That's why the continued fight in the desert called The Near East. Still trying to live ancient history.
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Benjamin Netanyahu's statement actually offends me. Am I wromg to be offended?
- Thread starter lunakilo
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That's why the continued fight in the desert called The Near East. Still trying to live ancient history.
rosends
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actually, IIRC, I told you to "feel free to try and trace yourself to Shem, son of Noah if you'd like" but that that was not the focus of defining "anti-Semite." You are focusing on that because you cannot discuss the actual point you erred on?
rosends
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What are you talking about? The issue was the use of "anti-Semite" and its relationship to non-Jewish semites. The word exists. It means something. Deal with it. If you want to speak your own language, feel free. Don't expect anyone to understand you, though.
rosends
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Irrelevant how? He started by sending condolences to all. I quoted that already.
"We send our condolences to the Danish people, and also to the Jewish community in Denmark"
I see a group of people claiming to be better then their relatives in the Near East and sitting back while the World takes sides and they continue to stir the pot from both sides. One controls the oil the other controls the money. The rest of the world is sucked walking on egg shells.
Now if my above statement is "Anti-Semitic" so be it. All Semites are at fault. In America we can voice or opinions outside the Family blood line.
We once had a guy here try to claim that the ADL created the term after WW2 in order to generate pro-Israel sentiment.
The amount of misinformation and the re-writing of history is starting to get really scary.
Flankerl
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Israeli legislative election, 2015 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It seems some people missed it.
It seems some people missed it.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Oh my aren't we edgy today.
rosends
Well-Known Member
now you have moved to a completely different line of discussion, creating this fiction of superiority and familial bond exacerbated by a binary opposition of "one controls the oil and the other controls the money."
Is that statement anti-semitic? No, the ignorance and bigotry in it go far beyond that local label.
JRMcC
Active Member
Yo you are off your rocker.
lunakilo
Well-Known Member
No, that woudn't offend me, but that is not what Netanyahu's statement sounds like to me.
What it sounds like to me is "We are sorry that some people died. But SOMEONE KILLED A JEW!!! THOSE EUROPEANS DON'T CARE ABOUT JEWS. ALL JEWS SHOULD COME TO ISRAEL, THEN I WILL FIX EVERYTHING AND ALL JEWS CAN BE HAPPY!"
He actually says that 'Israel is the home of every Jew.' I am pretty sure Dan Uzan felt Denmark was his home.
rosends
Well-Known Member
So it sounds a certain way to you. What offends you then is what you hear, not what he said.
I feel the US is my home and am a proud American. I also feel Israel is my home. Maybe Dan Uzan felt the same way, especially considering that his father is Israeli.
You miss the point so drammatically that I honestly don't know if you want to.
JRMcC
Active Member
I think Jewish pride starts to sound a little bit like racism when it's taken too far.
CMike
Well-Known Member
It's almost like radical Islamic are targeting Jews or something.
I take it that the most relevant facts are that there is the Israeli Legislative is very much in conflict with the Prime Minister, so much so that it decided to dissolve itself (pretty much unanimously) in early December and has new elections set for March 17th?
That is nice to know, but given how wildly the perceptions of the causes and significance of facts vary in this thread, some additional comment would be nice as well.
I take it that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu must be worried about his lack of support and attempting to improve his public image to revert that trend. Regrettably, he seems to have concluded that posturing to appear "strong" would serve that goal despite the drawbacks and general lack of wisdom of such a decision.
Basically, it is one of those all-too-familiar situations in modern democracies, where the Executive and the Legislative periodically need to enter into conflict in order to find out how much they need each other's support and at what price.
There is of course some opinion and judgement of mine mixed in there, but I hope to have been fair to the facts themselves.
Still very much sad, shameful even, to see Netanyahu resort to such barbaric nationalistic tactics. We should have shoved those ideologies a hundred years ago at least.
CMike
Well-Known Member
Very deep and thoughtful. It's almost like a Luis post.
Of course they are. And by playing their game the PM is encouraging it that much further.