Christians can't be Anti-Semitic

[Estro Felino]

Well I don't agree with your assessment of "Bible Student" but I'm asking how that impacts your original post. Christian antisemitism has been directed toward Jews. This is a fact. Calling them "literal Jews" doesn't change that.

I've never denied in any single post that Jews were victims of a millennial Antisemitic persecution.

I HATE-HATE-HATE- that! They are not false Christians. They believed whatever Christians believed in that place and time.

I might add that some of the awful things that they did emulate thing done in the Bible.

I irritates me no end - when Christians don't like the awful things other Christians did in the past, - and so call them "Not real Christians - False Christians, etc.

Most Christians doing bad things in the past - qualified what they did - with the Bible.

You are free to hate that. But I repeat it: they definitely were not true Christians. And I have the right to judge even other Christians of my town. I know who is a real Christian and who is not.

Just to make you understand the concept: a Atheist can act like a Christian and be a Christian in my eyes. A person who goes to Mass on Sunday, but doesn't act like a Christian, is not a Christian in my eyes. I guess my signature sums up the thought,

 

[Estro Felino]

How often does your mother go to a synagogue?

well...my mother reads the Old Testament. That's what makes her Jewish, in her opinion

Christianity is largely a confessional identity. If you believe the creeds, you're basically a Christian. If you do not believe them, you are not. Obviously it gets complicated because of the apostolic question, the Orthodox and Catholic divisions, Protestantism and its derivatives, etc. And obviously, some denominations or individuals within them are deemed apostates by others. But most would agree that belief has much to do with the status.

Judaism is different. I am not a Jew; I've recently started attending a synagogue and exploring Judaism, but I would not call myself Jewish because I am not a convert. Even if I subscribed to the beliefs and practices of the Orthodox (which I do not and will not), that would not change my status. Now I suppose anyone can call themselves Jewish, but the application of the label is not going to change your status, at least not according to the vast majority of Jews. Moreover it is a complicated question internally, both in the US and Israel (and elsewhere) and the subject of significant internal debate.

I would also add that considering oneself Jewish when one is a Christian is extraordinarily problematic, and as I understand it that would absolutely be a bar to conversion in most instances (Levite can correct me if I am wrong).

It's like I said that Protestants are not Christians and only Catholics are. There is a continuity between Judaism and Christianity, without any transition.
and so in Protestantism.

 

[Estro Felino]

Of course.

Ever considered that Runes and other stuff were just ancient Germanic symbols which were used by the NSDAP for propaganda value? Let me guess, no.

So where were the shrines or temples dedicated to Germanic Gods between 1933-1945?
Please don't mention the Wewelsburg.

It's like you said that one thing excludes the other. Of course Hitler was raised as a Catholic, but he was not a true Christian.
He planned to kidnap the Pope when the Nazis occupied Rome. The Gestapo tortured hundreds of Christian priests in all Europe.

and there are too many elements that make us think that his Christianity was full of Neopagan, occult and esoteric influences.

It's like you wanted to defend Hitler by saying that he was a pure holy man
We Christian think he's nothing more than a Satan's servant

 

[Flankerl]

It's like you said that one thing excludes the other. Of course Hitler was raised as a Catholic, but he was not a true Christian.
He planned to kidnap the Pope when the Nazis occupied Rome. The Gestapo tortured hundreds of Christian priests in all Europe.

But then again bad and sometimes horrible treatment of fellow Christians is as Christian as the Trinity.
For reference look into the early Church and why over time only the Catholic belief remained.

and there are too many elements that make us think that his Christianity was full of Neopagan, occult and esoteric influences.

There you don't see it. Religion didn't matter. Nationalsocialism doesn't need a Religion as the Party, State and People are everything.

It's like you wanted to defend Hitler by saying that he was a pure holy man
We Christian think he's nothing more than a Satan's servant

I actually never claimed that Hitler was a devout Christian or even a Christian Saint.

There is a continuity between Judaism and Christianity, without any transition.

Like what?

 

[Estro Felino]

For reference look into the early Church and why over time only the Catholic belief remained.

Only in the early Church period? eh eh...
The Catholic Church persecuted pagans, Christian heretics, and when the Reformation took place, there was the massacre of Saint Barthélemy, in Paris, when thousands of Calvinists were slaughtered. Not to mention the massacres during the 30 years war.
so? as I said, devilish people can use Christianity to obey the devil. I can't help it.

A great misconception about Catholicism is that people think that we have 2000 years of history. Of course not. We reject the history of our Church and all our priests restlessly tell us that the Catholic Church is 50 years old. It begins with the Second Vatican Council

There you don't see it. Religion didn't matter. Nationalsocialism doesn't need a Religion as the Party, State and People are everything.

That's what I said from the very first. Hitler was the Grundnorm, Hitler was God, Hitler was everything. There was no place for any god.

 

[gsa]

Off topic but I disagree. Those creeds were formulated to some degree to exclude Gnostic Christians such as myself.

Fair enough. Still, the main point stands: You become a Christian, of whatever variety, largely based on your belief system. Few Christians believe that you are born into the religion, except nominally. This is not how many other religions work.

It's like I said that Protestants are not Christians and only Catholics are. There is a continuity between Judaism and Christianity, without any transition.
and so in Protestantism.

Protestants are Christians. Even the Catholic Church recognizes Protestants as Christians. The continuity that exists between Protestantism and Catholicism is found in Christian creeds, while there is discontinuity between Jewish and Christian beliefs and practices.

The only example that I can think of that would even come close is claiming that Muslims are Christians, even though they have largely discarded the vast majority of Christian beliefs and practices. Ultimately, Christians get to make that call (and most would say they are not Christians), just as Jews get to make the call with Christians who claim that they are Jewish. This is really more about maintaining a respectful relationship, and recognizing that the Jewish tradition is distinct from Christianity and always has been.

 

[Estro Felino]

What makes me really suffer is that there was not even a answer of Love from any Jew here.
My thread didn't mean to debate about the "Jewishness" of Christianity. The title itself clearly says that the thread is about Anti-Semitism.

and a Christian if they want to consider themselves Christian, can never be against any person, or any nation, or any religion of the world.
What makes me suffer is that lots of people who are not Christians, including Jews, don't understand how much Christians love.
Christians love people because we believe that God is not external. God is in any person, so we can never hurt anyone. Because if we did, we would hurt God.

so, if you Jews want to judge Christianity, please, do judge this vision of God. Do not judge the mistakes and the crimes committed by Christians across 2 millennia.

That's why we had to reform Judaism. Because Judaism didn't say that God is in any human being. And Jesus proved it.

 

[nazz]

What makes me suffer is that lots of people who are not Christians, including Jews, don't understand how much Christians love

maybe because they see so few examples of that

 

[Levite]

What makes me really suffer is that there was not even a answer of Love from any Jew here.
My thread didn't mean to debate about the "Jewishness" of Christianity. The title itself clearly says that the thread is about Anti-Semitism.

Yes, but you started out by introducing the idea of a Christian claiming Jewish identity, and then you proceeded to defend it vigorously. In a spectacular show of irony, you began a thread purporting to be critical of anti-Semitism which you then used to support ideas which are historical hallmarks of anti-Semitism.

What makes me suffer is that lots of people who are not Christians, including Jews, don't understand how much Christians love.

Maybe we'll believe it if we ever see it.

Christians love people because we believe that God is not external. God is in any person, so we can never hurt anyone.

Actually, Judaism does teach that there is a spark of the divine at the heart of the soul. But that's different than there being no separation between people and God. God is not a person. People are not God. Saying otherwise tends to lead to worshipping people.

so, if you Jews want to judge Christianity, please, do judge this vision of God. Do not judge the mistakes and the crimes committed by Christians across 2 millennia.

Nope. When the overwhelming majority of Christian history is full of anti-Semitism and oppression, we're not going to judge Christianity by a theological vision that nearly nobody appears to have held by and lived out.

How about this: get the majority of Christianity to embrace your ideal theological vision, and for the next two millennia, have the overwhelming majority of Christendom treat everyone-- Jews included-- with absolute respect, love, and compassion. Then we'll talk.

That's why we had to reform Judaism. Because Judaism didn't say that God is in any human being. And Jesus proved it.

Christianity didn't reform Judaism, it's a new religion altogether. It's not Judaism. It's not a reformed Judaism. It's another religion. Christians aren't Jews. Just because Jesus was a Jew doesn't mean that everyone who now worships Jesus is somehow also a Jew.

 

[Estro Felino]

How about this: get the majority of Christianity to embrace your ideal theological vision, and for the next two millennia, have the overwhelming majority of Christendom treat everyone-- Jews included-- with absolute respect, love, and compassion. Then we'll talk..

well...all right. I certainly will try, brother. I guess that the Catholic Church already showed it has changed a lot. but, it is not enough, I recognize it.

Christianity didn't reform Judaism, it's a new religion altogether. It's not Judaism. It's not a reformed Judaism. It's another religion. Christians aren't Jews. Just because Jesus was a Jew doesn't mean that everyone who now worships Jesus is somehow also a Jew.

once again: you are totally right. I would never dare claim that we are not another religion. But you should look things from the perspective of those Jews who became Christians in the 1st century AD:

From the Acts of the apostles: 15
When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16 “‘After this I will return
and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’—
18 things known from long ago.

19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.

In other words: these apostles opened Judaism to Gentiles.
Is it our fault ?

 

[gsa]

What makes me really suffer is that there was not even a answer of Love from any Jew here.
My thread didn't mean to debate about the "Jewishness" of Christianity. The title itself clearly says that the thread is about Anti-Semitism..

I assure you, we did not bring the alleged Jewishness of modern Christianity to the forefront. You quoted your mother to that effect, in the opening post Thus suggesting that Christians, or at least "true Christians" could not be anti-Semitic. So the two matters were tied together at the very beginning of the conversation.

and a Christian if they want to consider themselves Christian, can never be against any person, or any nation, or any religion of the world.

This is your very unique approach to the definition of Christian, which can conveniently exclude the entire Catholic Church, along with virtually every version of Protestantism or Orthodoxy. No doubt there are Muslims making the same claims. Let's just agree that when we are talking about Christians, we mean self-professed Christians. Understood this way, you can see why no one believes Christianity is incapable of anti-Semitism.

What makes me suffer is that lots of people who are not Christians, including Jews, don't understand how much Christians love.
Christians love people because we believe that God is not external. God is in any person, so we can never hurt anyone. Because if we did, we would hurt God.

History tells a different story. Additionally, the immanence of God is affirmed in a number of traditions, many of which are far more unambiguously nonviolent, to the point of prohibiting consumption of meat. Also, you will have a hard time convincing ex-Christians (like myself) that Christianity follows this practice in any meaningful or consistent way. If you can't convince former Christians, you are unlikely to persuade outsiders. Food for thought.

I do agree that some Christians follow this reasoning, but not all, not even most.

so, if you Jews want to judge Christianity, please, do judge this vision of God. Do not judge the mistakes and the crimes committed by Christians across 2 millennia.

This criticism is not just coming from Jews. Non-Jews, including Christians, are perfectly capable of disagreeing with what you are writing. Also, this may just reflect language issues, but "you Jews" is not a good way to address your critics in this forum.

That's why we had to reform Judaism. Because Judaism didn't say that God is in any human being. And Jesus proved it.

Sigh. Levite has responded already, but let me make the following additional points:

1. It is true that the group of people who would come to be known as Christians began as a stream of Jewish thought, at a time when there were a variety of sects and messianic claimants. Likewise, Buddhism shares some similarities to Hinduism because the two traditions have a similar point of origin. But it would be ridiculous to call Buddhism a "reform" of Hinduism, and it is equally ridiculous to call Christianity a "reform" of Judaism. There are at least as many differences as similarities, and probably more of the former than latter.

2. Christianity began as a stream within Judaism, sure, but it was evangelical, and part of outreach to Gentiles required discarding a significant number of beliefs and corresponding rules that had developed within Judaism. t some point, probably a relatively early point, it became clear that Christians were better at winning Gentile converts than they were at convincing Jews that Jesus was the messiah. Some Christians were also clearly opposed to Judaism and rejected the Jewish God altogether (the Gnostic stream, later deemed heretical). As the early Christian community dealt with these conflicts, the creeds were developed, and by this time Christianity was altogether distinct.

3. Incidentally, I think it is unwise to talk about what Judaism teaches when you are basing your understanding of Judaism on a Christian critique of Judaism. At a minimum, you should familiarize yourself with modern Jewish beliefs and practices. If you want to promote mutual understanding, you need to familiarize yourself with the group of people you are trying to start a conversation with.

4. Finally, telling people that Christianity is not anti-Semitic, while also claiming that Christianity is an improvement upon Judaism, is going to be a hard sell given the history under the best of circumstances. But unless you actually know something about the tradition you claim Christianity is reforming, it is a nonstarter.

I am not trying to be unduly harsh, as I do not think that you are being intentionally obtuse here. But I suggest that you reflect a little on what others have been saying in this discussion, and reconsider your own position accordingly.

 

[gsa]

once again: you are totally right. I would never dare claim that we are not another religion. But you should look things from the perspective of those Jews who became Christians in the 1st century AD:

In other words: these apostles opened Judaism to Gentiles.
Is it our fault ?

Look at it this way: I once told a Catholic friend, when I was still at least a nominal Christian, that I rather liked many of the teachings of Jesus, but that I did not believe he was God, did not believe in substitutionary atonement, did not believe he was the messiah, did not believe in the Trinity, did not believe in the inerrancy or infallibility of scripture, did not believe in the resurrection, did not believe that Jesus even planned to found a new religion, did not really care for Paul, and I certainly did not believe in the Virgin Birth or any of the alleged miracles performed, nor did I believe in Heaven or Hell or Satan or demons. My friend told me, “You should start a new religion and call it Yeshuanity then, because it sure as hell isn’t Christianity.”

And he is right. If you subtract those elements, you have Jesus as a teacher, in essence. An interesting story, maybe, but not Christianity. But the thing is, if you take Judaism and add those elements to it, you do not have Judaism, you have a different religion altogether.

Do I think that the early Christians knew that was what they were doing? No, but they also believed that the end of the world was imminent and they were looking for a pragmatic way to bring Gentiles in, which in time resulted in Gentiles taking over, and which also resulted, over a longer period of time, in a substantial drift away from Judaism.

Like Hinduism and Buddhism, Judaism and Christianity share a vocabulary, and some history. But they are not the same. And part of the problem with what you are writing is that it does not exist in a vacuum, but against the backdrop of thousands of years of anti-Jewish persecution at the hands of Christendom, which basically culminated in the most horrific genocide carried out to date, as well as a current “Messianic Judaism” movement that is basically evangelical Christians posing as Jews to win Jewish converts.

No one is blaming you for what the apostles did or suggesting that you should abandon Christianity. We’re just suggesting that you acknowledge that Christianity and Judaism are distinct, Christians are not Jews, and Christians are capable of anti-Semitism.

 

[Estro Felino]

I was hoping that only (or at least mainly) Christians joined this debate. Because my purpose was to tell Christians that we must love Jews for the common values we share.
In fact I don't agree with my mother: we are 2 different religions. But I do agree with anyone claiming that we Christians and Jews share a similar values system.

and on the contrary, only Jews and Atheists replied, who completely misunderstood my intentions.
as if I had malicious intentions

 

[nazz]

I was hoping that only (or at least mainly) Christians joined this debate. Because my purpose was to tell Christians that we must love Jews for the common values we share.
In fact I don't agree with my mother: we are 2 different religions. But I do agree with anyone claiming that we Christians and Jews share a similar values system.

and on the contrary, only Jews and Atheists replied, who completely misunderstood my intentions.
and they labeled them as malicious.

What am I? chopped liver?

 

[gsa]

I was hoping that only (or at least mainly) Christians joined this debate. Because my purpose was to tell Christians that we must love Jews for the common values we share.
In fact I don't agree with my mother: we are 2 different religions. But I do agree with anyone claiming that we Christians and Jews share a similar values system.

and on the contrary, only Jews and Atheists replied, who completely misunderstood my intentions.
as if I had malicious intentions

Nazz is a Gnostic Christian, and I'm neither Jewish nor an atheist. I also said that I didn't think your intentions were malicious.

 

[Ingledsva]

It's like you said that one thing excludes the other. Of course Hitler was raised as a Catholic, but he was not a true Christian.
He planned to kidnap the Pope when the Nazis occupied Rome. The Gestapo tortured hundreds of Christian priests in all Europe.

and there are too many elements that make us think that his Christianity was full of Neopagan, occult and esoteric influences.

It's like you wanted to defend Hitler by saying that he was a pure holy man
We Christian think he's nothing more than a Satan's servant

Hitler made a pact with the church.

-Concordat of 1933, Art. 16.-

"Before bishops take possession of their dioceses they are to take an oath...

.."Before God and on the Holy Gospels I swear and promise, as becomes a bishop, loyalty to the German Reich and to the State of . . . . I swear and promise to honor the legally constituted government and to cause the clergy of my diocese to honor it. In the performance of my spiritual office and in my solicitude for the welfare and the interests of the German Reich, I will endeavor to avoid all detrimental acts which might endanger it." . . . . " The Role of the Churches: Compliance and Confrontation

Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.” Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party.

Due to his annulment of the financial problems of the Germanic people, they anointed him leader of the German Reich Christian Church in 1933. This placed him in power of the German Christian Socialist movement which legislates their political and religious agendas. It united all denominations, mainly the Protestant/Catholic and Lutheran people to instill faith in a national Christianity.

"The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice … And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."

–Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Here is an interesting fact - The monastery school Hitler attended, had a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms, which included a swastika.

PS. Judaism and Christianity have always been full of occult and esoteric influences.


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[ChristineES]

Even if Hitler was the most devout Catholic, that still doesn't mean anything: It's irrelevent. He didn't follow Jesus commands, he was in charge of exterminating millions of people. Yeshua certainly didn't teach any of that. I can call myself a dog, but that doesn't mean I am a dog. It is written:
James 2:19 You believe that there is one God, you do well; even the demons believe and tremble.

 

[roger1440]

well...my mother reads the Old Testament. That's what makes her Jewish, in her opinion



It's like I said that Protestants are not Christians and only Catholics are. There is a continuity between Judaism and Christianity, without any transition.
and so in Protestantism.

I didn't know being Jewish was a matter of opinion. Thanks for the info.

 

[dust1n]

Like what support? And no not only recent one. Support from 1947.

I say this not as some sort of disproof or proof of anything else, but in terms of support:

"Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel's often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel's annual debt repayment to the United States. Unlike other countries, which receive aid in quarterly installments, aid to Israel since 1982 has been given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year, leaving the U.S. government to borrow from future revenues. Israel even lends some of this money back through U.S. treasury bills and collects the additional interest.

In addition, there is the more than $1.5 billion in private U.S. funds that go to Israel annually in the form of $1 billion in private tax-deductible donations and $500 million in Israeli bonds. The ability of Americans to make what amounts to tax-deductible contributions to a foreign government, made possible through a number of Jewish charities, does not exist with any other country. Nor do these figures include short- and long-term commercial loans from U.S. banks, which have been as high as $1 billion annually in recent years.

Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes. Indeed, Israel's GNP is higher than the combined GNP of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, the West Bank and Gaza. With a per capita income of about $14,000, Israel ranks as the sixteenth wealthiest country in the world; Israelis enjoy a higher per capita income than oil-rich Saudi Arabia and are only slightly less well-off than most Western European countries."

U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact | Congress & U.S. Aid to Israel

 

[Estro Felino]

Hitler made a pact with the church.

-Concordat of 1933, Art. 16.-

"Before bishops take possession of their dioceses they are to take an oath...

.."Before God and on the Holy Gospels I swear and promise, as becomes a bishop, loyalty to the German Reich and to the State of . . . . I swear and promise to honor the legally constituted government and to cause the clergy of my diocese to honor it. In the performance of my spiritual office and in my solicitude for the welfare and the interests of the German Reich, I will endeavor to avoid all detrimental acts which might endanger it." . . . . " The Role of the Churches: Compliance and Confrontation

Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.” Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party.

Due to his annulment of the financial problems of the Germanic people, they anointed him leader of the German Reich Christian Church in 1933. This placed him in power of the German Christian Socialist movement which legislates their political and religious agendas. It united all denominations, mainly the Protestant/Catholic and Lutheran people to instill faith in a national Christianity.

"The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice … And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."

–Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Here is an interesting fact - The monastery school Hitler attended, had a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms, which included a swastika.

PS. Judaism and Christianity have always been full of occult and esoteric influences.


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Wow...can't you see how good Hitler was at acting?
He was terrific...the best actor ever. He exploited the Christian religious sentiment to infuse more Judenhass to the people. But he didn't give a damn about religion

can't you see how hypocritical is? He says that he is like Christ crucified by the Jews. Actually the history tells otherwise:

the Jews have always been the victims. The Jews were the ones crucified unjustly, just like Jesus.
so in the Christian perspective, the Jews are the ones who deserve Heaven as martyrs. Hitler is the one who will stay in hell forever