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Culture clash in the hallway

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.lava

.lava

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Father Heathen said:
But the unjustified Iraqi war and the criminal abuses of Abu Gharib have been already been debated and denounced to death on this board. Also the U.S. is often at odds with the rest of the western world so you cannot cluster them all together when it comes to attitudes and ideology. And how is "The West" as a whole to blame for the Israeli vs. Palestine conflict? Those perpetuating the violence are the ones with the weapons in their hands (or strapped to their chest, as the case may be).
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do you think that answers my question?





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.lava

.lava

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themadhair said:
If you have thought about it then you should be able to answer your own question.
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my question? :confused: i do not have a question. you asked me a question and i answered with no words. let me say it using words. you must hear about wrong doings of Muslims, you shall never know about other side of the coin, you must think that all odd behavours and wrong doings of Muslims are rooted and caused by Islam....so...that kind of American soldiers would have freedom to torture us. instead of asking why those Westerns lied to get in Iraq, how come they gave themselves right to establish a government for Muslims, how come they have great relationships with Saudi while they ruin por Afghan, how come yur media and people forget about Iraqi KIDS!!! were tortured by Western people, how come American troops established 'rape rooms' to make Iraqi women talk, how come thos who torture Iraqi men actually walk free and even write their memories and make money ou of their crulty......etc etc etc...and you come and say making an official statement belongs to dark ages. shall we really talk about dark ages, my friend? if yes, then do not tell me you are not American, do not tell me it is all in the past as if last decade of this world happened in 1st world war and do not tell me you are civilized and Muslims are not. reality is out there!







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.lava

.lava

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Father Heathen said:
It should. Injustice is always bad no matter who is committing it. No one is arguing otherwise.
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well, it does not. yes nobody is arguing otherwise. but Western troops are still killing Muslims in their own land and here you are complaining about a Muslim who refuses to talk his neighbour.





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Panda

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.lava said:
well, it does not. yes nobody is arguing otherwise. but Western troops are still killing Muslims in their own land and here you are complaining about a Muslim who refuses to talk his neighbour.
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If you are talking about Iraq (which we are no longer in) then lots of us were extremely against the war there.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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.lava said:
well, it does not. yes nobody is arguing otherwise. but Western troops are still killing Muslims in their own land and here you are complaining about a Muslim who refuses to talk his neighbour.
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One, you over simplify the whole "killing muslims in their own land" thing. You the mean the same radical insurgents that car bomb a market place full of innocent Muslim civilians? While I obviously don't agree with their deployment and presence, U.S. soldiers only engage hostile forces, which is usually radical extremists who would probably cut your fingers off for using a computer instead of being in the kitchen fixing a meal for the menfolk.
Most people on RF have repeatedly denounced the war. What more do you want?

And the problem isn't that the guy "refuses to talk to his neighbor", but that he was rude and hostile over an innocent and friendly greeting. He impolitely and inappropriately treated his neighbor as if was guilty of committing some grave offense even though everything he did was within the acceptable social norms of that country.
 
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.lava

.lava

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Father Heathen said:
And the problem isn't that the guy "refuses to talk to his neighbor", but that he was rude and hostile over a innocent and friendly greeting. He impolitely and inappropriately treated his neighbor as if was guilty of committing some grave offense even though everything he did was within the acceptable social norms of that country.
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so what? he has his reasons. like some Canadian would have his on reasons to be rude to another. yea people could be strange. there are rude people all over. we have rude Westen people here but i would not make a thread about them. but i'll give you an example. there is a American army base in the Eastern Turkey. therefor many American men live around there. once one American troop shot his gun from his window to a kid because little boy was looking at his motorcycle and touching it. is this rude enough to you? have you ever even heard about it? NO! you would not. shooting at a kid to make him go away from our cars or our stuff is not our social norm, my friend.

so he was impolite, rude....so what? i would not like that but i do not understand why this incident worths making a thread or news while Western do much worse. i do not understand why all of a sudden everyone talks about Western as if they are all so polite. you do not need a grave offense to keep distance with people. you have your reasons or excuses and i would have mine and he has his own. what's the big deal? oh he was rude so he should leave the country!! he belongs to dark ages!!...that is just funny!!






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Zephyr

Zephyr

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If somebody somewhere does something bad, then it is perfectly acceptable for me to be just as evil.

Edit: You people sicken me.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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.lava said:
we have rude Westen people here but i would not make a thread about them.
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Why not? I would be interested in hearing about them.
oh he was rude so he should leave the country!!
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No one is saying he should leave the country because he was rude. People are asking why would he bother moving to a country in the first place if he found their culture and customs so highly offensive and intolerable and cause trouble over it?
 
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.lava

.lava

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Father Heathen said:
No one is saying he should leave the country because he was rude. People are asking why would someone bother moving to a country in the first place if they find their culture and customs so highly offensive and intolerable and cause trouble over it?
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i don't know. why would Western go Saudi Arabia and live there even though they hate Sharia?





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Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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.lava said:
i don't know. why would Western go Saudi Arabia and live there even though they hate Sharia?
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Do they keep their opinions to themselves and stay out of trouble or do they actively seek out confrontations with the locals over their practice of sharia?
 
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