mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I am not an atheist. Now you need spanking to be corrected as you didn't tell the Truth. I speak the Truth and you need spanking for speaking false.
I am not an atheist.
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Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?
- Thread starter Nakosis
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I am not an atheist. Now you need spanking to be corrected as you didn't tell the Truth. I speak the Truth and you need spanking for speaking false.
I am not an atheist.
muhammad_isa
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Probably not .. but she can get him imprisoned .. that's much better, isn't it?
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I think that misogynistic men would do well to keep their mouths shut and not reveal their true colors.
SkepticThinker
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Can she though? Or would that be considered getting up on her "high horse?"
SkepticThinker
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Winner, winner! Chicken dinner!
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
He called me an atheist earlier in this thread because I'm also challenging his Islamic beliefs and sexist views of women.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Ha .. very amusing.
In @mikkel_the_dane's scenario, woman could spank men
It's a nonsense.
The time will come, when a woman will not be able to find a husband .. there will be many, many women, and very few men.
..and that is what satan does .. he promises happiness, but does not deliver the goods
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Don't whine.
When I asked you about your gods, you declined to answer.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I don't know who you think you are, but you can't tell me what to do.
If you don't like what I say, then that's tough and you can stick your opinion where the sun doesn't shine.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
If the men these unmarried women encounter hold the same misogynistic and male-chauvinist views of women as muhammad_isa has displayed in this thread, then these women would be better off not marrying. If an unmarried woman has any self-respect, then she wouldn't have anything to do with any man who views her as inferior to himself and believes that a wife should obey her husband and be submissive to him. If fact, any man who expresses his belief that women are inferior to men and should obey their husbands doesn't deserve any respect and should be outright rejected and publicly shunned.
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muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Now you're just being rude .. calm down
..and I'm not telling you what to do .. just my opinion.
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muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Ah .. is that what it is all about?
I have never claimed that a man is superior to a woman.
G-d created them both. He wants them to live happily in paradise together forever after.
..but you insist that you know better.
That is how Lucifer became satan .. he thought that he was better, and puffed up with pride.
I don't claim to be better .. I'm just sharing my opinion with people.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Now you're just being rude .. calm down
..and I'm not what telling you what to do .. just my opinion.
No, I don't think I will. And as I told you earlier, you have zero credibility with me. In other words, I don't think much of your opinion.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Well, sometimes I wish I wasn't a man .. but that isn't going to make me happy..
..because I am. A man has to take responsibility.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
According to the Oxford English Dictionary the English word "misogyny" was coined in the middle of the 17th century from the Greek misos 'hatred' + gunē 'woman'. The word was rarely used until it was popularised by second-wave feminism in the 1970s.
Misogyny - Wikipedia
Well I do not hate women.
But many people here hate Islam.
Men are in charge of women, because God hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which God hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! God is ever High, Exalted, Great.
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Sure: "that which gets tax benefits like (or exceeding that of) a charity without actually being a charity or a political party."
I think that works.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Hm... I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that your posts in this thread suggest otherwise.
I can't speak for anyone else in this thread, but I don't hate Islam at this point, but you sure have given me more reason to strongly dislike it.
I couldn't care less what the Quran says about women being required to live under the thumb of men. In my opinion, the passage you quoted from your holy book demonstrates to me that it is just as misogynistic and discriminatory as the Bible when it comes to how women are required to be subservient to men or even regarded as the property of men. Well, I say to hell with any religious doctrine that teaches women are to be obedient to men, no matter what absurd arguments are spewed out to justify such a sexist mindset. Men are not spiritually or morally superior to women merely because they have a penis and women do not. As I previously stated, I've been married for thirty years to a man who treats me as his equal. My husband has never expected or demanded obedience from me. We have always had mutual love, trust, and respect for one another. Our marriage and relationship are solely based on unconditional love and mutual love and respect for each other. I genuinely feel sorry for any religious woman who has been taught and believes that she must be subservient to her husband as if she were his property, like a slave. I've personally helped several religious and previously religious women (some of whom were abused) break free from that psychological mindset that had become ingrained in their psyche. And I will continue to help these women.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
I'm sure you don't care about the Bible or the Qur'an..
There are plenty of women who do, and they don't need your sympathy.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Yes, they deserve my empathy if they believe that they must be subservient to their husband, and hopefully someday they will be able to overcome that mindset from the Dark Ages and free themselves of it. Speaking from my experience helping these women (who often feel trapped), I know that they will need long-term counseling as well as moral support and a lot of encouragement in order to achieve the self-esteem necessary to set themselves free.
No, that is NOT the point. it is a question of whether a woman has the same rights to self-determination as a man. If she does not, then the system is unfair to women.
Absolutely, it is a case of slavery: she has to do what her 'master' dictates.
Sorry, but the system you describe is slavery of women.
You seem to think that people never change. That emotions have no effect on wanting to stay, even in an abusive relationship. You ignore the clear power differences between men and women and then ask why women don't feel free to do as their consciences dictate.
Well, it would be more desirable than an abusive husband if she can get a good job.
And the slave masters said that most slaves were happy as well. And when they asked the slaves, the slaves agreed that they were happy.
I wonder why.