Koldo
Outstanding Member
Why did you feel insulted ? Isn't the term quite fitting ?
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Do you as a Muslim believe in women's equality?
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Why did you feel insulted ? Isn't the term quite fitting ?
It doesn't surprise me that inequality doesn't matter to you, but I don't really consider your opinion that valuable or reliable. I'm more interested in what others, especially Muslim women, think about this issue.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
Patriarchal constructs that oppress women are far more prevalent, particularly within Islamic cultures.
Feel as you wish. It lessens my resentment no less.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
I've not projected that women always make less than men. I've stated that women often make less than men and I've acknowledged variances in different cultures, nations, etc.
Your jab at women who mismanage money in this post is telling. Your posts clearly speak to irreverence towards the genuine struggle and oppression that women do indeed face and often at the hands of egotistical men.
If you'd bothered to read my responses carefully, you'd know that I've specifically referenced those women who are required to act or behave within an assigned and pre-described gender role construct and those who receive unfair treatment - with a man making more money for the same role serving as an example.
I've yet to see women deduce men to slaves behind fabric for their own pleasure and control under the guise of religion.
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Draka
Wonder Woman
If one finds the truth "insulting" then perhaps one needs to reevaluate some things in their life.
amir soltani
New Member
Islam says:
Women should not do anything that men betray their wives and daughters not to have sex for someone to marry
This is especially true for women
Women should not do anything that men betray their wives and daughters not to have sex for someone to marry
This is especially true for women
Draka
Wonder Woman
Would it be equally as "logical" then to not permit men to drive as that gives them more freedom to get around and thus increase the chance of them committing adultery?
Women are considered guilty of adultery when they are raped in certain countries. Simply saying "don't commit it" isn't exactly easy when you can be held as guilty of something you refused to do. When the actual person guilty of something is a man and he gets off the hook because the woman is considered guilty.
I mean, let's just face it, there are certain laws in place that are there to pretty much excuse savage behavior from men by placing the blame for those hideous actions upon women. Women can't wear this, women can't go there, women shouldn't hold these jobs alongside men...because basically...men can't control themselves. And if a woman was attacked or hurt or anything...well that was obviously her fault for being there in the first place.
Just exactly what is wrong with women having the expectation of being treated equally? As human beings? With expecting men to behave as civilized creatures not led about by their "machismo"? A woman is just as intelligent, just as capable, just as efficient as a man. Should she not be able to live the life she chooses just like men do? Whether that means working as a construction worker or deciding to stay home with children, as men have that choice as well. In many cases a woman may be more equipped to bring in a better and more comfortable income to live on than her husband. Her education or abilities better than his. So, really, the couple would both be fool to think that, just because she is a woman, she shouldn't work or that she should be the one to stay home with the children. If one were to stay home with the kids, in that situation, it should clearly be the man and let the woman bring home the bacon.
Frankly, your ideas really are misogynistic, extremely out-dated, and truly offensive to men and women alike.
Looncall
Well-Known Member
Thanks for showing that not all the barbarians are muslims. The same vile oppression, though.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
No
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
You means power and money I suppose?
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Yes, women ''often'' make less than men. That says it all. Very telling where your thoughts are.
''mismanage money'' I don't recall, but carry on please.....
What kind of struggle? Men supporting you? Is that a struggle? Oh, I guess you mean having freedom from men now we have made a suitably easy climate for you to express yourselves in.
Most jobs women do not make less than men, that is a fallicy. Some women make more. I don't see them jumping up and down shouting ''equality, equality''. Do you? But the equality is all about having more not less isn't it...haha
I assume you mean 'reduce' ? I'v yet to see women protect men with their own lives or work for them so they can stay at home, without ridiculing them. As for ''under the guise of religion'' you make that sound as it is only believers who do bad things. Not so, surely you know that. Anyway, there is a masculine that is the stronger and a feminine that is the weaker. we have roles to play. It is women that wanted out of that for power and money. It has not helped society even if men now are for it.... protecting their own interests.
I know of women that brag about the fact that in their shop NO men work. So why should I feel sorry for women when it turns out the kettle is just as black as the pot?
Koldo
Outstanding Member
How come? You think that women are less reliable witnesses ( "because they lie gossip and slander too much" ) and that they shouldn't have economic independence from males.
That is misogyny, whether you like it or not.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Or perhaps stop insulting and saying things that arn't true....hmmm
Since when has the truth that I speak, which has been that way for generations, become wrong? Since feminism and mummy's-boys arrived.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Thankyou for showing you are controlled by the feminine spirit and cannot discuss. Thankyou for showing that you stick with mainstream thought to save you thinking and getting a backbone.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
''misogyny'' is hatred of women. So you are wrong ! I coudl say you are lying, but you mihgt just be mistaken, whether YOU like it or not.
Christianity has already had its own benighted period that literally took hundreds of years to be mitigated. We can still see what influenced the clergy in the Dark Ages to support witch hunts and misogyny when we read Christian scriptures, however. That includes the commandment that women remain silent in church.
Oh, by the way, the verse is there in big, bold letters in your so-called "holy" book:
1 Corinthians 14:34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.
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This is either a display of pretending not to realize something or a display of downright delusion.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
It is also prejudice against women. Which you have made clearly apparent on your posts.