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Don't Have Children? Vance Says You're Scum

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Not with Vance's stewardship?
To wage a "war" to make women have children,
& to monitor their travel across state lines (to
prevent abortions) is his Ameristan.

It's Gilead (Handmaid's Tale).
What it is NOT, however, is anything to do with "liberty." I find that somewhat odd, coming from the party that hollers "freedom" from every pulpit and soapbox.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What it is NOT, however, is anything to do with "liberty." I find that somewhat odd, coming from the party that hollers "freedom" from every pulpit and soapbox.
Both Dems & Pubs trumpet love of "freedom".
But "freedom" is really freedoms. Each likes
some freedoms, but opposes others.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I hear that place has a bad aura.
It's a re-converted phone booth that I bought off of this guy:
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Both Dems & Pubs trumpet love of "freedom".
But "freedom" is really freedoms. Each likes
some freedoms, but opposes others.
I won't be able to prove this, but I think that when the left wants to curtail some freedoms, it is out of concern for the safety of others. You have to drive according to the rules, you mustn't yell fire in a crowded theatre, you should wear a mask during a pandemic, especially when around the vulnerable. On the other hand, they are comfortable with people loving who they love, and marrying them if they want. They are comfortable with a woman wanting control of her own body and healthcare.

Conservatives, on the other hand, prefer to prescribe things like who you should love and who not, whether you should take precautions against unwanted children, or be able to make the hard decision when you foolishly didn't make it when you needed to.

In my view, liberals are more concerned with freedom of individual expression, conservatives much more with conformity of said expression.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I won't be able to prove this, but I think that when the left wants to curtail some freedoms, it is out of concern for the safety of others. You have to drive according to the rules, you mustn't yell fire in a crowded theatre, you should wear a mask during a pandemic, especially when around the vulnerable. On the other hand, they are comfortable with people loving who they love, and marrying them if they want. They are comfortable with a woman wanting control of her own body and healthcare.

Conservatives, on the other hand, prefer to prescribe things like who you should love and who not, whether you should take precautions against unwanted children, or be able to make the hard decision when you foolishly didn't make it when you needed to.

In my view, liberals are more concerned with freedom of individual expression, conservatives much more with conformity of said expression.
OK.
 
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