By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

[Subduction Zone]

The topic is by the way-‘if you consider yourself to be a Christian what do you consider to be true be specific:
So I consider the Cross - Jesus Christ God incarnate died, was buried and rose from the dead. I believed this to be true, repented of my former lifestyle and God did something inside of me I couldn’t explain except I could see and understand spiritual things and also the Bible made sense to me. So based on that first of many encounters with God I believe every part of the Bible narrative and also found God to be faithful to His promises. I’ve obtained many so far and know God for myself

And once again that sort of event is not unique to Christianity. As a result it cannot be evidence for Christianity.

 

[ElishaElijah]

And once again that sort of event is not unique to Christianity. As a result it cannot be evidence for Christianity.

Your comments have nothing to do with the post, you seem to be proselytizing something because you’re way off the mark on the original post.
Why don’t you just answer the question of the post ?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your comments have nothing to do with the post, you seem to be proselytizing something because you’re way off the mark on the original post.
Why don’t you just answer the question of the post ?

What question is that? I may have answered it a long time ago. If so I will answer it again.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Hey @YoursTrue , hope you’re well.

This thread has taken off, hasn’t it?

Many different responses….. very little agreement, but that’s to be expected….
More evidence for the existence of the Great Deceiver (Revelation 12:9), eh?

There are a great many more attacks to the Bible, than any other religious book; and a much higher percentage of disagreements between those in christendom, than within any other religion!

Since Jesus called Satan “the ruler of this world” (John 12:31), we should expect that spiritual truth would be a target, and that confusion — be it religious or secular — is everywhere.

Have you found any responses to this thread that agree with your view? Or any that you at least find interesting?

 

[YoursTrue]

Hey @YoursTrue , hope you’re well.

This thread has taken off, hasn’t it?

Many different responses….. very little agreement, but that’s to be expected….
More evidence for the existence of the Great Deceiver (Revelation 12:9), eh?

There are a great many more attacks to the Bible, than any other religious book; and a much higher percentage of disagreements between those in christendom, than within any other religion!

Since Jesus called Satan “the ruler of this world” (John 12:31), we should expect that spiritual truth would be a target, and that confusion — be it religious or secular — is everywhere.

Have you found any responses to this thread that agree with your view? Or any that you at least find interesting?

It's interesting in a way. There are many different viewpoints. I've met some people lately in real life that are interested in the Bible and its message. God reads the heart.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

It's interesting in a way. There are many different viewpoints. I've met some people lately in real life that are interested in the Bible and its message. God reads the heart.

Yes, me too, lately.

It is nice when some we meet are willing to take some time to learn about what the Bible really teaches us…. I think more & more people are getting disillusioned with this System, frustrated with the lack of answers, and scared from what trends they notice is happening in our global society!

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes, me too, lately.

It is nice when some we meet are willing to take some time to learn about what the Bible really teaches us…. I think more & more people are getting disillusioned with this System, frustrated with the lack of answers, and scared from what trends they notice is happening in our global society!

Yes. Many I meet are realizing things are getting worse in a certain sense in the world. Crime is rampant. I believe we can see from situations in the world that Bible prophecy is being fulfilled. For someone to poo poo the situation by saying things are not so bad while there is sickness, death, injustice around us is callous indeed. And selfish.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Yes. Many I meet are realizing things are getting worse in a certain sense in the world. Crime is rampant. I believe we can see from situations in the world that Bible prophecy is being fulfilled. For someone to poo poo the situation by saying things are not so bad while there is sickness, death, injustice around us is callous indeed. And selfish.

I’m finding a lot of people sick of being stuck going through the motions and hungry for the presence of God.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes. Many I meet are realizing things are getting worse in a certain sense in the world. Crime is rampant. I believe we can see from situations in the world that Bible prophecy is being fulfilled. For someone to poo poo the situation by saying things are not so bad while there is sickness, death, injustice around us is callous indeed. And selfish.

"Crime is rampant.". Unless, of course, one checks the statistics.

 

[YoursTrue]

"Crime is rampant.". Unless, of course, one checks the statistics.

Crime is not rampant? That is a distorted view. Perhaps your view will make the soldiers and populace in war torm countries feel better.

 

[YoursTrue]

"Crime is rampant.". Unless, of course, one checks the statistics.

Go tell that type of thing to hospital workers who got sick when working to reduce the effects of illness.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Go tell that type of thing to hospital workers who got sick when working to reduce the effects of illness.

What? You were talking about crime, not health care.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Crime is not rampant? That is a distorted view. Perhaps your view will make the soldiers and populace in war torm countries feel better.

Did I say nonexistent? And now you are conflating crime and warfare. You should check the statistics on that too.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

And once again that sort of event is not unique to Christianity. As a result it cannot be evidence for Christianity.

I think you are correct because the savior story about Jesus isn't the first of its kind. Personally, I don't believe that it's any more credible than the archaic myths from which it was seemingly copied and adapted. In fact, savior stories were common lore in Greek mythology and other ancient pagan religions. I was genuinely surprised at just how common it was when I studied Jesus in comparative mythology. I further explained my viewpoint in the following post.

Who is Jesus?

In my opinion, I don’t think anybody’s fooled when we talk about Jesus and who he is. In my opinion I think most of us know he’s a man living today and not a man who lived 2000 years ago. It’s also easy to understand why people don’t talk that way. I get it.

www.religiousforums.com

 

[YoursTrue]

I’m finding a lot of people sick of being stuck going through the motions and hungry for the presence of God.

Then you have a lot of people who don't believe in God. Or who believe there is hellfire waiting for the "unsaved..."

 

[YoursTrue]

And once again that sort of event is not unique to Christianity. As a result it cannot be evidence for Christianity.

I don't believe from the Bible that Jesus is God equal to two other persons called God. But I do believe in Jesus. And God. And the holy Spirit of God. They are not three persons in one.

 

[YoursTrue]

"Crime is rampant.". Unless, of course, one checks the statistics.

One murder is bad enough.

 

[YoursTrue]

"Crime is rampant.". Unless, of course, one checks the statistics.

Meantime there's nothing you can do to avoid the natural course of things.

 

[YoursTrue]

I think you are correct because the savior story about Jesus isn't the first of its kind. Personally, I don't believe that it's any more credible than the archaic myths from which it was seemingly copied and adapted. In fact, savior stories were common lore in Greek mythology and other ancient pagan religions. I was genuinely surprised at just how common it was when I studied Jesus in comparative mythology. I further explained my viewpoint in the following post.

Who is Jesus?

In my opinion, I don’t think anybody’s fooled when we talk about Jesus and who he is. In my opinion I think most of us know he’s a man living today and not a man who lived 2000 years ago. It’s also easy to understand why people don’t talk that way. I get it.

www.religiousforums.com

I do believe it's "more credible" than other stories. I also believe there are living spirits who pretend to be dead persons who speak to the living.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I do believe it's "more credible" than other stories. I also believe there are living spirits who pretend to be dead persons who speak to the living.

You're entitled to believe whatever you want, YoursTrue. It makes absolutely no difference to me.