California wants to break free and form their own liberal utopia.

[Shadow Wolf]

People move to where they feel the opportunities are.

That's one of the things that attracts me to places like LA or Seattle. Jobs are slim pickings around here unless you went to med school or drive trucks. But in those areas there are many, and looking over job-posting websites for such cities gave me a perspective on the "full time position" of looking for work, because it would take that long filling out applications and sending resumes for all those jobs. Here, spend a few hours and you'll almost have applied to all of what's available. And perhaps the most disappointing thing is that although a ton of various artists, from musicians to TV personalities, children's book authors and actors, have come from Indiana in this state the opportunities for artists are on life support-to-non existent. Some of the biggest names in music, such as Cole Porter, Michael Jackson, and Axl Rose, have come from this state, but the local music scene barely has any life in it.

But then do professions need to align to specific beliefs?

I'm glad we don't. And playing this geopolitical identity game I do believe is what allowed Obama to come into Indiana, campaign, draw out the non-Conservative Christian crowd that does exist here, and win Indiana on his first election. If this notion of geopolitical identities were so homogeneous it's doubtful Obama would have won this state.
While we're at it, how about we bring up that Eastern Washington (more rural, poor, and Conservative) wants to split from the Western Coastal Washington (more populated and more Liberal) because that thin strip of coastal area is pretty much what decides election outcomes for the entire state. It's not much different in California, except I haven't heard of calls to divide California in such a way. Indiana doesn't have a coast, but here the cities like Fort Wayne and Indianapolis do not have enough people to add a decisive pull in election outcomes like Seattle or LA and San Francisco do on the West Coast.

 

[Revoltingest]

....city and state officials are artificially limiting housing to establish a base line population.

How do you know this is policy?

 

[suncowiam]

How do you know this is policy?

Hmmm, I believe I read it from some local news article. To be honest I don't remember specifically, so that could be untrue...

 

[Revoltingest]

Hmmm, I believe I read it from some local news article. To be honest I don't remember specifically, so that could be untrue...

I strongly suspect your're right.
Such an openly stated policy would be highly controversial.

 

[suncowiam]

I strongly suspect your're right.
Such an openly stated policy would be highly controversial.

Well, maybe to outsiders but as you know California is with regular drought and less commonly power outtages when it gets relatively hot. High tech draws considerable amount of power.
I don't mind newcomers but let's ensure we can properly support everyone.

 

[columbus]

Well, maybe to outsiders but as you know California is with regular drought and less commonly power outtages when it gets relatively hot. High tech draws considerable amount of power.
I don't mind newcomers but let's ensure we can properly support everyone.

Let me know if y'all ever manage to extricate yourselves from the Demopublican oligarchy.

That's what I see going on here. I don't expect it to happen, any more than I expect Texas to secede. Texas isn't going to give up the federal bennies that they rely on.

But if any state could do without The Union, it's probably California.
Tom

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't mind newcomers but let's ensure we can properly support everyone.

Cool! Then get to running some people out so there is room for me!

 

[Twilight Hue]

Hmmm, I believe I read it from some local news article. To be honest I don't remember specifically, so that could be untrue...

I think you can pretty much tell just by looking at it and take an educated guess what goes on behind closed doors.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, maybe to outsiders but as you know California is with regular drought and less commonly power outtages when it gets relatively hot. High tech draws considerable amount of power.
I don't mind newcomers but let's ensure we can properly support everyone.

I lived there long enuf to know that if government
enacted a policy of limiting the population to a "base
line" that all holy Hell would break loose in the media.
But then, I knew many in Orange County.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hmmm, I believe I read it from some local news article. To be honest I don't remember specifically, so that could be untrue...

I've read stuff like that before. If it's true, even if it's not official policy "gentrification" isn't official policy anywhere, nor jacking up the cost of living to drive the poor out of a given community, but it happens and we see fancy positive terms like "beautification."

 

[suncowiam]

Cool! Then get to running some people out so there is room for me!

Well, seems like some folks are choosing to move out.

Market is basically deciding that. It's expensive to live here. I'm lucky we settled before these major booms.

 

[suncowiam]

I've read stuff like that before. If it's true, even if it's not official policy "gentrification" isn't official policy anywhere, nor jacking up the cost of living to drive the poor out of a given community, but it happens and we see fancy positive terms like "beautification."

Well, I just mean population but it folks pointing to demographic discrimination could very well be right.

 

[suncowiam]

Let me know if y'all ever manage to extricate yourselves from the Demopublican oligarchy.

That's what I see going on here. I don't expect it to happen, any more than I expect Texas to secede. Texas isn't going to give up the federal bennies that they rely on.

But if any state could do without The Union, it's probably California.
Tom

I personally would not want this. Although I'm a liberal I wouldn't want to support a uber far left state. We need a balance. Plus US had other valuable infrastructure already in place like a standing army.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Market is basically deciding that. It's expensive to live here. I'm lucky we settled before these major booms.

One thing I've found curious, is as long as I don't look directly at LA, but rather surrounding areas, such as the "Inland Empire," what I consistently find online is the cost of living isn't much more than it is here. Not that I'd want to live in a desert, but I found places for rent in the arid/desert Eastern parts that are cheaper than what you can find here. But yet while people are leaving in droves due to cost of living, the average income for my line of work and degree level is about double of what it is here - even with the cost of living, according to a few web sites, apartment rental sites, and other sources, is rather comparable to here with the difference not being all that much higher.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well, I just mean population but it folks pointing to demographic discrimination could very well be right.

As least as how I've observed it here, it's not even an intentional discrimination. We all used to joke that the city made two or three city blocks look nice, planted some trees, and built some stuff up, but go one block over and things are run down and not looking so nice. Today they have an amateur-ball park, new "uppity" apartments (with several more being built), a parking garage, and there is definitely a goal of getting young professionals to move in and more "modern" architecture being put into these new buildings and remodeling. And homeless rates have went up. Some charities are making appeals for more assistance because the demand for their charity has went up. And how couldn't it? Instead of a ball park, a few years ago people living in that area were living down the road from a FEMA designated flood zone.
The only two things I can't find where ends meet is there has not been an increase of availability of professional-level jobs to afford these new condos and apartments, and many professionals (such as the university teachers) work here but live in other cities. Maybe it will take longer for those things to catch up to the gentrification, but most definitely people complaining about the city planting trees in the name of "beautification" instead of helping the poor have valid complaints.

 

[suncowiam]

One thing I've found curious, is as long as I don't look directly at LA, but rather surrounding areas, such as the "Inland Empire," what I consistently find online is the cost of living isn't much more than it is here. Not that I'd want to live in a desert, but I found places for rent in the arid/desert Eastern parts that are cheaper than what you can find here. But yet while people are leaving in droves due to cost of living, the average income for my line of work and degree level is about double of what it is here - even with the cost of living, according to a few web sites, apartment rental sites, and other sources, is rather comparable to here with the difference not being all that much higher.

I hear of different professions flying in from other states just to work during the work week. For example, I hear nurses fly in and live in mobile homes just for work. Medical schedules tend to be longer hours across less amount of days.

 

[Riders]

If they succeed I may end up living there.

 

[Riders]

 

[Underhill]

I say yes they should. Let the rest of America see what a great and wonderful dystopia...eh...society they would make.

I'll remain here and observe.

More nonsense. The whole headline is click bait. "may soon" is a blatant lie as there is literally no chance of it happening.

 

[suncowiam]

One thing I've found curious, is as long as I don't look directly at LA, but rather surrounding areas, such as the "Inland Empire," what I consistently find online is the cost of living isn't much more than it is here. Not that I'd want to live in a desert, but I found places for rent in the arid/desert Eastern parts that are cheaper than what you can find here. But yet while people are leaving in droves due to cost of living, the average income for my line of work and degree level is about double of what it is here - even with the cost of living, according to a few web sites, apartment rental sites, and other sources, is rather comparable to here with the difference not being all that much higher.

Have you visited Northern California?

What is your profession?