Avi's Spiritual and Religious Journey - Part 2

[Avi1001]

Avi, just what "secrets" do you think are being kept in the Kaballah?

Great question, Akivah. Jewish mysticism....it's an obscure area of study out of reach to me because I am not an expert in Torah, Talmud and the other sacred texts. In other words....mumbo jumbo. Do you agree ?

Btw, Rav Berg wrote a 30 volume translation of the Zohar...a related issue ?

 

[metis]

One of the things that struck me in reading Kabbalah is how similar it is to a style used in eastern mysticism, and I'm not too sure it's coincidence.

 

[Avi1001]

One of the things that struck me in reading Kabbalah is how similar it is to a style used in eastern mysticism, and I'm not too sure it's coincidence.

Metis, what do you think of this review?

Kabbalah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[metis]

Metis, what do you think of this review?

Kabbalah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just glanced at your link but stopped because Kabbalah just ain't my cup of tea. I'm a pragmatist to a fault, so any kind of mysticism just goes against my grain.

 

[Avi1001]

I just glanced at your link but stopped because Kabbalah just ain't my cup of tea. I'm a pragmatist to a fault, so any kind of mysticism just goes against my grain.

Metis, it's probably better that we not speak of the unspeakable.

 

[paarsurrey]

Here we go again. More threads about how you have to be an expert in Torah, Talmud, etc. to even try to read Kabbalah. I'm not buy in' it. If Stephan Hawking can write a book to explain black holes to the general public, some genius should be able to explain Kabbalah to us ignorami.

Also, I do not believe the Berg's are bad, they are threatening the establishment....they better not post in the DIR.

Hi my Jewish friend!

I never claimed to be an expert.
Did I?

Regards

 

[Akivah]

Great question, Akivah. Jewish mysticism....it's an obscure area of study out of reach to me because I am not an expert in Torah, Talmud and the other sacred texts. In other words....mumbo jumbo. Do you agree ?

You are the one that said Kaballah is kept secret for power and control issues. Now you are saying that it's all mumbo jumbo. So which is it? Is it control and power or useless mumbo-jumbo?

 

[paarsurrey]

You are the one that said Kaballah is kept secret for power and control issues. Now you are saying that it's all mumbo jumbo. So which is it? Is it control and power or useless mumbo-jumbo?

Power for what and to control whom? Please.

Regards

 

[Avi1001]

You are the one that said Kaballah is kept secret for power and control issues. Now you are saying that it's all mumbo jumbo. So which is it? Is it control and power or useless mumbo-jumbo?

Power and Control are mumbo jumbo.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Jewish meditation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kabbalah appears to be an experimental meditation practice, going by the above article. It probably gives Jews supernatural powers and enables instantaneous communication across vast distances.

 

[paarsurrey]

@ Avi my Jewish friend!

I belong to the Ahmadiyya Muslim community.We are being persecuted in many Muslim communities.

In one of your post when you first mentioned of the Arab demonstration in France before the synagogue you had an apprehension that such incidences would spread to Germany as well;so the Jews should come out from France and Germany and the neighboring countries and should go to America.

My suggestion is that when such a demonstration takes place; and the police is also present; there is no need to respond from the inside of the worship place.

One should only react when the demonstrators try to come inside by breaking the entrance doors.

This is our experience as to how to deal with the demonstration/processions.
We have been doing this for a long time; and the loss remains minimal.

That was my point; just sharing the experience.

Regards

 

[Brickjectivity]

Jewish meditation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kabbalah appears to be an experimental meditation practice, going by the above article. It probably gives Jews supernatural powers and enables instantaneous communication across vast distances.

No one replied, which proves my statement is true. How else would they know (if they were not empowered with telepathy by kaballah) that I was not being serious? Point.

 

[paarsurrey]

Originally Posted by Brickjectivity
Jewish meditation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kabbalah appears to be an experimental meditation practice, going by the above article. It probably gives Jews supernatural powers and enables instantaneous communication across vast distances

No one replied, which proves my statement is true. How else would they know (if they were not empowered with telepathy by kaballah) that I was not being serious? Point.

Kabbalah is a Jewish fabrication; Moses never believed in it and never practiced it.

It has noting to do with Moses or the religion he believed and practiced.

Regards

 

[Akivah]

Power and Control are mumbo jumbo.

Then its a good thing that the general public doesn't see it.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I'm being more serious when I say it is more accurate to call it a Jewish invention but not a fabrication of anything else. It isn't for example trying to do anything that something else already does. Apparently it is a gift from some older generations to newer ones, and that's about all that can be known about it from an outsider's perspective. Its fun to tease though.

 

[metis]

Kabbalah is a Jewish fabrication; Moses never believed in it and never practiced it.

It has noting to do with Moses or the religion he believed and practiced.

Regards

Moses had nothing to do with the "New Testament" nor the Qur'an, so I assume that you believe they are bogus as well. Based on what you believe above, I do assume that in order to be consistent that you're going to leave your faith and convert to Judaism. When do you plan to start the process?

 

[paarsurrey]

I'm being more serious when I say it is more accurate to call it a Jewish invention but not a fabrication of anything else. It isn't for example trying to do anything that something else already does. Apparently it is a gift from some older generations to newer ones, and that's about all that can be known about it from an outsider's perspective. Its fun to tease though.

Earlier the Jews invented the Golden Calf; Kabbalah is one new one.

Moses told us that Jews are a rebellious people.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Moses had nothing to do with the "New Testament" nor the Qur'an, so I assume that you believe they are bogus as well. Based on what you believe above, I do assume that in order to be consistent that you're going to leave your faith and convert to Judaism. When do you plan to start the process?

Abraham is a fictional character of Jews/Judaism; not from Moses.

The real person is Ibrahim.

My intention is to bridge gaps between all Revealed Religions of the world; and to make them ONE.

Regards

 

[metis]

Abraham is a fictional character of Jews/Judaism; not from Moses.

The real person is Ibrahim.

My intention is to bridge gaps between all Revealed Religions of the world; and to make them ONE.

Regards

You did not answer the question, so all you have done again is to slip into just more inconsistencies. The issue you mentioned and I responded to was not about "Abraham", so I'm not going to let you get away with a disingenuous attempt at bait-and-switch.

 

[Brickjectivity]

He told one generation it was rebellious, but it died out.