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does hinduism accept christ as a prophet/god

kalyan

Aspiring Sri VaishNava
Christians believe that bodies come back to life again when Jesus comes back, no matter if the bodies have been dead for thousands of years.

I have not met a Hindu who believes this. We believe in reincarnation. Why would you reuse your old body after it's rotten?

Maya

There is a thing called jiva samadhi but this is for liberated souls, but they cannot come back once they left the plane. According to vedic dharma the atma is eternal and it has to travel through multiple bodies not essentially human ofcourse based on the prarabdha and sanchita karma!

and as for the OP christ is never mentioned as the divine! Some believe that jesus came to India in his initial years to learn about the vedic dharma and preached those principles there. The rosary beads and sprinkling of water and the ringing of bells have originated from vedic !
 

Maija

Active Member
Christians believe that bodies come back to life again when Jesus comes back, no matter if the bodies have been dead for thousands of years.

I have not met a Hindu who believes this. We believe in reincarnation. Why would you reuse your old body after it's rotten?

Maya

God is not subject to any rules :p If He can bring someone back to life after ages of decades of being without life, He can certainly give them any old form they used to have.

This is just my take. :p

But, for things that disagree with me, they are irrelevant and I make peace with them and those that believe.

At the same time, I can see how this would seem pointless or creepy if I was not raised hearing this, lol
 
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Maya3

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God is not subject to any rules :p If He can bring someone back to life after ages of decades of being without life, He can certainly give them any old form they used to have.

This is just my take. :p

But, for things that disagree with me, they are irrelevant and I make peace with them and those that believe.

At the same time, I can see how this would seem pointless or creepy if I was not raised hearing this, lol


Sure, but then it would be a new form that looks the same, not the same old form that maggots ate years ago, or the ashes reassembled into a body again.

Anyway, using new fresh bodies seem much more appealing to me.

But again, whatever floats boats is fine for me.

Maya
 

Maija

Active Member
Sure, but then it would be a new form that looks the same, not the same old form that maggots ate years ago, or the ashes reassembled into a body again.

Anyway, using new fresh bodies seem much more appealing to me.

But again, whatever floats boats is fine for me.

Maya

LOL, this is a non issue for me too. live your life, love your God and do good works. There are many questions I dont ask simply because the answers would not change what I do and believe to be right, gosh i have heard my mom say this! There are many questions i dont feel burdened by

I love the message Jesus preached and believe he was a great prophet, I dont think he was God, I do believe God sent him for that time. But at this time my deva is Sri Krsna, i have no shame to say I have much love and respect for Jesus, look where I came from it has brought me to such beautiful places, states and to wondeful collections of people to learn from.
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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I love the message Jesus preached and believe he was a great prophet, I dont think he was God, I do believe God sent him for that time.

What is this message you are talking that jesus taught and our ancient ancestor rishis did not? care to elaborate ? :sarcastic

I can't speak for Maija, but if you read what I bolded, you'd get the point, at least as I see it. There's no difference in the message, but it was the time and place of delivery to a particular audience. Do you know of any 1st century BCE Jews knowing of the Vedas? Do you know of any rishis or acharyas who traveled to 1st century BCE Judea? Do you think any 1st century BCE Jew would have the same frame of reference as ancient Indians? Think of history and cultures before you spout **** and try to trip someone up.
 

kalyan

Aspiring Sri VaishNava
I can't speak for Maija, but if you read what I bolded, you'd get the point, at least as I see it. There's no difference in the message, but it was the time and place of delivery to a particular audience. Do you know of any 1st century BCE Jews knowing of the Vedas? Do you know of any rishis or acharyas who traveled to 1st century BCE Judea? Do you think any 1st century BCE Jew would have the same frame of reference as ancient Indians? Think of history and cultures before you spout **** and try to trip someone up.

Still doesn't answer what is the message ?
 
you cannot be serious! :eek:

I think Jayanarayan ji means that Christ was "true" and thus aligned well with Hindu ideas, and that it has got something to do with Himduism being "the Truth".

So, in the barest, this means Christ was not fake. Nothing more nothing less. This by no means means that Christ should be made a Hindu God (we already have many!), or even be equated with Rsis.

It calls for dispassionate analysis (from Hindu pov) of his teachings (distilled from Church rubbish). I am not seeing that happening in this thread, which I think it is created and meant for.

I guess Hindus in general will not bother themselves with reading Bible, but can at least see what other Hindus that have done so, or have come to Hinduism via that route, have to say about Christ.
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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I think Jayanarayan ji means that Christ was "true" and thus aligned well with Hindu ideas, and that it has got something to do with Himduism being "the Truth".

So, in the barest, this means Christ was not fake. Nothing more nothing less. This by no means means that Christ should be made a Hindu God (we already have many!), or even be equated with Rsis.

Thank you. :yes: to all of that. Nail = hit squarely on head.
 
Thank you. :yes: to all of that. Nail = hit squarely on head.
:trampo:
BTW, I wanted to know, Christianity is Abrahmic, i.e. monotheistic, but they have actually Trinity in place, and therefore many Jews call them "polytheistic" (of course derogatorily).

What is your opinion on this?
 

Jainarayan

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I have a hard time accepting the Trinity... actually I don't accept it. It equates Jesus with God, which I do not believe. Some Christian sects are non-trinitarian, believe it or not. But I did not know Jews see it as polytheistic, though this is interesting non-trinitarianism in Judaism.
 
I have a hard time accepting the Trinity... actually I don't accept it. It equates Jesus with God, which I do not believe. Some Christian sects are non-trinitarian, believe it or not. But I did not know Jews see it as polytheistic, though this is interesting non-trinitarianism in Judaism.

Father-Holy Spirit- Son sounds to be from Hinduism, if we take away their guilt-feeling of naming it "Holy Spirit" rather than "Mother" (common sense alone demands it).
So this is pretty much polytheistic. I wonder, then, where is this Abrahmism is coming from: From Christ or from Church?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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If the Holy Spirit is the energy/shakti of God, I think a parallel, ableit loosely, could be drawn. We have to remember that 90% of what is Christianity today stems from Paul (I can't bring myself to call him 'saint') and the early church councils who established the Christian canon as they saw fit. They did not have any divine revelation... sruti.

When Jesus said "the Father and I are one" it sounds like he was enlightened enough to have realized "aham brahmasmi". But that was too radical a concept (not to mention blasphemous) to the Jews of the time. We also have to remember that few religions in the world, especially on continguous landmasses such as Eurasia, developed in a vacuum.
 
"the Father and I are one" (can you give the full verse/line?) -- sounds same as when Vishnu takes avatar on Earth as his own Child.

So Christ is claiming avatardom here.

But in the strictest sense he is the Son in the Trinity. His teachings then also show that he was aligned to Vedic ideas, even though Church or Judaism of that time could not make heads or tails of his teachings.

But the interesting thing would be, the Church's take on this. And did they replaced, perforce, "Mother" with "Holy Spirit" in their eagerness to suppress the power of Devi?
 

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
If the Holy Spirit is the energy/shakti of God, I think a parallel, ableit loosely, could be drawn. We have to remember that 90% of what is Christianity today stems from Paul (I can't bring myself to call him 'saint') and the early church councils who established the Christian canon as they saw fit. They did not have any divine revelation... sruti.

When Jesus said "the Father and I are one" it sounds like he was enlightened enough to have realized "aham brahmasmi". But that was too radical a concept (not to mention blasphemous) to the Jews of the time. We also have to remember that few religions in the world, especially on continguous landmasses such as Eurasia, developed in a vacuum.

I always thought that, if one must draw parallels, it would be the Goddess Shekinah that would be the Shakti.

*shrugs*
 
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