Do you pirate movies online?

[Don Penguinoini]

Then what? They wouldn't care. They say, buy the movie or don't watch it. The only motvie for copyrighting is money. So they give money to see it. Its all money.

 

[Smoke]

I would like to add, in this country at least, it IS legal to make ONE backup copy of a DVD movie you own in case the original is lost or stolen, but the backup must be stored securely away and never used unless the aforementioned events occur.

I'm not sure it's clear in the U.S. When it comes to music CDs, RIAA argues that backing up your CDs is copyright infringement, and that if something happens to your CD you can always buy another one.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Then what? They wouldn't care. They say, buy the movie or don't watch it. The only motvie for copyrighting is money. So they give money to see it. Its all money.

No one is denying that Hollywood is full of money-hungry executives who mostly "phone-in" scripts for big-budget blockbusters. They exist, sure........but the motive for having copyrighted material is protection for the original artist. It's one of the reasons why I can't arrange to perform Aida on stage and call myself the writer/creator of the show. There has to be basic protections granted to the varying artists in the field so they are given the proper credit they deserve.

And when someone else is profitting off a stolen idea, it opens up an entirely new market that allows the money-hungry/power-hungry monopolies in the performance arts to really do whatever they want then. The copyrights are there to protect the smaller industries more so than the Warner Brothers, the New Lines, the Paramounts, the Universals, and the Disney/PIXAR giants in the field. Take them away, and they will crush whatever collaborations between artists they feel is too much competition.............those ideas will be stolen and fashioned away at their own disposal.

At least with varying film festivals around the country, production companies have the opportunity to actually buy the rights from the original films' creators if they like the ideas. But we must keep the rights in place anyway.

I certainly hope this isn't taking the thread too far off-topic.




Peace,
Mystic

 

[Don Penguinoini]

For the small people, i see why copyright is there, i cant blame em. But the biggies need it so no-one profits of them.

 

[vandervalley]

For the small people, i see why copyright is there, i cant blame em. But the biggies need it so no-one profits of them.

What would you do in you are one of the biggies?

Are you sure you won't be corrupted by the greed for money?

 

[kadzbiz]

....If you have a link to the article then I would be very interested. ......

After spending ages trying to find the relevant article, I see that Kungfuzed has already posted it.

 

[FFH]

It's all about the money, that is a fact!I agree! Nutshell doesn't see this, however. We are forking out money while they make billions, fair?!

The Lord said it best in this LDS inspired scripture.

Been pondering this scripture for the last few weeks. It seems to apply here to a certain degree.

Doctrine and Covenants 49: 20 (LDS scripture)
But it is not given that one man should possess that which is above another, wherefore the world lieth in sin.

 

[yossarian22]

By that reasoning, I should already own every CD and DVD that I never downloaded.

And you came to this conclusion how?

Seems legal to me.

I think they have permission from the car manufacturer. Or maybe the open sourced the blue-prints. They would be ****** off if it was a car they released this year.

Watermelons copy themselves.

mp3 files don't. (normally)

If I grow my own watermelon I am taking a sale from a farmer.

Anybody can grow a watermelon. The farmer is simply saving you time. I doubt you could create a blockbuster movie

As for copying a movie, it's easily done with a computer. The poor farmer, however, doesn't have millions of dollars to sue everyone who wants to plant their own garden. Farming does take alot of time, hard work, and financial investment.

Exactly. Its the time it takes to cultivate the plant which is why you are being charged. The farmer saves you time. It is not the physical melon he charges you for, it is the time it takes to produce said melon. It takes a great deal of time and effort to record a song
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I do that. But radio stations only play one or two select songs off of each CD, just the best ones, then when I go out and buy it I discover the rest of the CD is crap.[/quote]
Then download one track off of iTunes. A good chunk of it has no restrictions now

What pirating can do for people is give them a chance to share their music and movie collection with others so we can all sample what we like and know what CD or movie is worth paying for.

Horse****
Piracy is about saving money.

I work for a cable company, and have a DVR that was provided to me by them and that any customer with digital cable can have. I can record any movie or TV show I want in digital format and watch it whenever I want. It even has a USB port on the back to hook up a computer and make backups. Is the cable company not file sharing? Is this no different than recording a song off the radio or downloading it off the net? How is a DVR or Tivo not illegal but file sharing is?

Because you pay for the content that the cable company gives you (presumably)

I could never create a watermelon from scratch even if I were a biologist. All I can do is make copies by planting seeds and watering them. My computer can rip a CD into any format I want easily.

I doubt you could make a CD from scratch either.

Talent. I have no musical ability whatsoever and that's the main thing stopping me from taking another's idea and building on it.

Talent and time. That is what you pay for when you buy a movie or song.
Piracy saves money. Its not about some sort idealist drivel nor is it morally correct. Its theft. It saves money.

 

[Jon²]

I don't pirate movies. Not because I have some problem with it, but because I'm so anal about things like that... I want the packaging/artwork and the best quality available.

 

[kadzbiz]

I don't pirate movies. Not because I have some problem with it, but because I'm so anal about things like that... I want the packaging/artwork and the best quality available.

I'm a movie maker myself. It's not all that hard to create, or re-create such things.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

For the small people, i see why copyright is there, i cant blame em. But the biggies need it so no-one profits of them.

Exactly. But, the point is that everyone needs it. That's why copyright laws are in place.




Peace,
Mystic

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Well, they dont NEED it (the big fish). They just need it so they make maximum profit. Nevertheless, the small ones need it, and i would never pirate from a small director, they need all the profit they can get. The Steven Spielbergs of Hollywood dont lose much from us. The point is, i would not have seen it, or bought (unless its AMAZING) it in the first place.

 

[nutshell]

The Steven Spielbergs of Hollywood dont lose much from us.

Finally! An admission that even the books boys suffer some injury. Do you think it's OK to steal from the rich? Can you break into their homes and take something if the rich person doesn't "lose much????"

The point is, i would not have seen it, or bought (unless its AMAZING) it in the first place.

And yet you still get the benefit of it?
You're getting something for nothing - and that's wrong.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Finally! An admission that even the books boys suffer some injury. Do you think it's OK to steal from the rich? Can you break into their homes and take something if the rich person doesn't "lose much????"

Im not stealing at all. They would not have got it in the first place. It happens because i have the resources to see these movies.

And yet you still get the benefit of it?
You're getting something for nothing - and that's wrong.

Once again... If i didn't have the resources i wouldn't watch the movies at all. I would just, watch a trailer and thats enough.:sarcastic:cover:

 

[nutshell]

Im not stealing at all. They would not have got it in the first place. It happens because i have the resources to see these movies.

Actually, pirating is stealing.

Once again... If i didn't have the resources i wouldn't watch the movies at all. I would just, watch a trailer and thats enough.:sarcastic:cover:

But you did download Beowulf, right??? So you benefitted and gave nothing in return. What's that called?

 

[Don Penguinoini]

I never downloaded Beowulf, i streamed it... I never download films. I know pirating is stealing. Its also an exagguration

 

[nutshell]

I never downloaded Beowulf, i streamed it... I never download films. I know pirating is stealing. Its also an exagguration

Wow, you're really on thin ice here. The point I'm making is you got something for nothing. That's true whether you downloaded it or streamed it.

Also, I know we shouldn't be uptight about spelling, but if you're going to boldand italicize and underline a word, at least get the spelling right.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

The spelling bit, im sorry, that was terrible, should have got that right. I got something for nothing, right, i consider that luck. I like something for nothing. If someone offers me a pot of gold for no reason for free, would you take it? I would.

 

[nutshell]

The spelling bit, im sorry, that was terrible, should have got that right. I got something for nothing, right, i consider that luck. I like something for nothing. If someone offers me a pot of gold for no reason for free, would you take it? I would.

But here's the kicker: You didn't receive an offer from the true owner, you received an illegal offer - one you cannot legally accept.

It's no different than if I stole one of Fluffy's cars (lets say Fluffy is mega-rich and won't even miss it) and than "offered" it to you for free. Do you really think you can accept the car?

 

[Don Penguinoini]

This is a little different to stealing a car nutshell. If i didn't now it was Fluffy's car, then yeah! Why not? Look, i cant justify it with the law, neither can you, since you don't follow all the laws of your country you cant advise another on law. The point is, its all to do with mone.