Are you a liar?

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

If prophecy exists, then so too does the Spirit of God that inspires the prophecy. I believe it's possible to demonstrate that prophetic utterance exists in the Bible.

Sci fi authors have better and more accurate predictions. Was God necessary?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Apparently 6 million Jews got Hitler. Judah has a track record of sinning, such as burning their children in sacrifice to Baal. Now, many of Judah/Jews simply get abortions and burn their babies to the god of green energy in furnaces. As judgment is coming to all the nations, one should be careful of their choices. Judgment day is coming, whether people acknowledge that what they do to others will eventually come down on their own heads, or not. The boogeyman is coming. (Zechariah 14:12)

'Truly disturbing': Energy company accused of incinerating babies' bodies for electricity (wnd.com)

Jeremiah 19:…4 because they have abandoned Me and made this a foreign place. They have burned incense in this place to other gods that neither they nor their fathers nor the kings of Judah have ever known. They have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5They have built high places to Baal on which to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal— something I never commanded or mentioned, nor did it even enter My mind. 6So behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when this place will no longer be called Topheth or the Valley of Ben-hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter.…

Why should abortion be bad when priests forced it on the wives of paranoid husbands?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

The wearing of masks does not infringe on anyone's personal freedom - forcing people to wear masks - based on nothing but fear and political hackery - is an infringement

Do you feel the same way about clothes?

 

[2ndpillar]

Why should abortion be bad when priests forced it on the wives of paranoid husbands?

A test for adultery is not the same as a chemical abortion. The adulterous wives had their belly's swell, which resulted in the loss of the child. Adultery is a serious offense under the law, an offense in which caused the loss of king David's child born under the condition of adultery. In today's society, which is collapsing, not so much, for the Progressives encourage the coveting of your neighbors house and goods. Facilitating adultery, killing of the unborn, taking of another's property (socialism), making false witness against one's neighbor or even God, is something that will bite one in the end. The reckoning is coming. The new Supreme Court leaked comments on Roe versus Wade, will put the liability on the states, and those individual blue states, will reap the whirlwind. That is good for the red states, which may survive, versus the blue states, which are already dying. The dogma of the "Christian" churches is that they can evade justice, and the dogma of the godless, is that there is no justice. They will both be found lacking.

 

[2ndpillar]

Do you feel the same way about clothes?

The wearing of clothes is a check against

That was a typo via autocorrect. I meant independent. They are a good civil rights activist organization doing work to advocate for the civil rights of black citizens. And of course you are opposed to this. Do you think your religion can save you ftom racial prejudice?

BLM encouraged racism, and there was nothing good in their actions of burning down police stations and courts. Their 10 goals included burning down the system (capital system), bringing down religion, bringing down the family. They did not use their contributions to help rebuild the burned down black business, but invested the contributions into buying personal houses for themselves. Defunding and killing the police resulted in poor conditions for black neighborhoods, and was not supported by blacks, but by rich over educated white Progressives, many who want the blacks and middle working class to pay for their high cost mostly worthless education bills.

 

[Elihoenai]

You might just as well not believe that Jesus is the Messiah, or Saviour.

According to your theology, a person must continue to do works under the law. Faith does not appear to matter.

Why even seek the Holy Spirit if it makes no difference to your doing what is required under the law?

@Redemptionsong Your theology is Roman Catholic. You said that you have been Water Baptised and had Laying on of Hands, as demonstrated in videos. The Evil Geniuses Theology of the Universal Roman Catholic Church makes it impossible to stop Sinning.

Water Baptism is one of the Sacraments. Do you partake in the Eucharist?

 

[2ndpillar]

False. The usa and politics had prejudice against Jews just like much of the rest of the world. Once the Nazis extermination happened it shined a light on those who had even minor prejudice against Jews, and the congress passed a law that made any immigrants seeking asylum from danger being allowed in. Of course it is republicans who dont want to allow southern immigrants in wven if they have valid asylum claims. There is your modern US prejudice. FDR was an economic progressive but not a racial progressive.

The military arm of the Democrats during the 30s was the KKK. Biden gave the grand wizard of the KKK a good commentary at the Wizard's funeral. We are living in the era of George Orwell's 1984, whereas black is white, and good is evil. There are no "asylum claims" being heard. The law requires the claims be heard while the claimants remain in Mexico. We are in a period of lawlessness, supposedly based on the wokes supposedly higher level of righteousness, while the woke get rich, and the poor and working class pay the bill. I think someone is going to have to pay the butcher.

 

[Tinker Grey]

The military arm of the Democrats during the 30s was the KKK. Biden gave the grand wizard of the KKK a good commentary at the Wizard's funeral. We are living in the era of George Orwell's 1984, whereas black is white, and good is evil. There are no "asylum claims" being heard. The law requires the claims be heard while the claimants remain in Mexico. We are in a period of lawlessness, supposedly based on the wokes supposedly higher level of righteousness, while the woke get rich, and the poor and working class pay the bill. I think someone is going to have to pay the butcher.

Speaking of lies: Fact check: Robert Byrd, eulogized by Joe Biden at funeral, was not KKK Grand Wizard

Social media users have been sharing content online that claims Democratic Presidential nominee Joe Biden eulogized Robert Byrd, asserting he was the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK). This claim is partly false. Though various prominent politicians eulogized Byrd at his funeral, the senator was never the grand wizard of the KKK and he has acknowledged and apologized for his membership during his youth.
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Are you a liar?

 

[Elihoenai]

This is why science can be relied upon and religion cannot. Science defines things accurately while religions do not. So if you use religious references they are likely untrue and carry non-factual assumptions.

Exactly. Last time I checked this is a Religious Forum. If I wanted to talk about Science I would be in a science forum.

It is not clear objectively or factually. You are referring to religious concepts and non-factual assumptions, so your claims here are rejected.

That's, correct. This is Religious Forum where Science is inadequate to explain Religious Phenomenon. @F1fan You will never find Elohim/God with pure Science and Facts. And your destiny is determined by Elohim/God.

Logical fallacy, argument from popularity. But your way of thinking Hinduism and Islam are also true because millions and billions believe them. Is that what you mean to do, that Hinduism is true because there are millions of believers?

Did I say anything about it being True?

So you are admitting that different people have different interpretations of what God is? OK, what makes you think you got it right and all those who believe differently are wrong?

Present your facts and a coherent argument.

Obviously, different people have different interpretations of who or what Elohim/God is. That's why you have different Religions and different beliefs within Religions. You question cannot be satisfied with facts. Because the answer can only be satisfied Internally and not Externally.

 

[Subduction Zone]

A test for adultery is not the same as a chemical abortion. The adulterous wives had their belly's swell, which resulted in the loss of the child. Adultery is a serious offense under the law, an offense in which caused the loss of king David's child born under the condition of adultery. In today's society, which is collapsing, not so much, for the Progressives encourage the coveting of your neighbors house and goods. Facilitating adultery, killing of the unborn, taking of another's property (socialism), making false witness against one's neighbor or even God, is something that will bite one in the end. The reckoning is coming. The new Supreme Court leaked comments on Roe versus Wade, will put the liability on the states, and those individual blue states, will reap the whirlwind. That is good for the red states, which may survive, versus the blue states, which are already dying. The dogma of the "Christian" churches is that they can evade justice, and the dogma of the godless, is that there is no justice. They will both be found lacking.

Actually it was. If you read that and understood it you would see that it was an abortion. You can't excuse it by pointing to another immoral law.

 

[Elihoenai]

The Roman church was established by the "beast with two horns like a lamb" to "deceive" those "who dwell on the earth" (Revelation 13). That beast was Constantine who in 325 A.D. convened the Council of Nicaea to set the central dogma for this church of the empire. According to Daniel 7:25-26, that entity will prevail for time, times, and half a time until it is "destroyed forever". You seem to me mixing up the "Lord God", with the beast, the false prophet, and the dragon, whose dominion end is quickly approaching.

Everything that happens is the Will of Elohim/God. The Devil/Satan is Elohim's/God's instrument to try the Saints and Punish Evildoers.

Do you know about the Satanic Knights Templar/Freemason Vatican Soldiers?

Gangstalking Freemasons Targeted Individuals And Prayer
Gangstalking Freemasons Targeted Individuals And Prayer

 

[F1fan]

Exactly. Last time I checked this is a Religious Forum. If I wanted to talk about Science I would be in a science forum.

Since many theists have flawed beliefs that are contrary to science it is appropriate to refer to science and it's accuracy as a rebuttal to errors of judgment. We see many theists show bias and contempt for science, and I find this mental state every interesting. What do theists fear about science, and why are they so insecure in their faith?

That's, correct. This is Religious Forum where Science is inadequate to explain Religious Phenomenon. @F1fan You will never find Elohim/God with pure Science and Facts. And your destiny is determined by Elohim/God.

Of course there is no known religious phenomenon outside of what the social sciences explain about it. Theists certainly fail time after time to demonstrate their beliefs are real and true, you included.

Let's note you will never find Hobbits and Elves just as I will never find God.

Did I say anything about it being True?

You used the number of believers in Christianity as if that means something about the validity of what Christians believe. It doesn't.

Obviously, different people have different interpretations of who or what Elohim/God is. That's why you have different religions and different beliefs within Religions. You question cannot be satisfied with facts. Because the answer can only be satisfied Internally and not Externally.

Too many options, too few facts. This is why rational thinkers aren't convinced any Gods exist outside of human imagination.

 

[F1fan]

The military arm of the Democrats during the 30s was the KKK. Biden gave the grand wizard of the KKK a good commentary at the Wizard's funeral. We are living in the era of George Orwell's 1984, whereas black is white, and good is evil. There are no "asylum claims" being heard. The law requires the claims be heard while the claimants remain in Mexico. We are in a period of lawlessness, supposedly based on the wokes supposedly higher level of righteousness, while the woke get rich, and the poor and working class pay the bill. I think someone is going to have to pay the butcher.

Remember that it was Democrats who made up most of the Confederate States of America as they seceded from the USA. In that era up until the 30-60s the Democrats changed political positions with Republicans. Lincoln was a liberal from Illinois running for president with the new political party called the Republicans. Democrats were the conservative party.

It's interesting to see how the Dems and Repubs changed over the next 100 years, from FDR being a Democrat and an advocate of heavy spending on infrastructure spending to Eisenhower being a Republicans who was an advocate of heavy infrastructure spending, namely the Interstate highway system. With Kennedy and Johnson in the 60's the Democrats became the party os social rights and conscience. But even Nixon signed Medicare into law, showing how both parties agreed upon basic human needs of citizens. It's only been since Reagan that Republicans started seeing government as the enemy, and this has gotten out of control through Ginrich in the 90's all the way to what we see today with an extremely biased and religiously extreme Supreme Court looking to overturn reproductive rights. This unethical conservatism is starting to have a serious negative effect, mostly driven by Trump's corruption and adversarial attitude with any ethical people who oppose his corruption.

 

[2ndpillar]

Speaking of lies: Fact check: Robert Byrd, eulogized by Joe Biden at funeral, was not KKK Grand Wizard

Social media users have been sharing content online that claims Democratic Presidential nominee Joe Biden eulogized Robert Byrd, asserting he was the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK). This claim is partly false. Though various prominent politicians eulogized Byrd at his funeral, the senator was never the grand wizard of the KKK and he has acknowledged and apologized for his membership during his youth.
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{Emphasis Added}

Are you a liar?

Sorry, he was an "organizer" of the KKK according to Reuters. He didn't quite reach the pinnacle of power. He was named an “exalted cyclops”. Sorry, not being a Democrat, I am not familiar with their ranking. By the way, Bill Clinton, the first black president, according to him, and Obama also spoke at the funeral. Hey I was mistaken on the titling of the KKK member. You are apparently trying to overlook his real ranking and participation, as he formed his own membership group. Are you a part of the deception of the real link between Democrats and the KKK, or for the connection between the fascist of the 30s and the Progressive Roosevelt administration.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Sorry, he was an "organizer" of the KKK according to Reuters. He didn't quite reach the pinnacle of power. He was named an “exalted cyclops”. Sorry, not being a Democrat, I am not familiar with their ranking. By the way, Bill Clinton, the first black president, according to him, and Obama also spoke at the funeral. Hey I was mistaken on the titling of the KKK member. You are apparently trying to overlook his real ranking and participation, as he formed his own membership group. Are you a part of the deception of the real link between Democrats and the KKK, or for the connection between the fascist of the 30s and the Progressive Roosevelt administration.

Yes. His rank indicated that he was the head of a local chapter only.

Here's wiki info: Robert Byrd - Wikipedia

Byrd later called joining the KKK "the greatest mistake I ever made."[7] In 1997, he told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics but also warned, "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena."[35] In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision—a jejune and immature outlook—seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions."[36] Byrd also said in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."[15]
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To link Biden to the KKK via this is nothing but a smear. You should be ashamed.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

A test for adultery is not the same as a chemical abortion. The adulterous wives had their belly's swell, which resulted in the loss of the child.

Yes. The fetus was aborted.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sorry, he was an "organizer" of the KKK according to Reuters. He didn't quite reach the pinnacle of power. He was named an “exalted cyclops”. Sorry, not being a Democrat, I am not familiar with their ranking. By the way, Bill Clinton, the first black president, according to him, and Obama also spoke at the funeral. Hey I was mistaken on the titling of the KKK member. You are apparently trying to overlook his real ranking and participation, as he formed his own membership group. Are you a part of the deception of the real link between Democrats and the KKK, or for the connection between the fascist of the 30s and the Progressive Roosevelt administration.

Oh, being a Democrat has nothing to do with being in the KKK today. You are conflating old school democrats with new school democrats. Today members of the KKK tend to be Republican. That was Richard Nixon's doing:

Study: The KKK helped Republicans win the South

 

[2ndpillar]

Remember that it was Democrats who made up most of the Confederate States of America as they seceded from the USA. In that era up until the 30-60s the Democrats changed political positions with Republicans. Lincoln was a liberal from Illinois running for president with the new political party called the Republicans. Democrats were the conservative party.

It's interesting to see how the Dems and Repubs changed over the next 100 years, from FDR being a Democrat and an advocate of heavy spending on infrastructure spending to Eisenhower being a Republicans who was an advocate of heavy infrastructure spending, namely the Interstate highway system. With Kennedy and Johnson in the 60's the Democrats became the party os social rights and conscience. But even Nixon signed Medicare into law, showing how both parties agreed upon basic human needs of citizens. It's only been since Reagan that Republicans started seeing government as the enemy, and this has gotten out of control through Ginrich in the 90's all the way to what we see today with an extremely biased and religiously extreme Supreme Court looking to overturn reproductive rights. This unethical conservatism is starting to have a serious negative effect, mostly driven by Trump's corruption and adversarial attitude with any ethical people who oppose his corruption.

It kind of sounds like you were educated on one of those over rated liberal arts colleges. The last I heard, Biden was trying to get a infrastructure bill through, just like Obama had a shovel ready infrastrure bill, but found out he didn't have any shovels ready. As for social redristribution of wealth, it appears the Bidens seem to have circumvented paying their own taxes and the investigation might put them into deeper water. I am not talking about their new beach front house. What is good for thee, is not good for me. As for "reproductive rights", you can reproduce as much as you want, but killing your own children will now be left up to the states, and is no longer under an unconstitutional judicial produced law. That way any blood of the killing of children will be put upon the heads of the states involved. A targeted justice system.

 

[2ndpillar]

Yes. The fetus was aborted.

It was "aborted" in the case of adultery. The waters taken did not affect the wombs of the righteous, those who did not commit adultery. Apparently, the wicked, the law breakers, were unable to reproduce. Fortunately, today, the wicked, the lawless, such as AOC, elect to not produce. Maybe if the government pays for her educational debt, she will feel freer to reproduce. Hopefully, the government will not pay enough of her debt to give her such a sense of freedom. One can only hope. If 90%of the population is forced to pay the debt of the over rated 10% of the higher college educated with their 1.5 trillion debt, the poor Progressives will loose even more votes. The millenniums have already turned against Brandon, I am not thinking that a $10,000 check will buy many their votes. The college educated women seem to be turning against the Progressives. It appears getting killed by a hammer, or stabbed to death, or getting car jacked, is loosing is luster.

 

[F1fan]

It kind of sounds like you were educated on one of those over rated liberal arts colleges.

It's amazing what a college education can prepare you for, especially being able to rebut the bad faith claims of Christian extremists.

The last I heard, Biden was trying to get a infrastructure bill through, just like Obama had a shovel ready infrastrure bill, but found out he didn't have any shovels ready.

Trump also promised investment in infrastructure but never got around to it. Biden is finally trying to make it happen so our nation is better prepared to compete economically with China. China invests 12% of its GPD into infrastructure. As China is able to be more competitive the USA allows it's rich to get richer, with few benefits for the nation or its population.

As for social redristribution of wealth, it appears the Bidens seem to have circumvented paying their own taxes and the investigation might put them into deeper water. I am not talking about their new beach front house. What is good for thee, is not good for me.

This sounds like bogus right wing extremist disinformation.

As for "reproductive rights", you can reproduce as much as you want, but killing your own children will now be left up to the states, and is no longer under an unconstitutional judicial produced law. That way any blood of the killing of children will be put upon the heads of the states involved. A targeted justice system.

Your hyperbole only makes you look poorly informed and afraid that you can't argue against abortion rights with facts. No state allows children to be killed, so your wording is exceptionally poor. Perhaps you should go to an over rated liberal arts college to get a foundation of knowledge. Or just read yourself from reputable sources.