.
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Yeah New Orleans is my home town and I just happened to have went through Katrina. I think we're done here
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Belief in a cruel god makes a cruel man- Thomas Paine
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
Tell that to the churches where people go to feed the homeless.
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
Sadly though it is the people feeding the homeless not Yahweh :biglaugh:
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
You mean to tell me that there aren't any clean drug lords sitting in mansions making massive profits? Haven't you ever heard of the Mafia?
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
But then that doesn't make them cruel men, as Egyptian said.
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
Oh please. That's not even crime. It's only crime when a poor guy sells it.
Ashoka
श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
Yes it does. The Bible is full of cruelties from your god, and as a result, wars, inquisitions, crusades, the wiping out of cultures and peoples, and oppression are carried out, using the bible as an excuse to do so.
That's the point I'm trying to make. You are still in the neighborhood, in the sense that you are within several hundred square miles of gangbangers and prostitutes.
We are talking about natural disasters, and whether or not they are a punishment from God.
I do not think so. I think you are saying you think so.
The point that I am trying to get to, is whether or not you would still think that a natural disaster was a punishment from God for gang-bangers and prostitutes if it happened in your area, close enough to directly affect you in a big way -- because you are that close (within several hundred square miles) of gang-bangers and prostitutes.
You made the comment that if your neighbor hood were full of those kinds of people, you would leave. I am asserting that when it comes to something of large impact, like a natural disaster -- they are in your neighborhood.
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
So the people serving the homeless in churches are also cruel? 2 billion of the Earth is cruel because God in the Bible is? Ya right.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
I also think there is more to the Genesis story. Though I don't associate the Serpent with the later devil ideas.
I think the Serpent represents the Serpent Sorcerers/Priests of older Pagan religions. Ancient historians tell us the original Hebrew came from India which of course had Serpent Sorcerers, the Naga.
We can follow the evolution of this word from India to the "holy land."
For instance Serpent is Naga in India, Nagash in Babylonian, and Nachash in the Bible.
Both the Indian Naga/Serpent/Sorcerers and the Hebrew Nachash/Serpent/Sorcerers are associated with magic/spell-craft. In fact the word for magic in the Bible is nachash -(snake) hiss/whisper an incantation.
Abrasax, a figure with Serpents for legs, represented the Christos in the early church according to Tertullian (264.) This is very interesting as the Indian Wild Man/Cernunnos/Padmaponi character is shown with Serpent legs in ancient carvings.
So we have a new religion conquering the "Serpent," (think St. Patrick cleansing the SERPENTS from Ireland,) then a later "Serpent" named Iesous/Jesus trying to change it back. Interesting. Joseph and Jesus are called, in the Greek, "tekton," now translated carpenter - however, the underlying word it is translated from is the Aramaic "Naggara," Crafter/Serpent Sorcerer. We have stories of Joseph being called a Sorcerer, and Jesus is associated with the Fiery Serpent lifted up in the desert (Numbers 21:8-9, John 3:14.) Jesus is actually called a Sorcerer in ancient Jewish texts.
As soon as I saw the word I was thinking Nagga-Ra, Serpent of the Sun, from their stopover in Egypt.
And there is also Eve - Chavvah/Hevvah?
I was reading that Clement of Alexandria and Eusebius of Caesarea interpreted "Hevva" in its aspirated form as "female serpent."
To expand that, a Serpent causes the troubles, the Mother of ALL is a Serpent, and a Messiah Serpent corrects the problem Hummmm!
Also - The Hebrew ancestral Temple at Shiloh is located by the Sacred Serpent Stone Zoheleth.
Ashoka
श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
People who carry out atrocities in the name of that book are cruel.
How can you talk about compassion for the poor when you make posts like this?
You have a lot of growing up to do.
Namaskar.