Everyone who hears of Jesus but does not accept Him is going to hell.

[Aquitaine]

Myself I don't entertain such childish beliefs as hell.

I know right.
It's just an adult's version of being threatened with "time out" or being sent to your room: "if you don't do as I say, you'll end up in Hell".

 

[Muffled]

Is acceptance include socalled "divinity"?

I believe anyone less than God would be unacceptable.

 

[Muffled]

If believing in Jesus as a messenger then I voted yes.

But if it is Jesus as a god then I would vote NO.

I believe then that you are saying it would be acceptable to have someone less than God be in control of you.

 

[Muffled]

Loll then many christians would burn in hellfire too for rejecting "divinity" of Jesus pbuh.

Christians killed each other because of disagreement about Jesus pbuh.

I believe the Bible is vague about this but the Qu'ran says that ones rihteousness must outweigh ones unrighteousness and that might satisfy the notion of being found in life or not found in life since life can be a simile for righteousness. For the Chrstian accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior righteousness is imputed unless the person is just mouthing words and does not accept the reality.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I believe anyone less than God would be unacceptable.

So u mean Jesus is unacceptable?
U affirm oneness of God?

 

[Muffled]

So u mean Jesus is unacceptable?
U affirm oneness of God?

I believe Jesus is acceptable and I affirm the oneness of God.

 

[sojourner]

And the teachings of Jesus shows that Jesus is the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.
So, heaven for some, but for the majority of mankind a future of forever on earth - Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5

Nah. Salvation is universal, because God is universal.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I believe Jesus is acceptable and I affirm the oneness of God.

U worship Jesus as god?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Nah. Salvation is universal, because God is universal.

True, the shed blood of Jesus covers ALL, but Not all will accept Jesus, thus Jesus' ransom covers MANY and Not all - Matthew 20:28

Since God will Not clear the guilty - Exodus 34:7 - there will be No universal salvation - Psalms 7:11-16

 

[URAVIP2ME]

U worship Jesus as god?

The common teaching in Christendom ( imitation Christians ) is that Jesus is God.
Scripture teaches that Jesus is the beginning of the creation by God - Revelation 1:5; Revelation 3:14 B

Only God was before the beginning - Psalms 90:2 - having No beginning.
Whereas God's heavenly Son ( Jesus) was Not before the beginning as God was before the beginning.

 

[sojourner]

True, the shed blood of Jesus covers ALL, but Not all will accept Jesus, thus Jesus' ransom covers MANY and Not all - Matthew 20:28

Since God will Not clear the guilty - Exodus 34:7 - there will be No universal salvation - Psalms 7:11-16

I believe that God desires the reconciliation of all humanity. I further believe that God will eventually get what God wants. I believe that, when faced with the ultimate truth of God, no one will be able to refute it.

 

[Wat_i.need]

I believe then that you are saying it would be acceptable to have someone less than God be in control of you.

I believe in God and i believe in his messengers (Jesus one of them).

Even if (as you say in your religion (Trinity) three but one God) Jesus is the son of God (in Christianity) , why worship the son of God ( "less than God" according to what you said) but not worshiping the God only" the Almighty " .


According to your religion, God SENT Jesus, then Jesus as a God he couldn't come to the world by himself but was "sent" to the world. So, if Jesus "at least" have the same power as God, then the chance to be worshiped would be higher. But he didn't have the ability to even create himself or to be in some where without the help of God.


then who is the most likably to be worshiped? the one who created Jesus and who sent him. or Jesus, the son ( as your religion claimed) who been created by God.

 

[Muffled]

I believe in God and i believe in his messengers (Jesus one of them).

Even if (as you say in your religion (Trinity) three but one God) Jesus is the son of God (in Christianity) , why worship the son of God ( "less than God" according to what you said) but not worshiping the God only" the Almighty " .


According to your religion, God SENT Jesus, then Jesus as a God he couldn't come to the world by himself but was "sent" to the world. So, if Jesus "at least" have the same power as God, then the chance to be worshiped would be higher. But he didn't have the ability to even create himself or to be in some where without the help of God.


then who is the most likably to be worshiped? the one who created Jesus and who sent him. or Jesus, the son ( as your religion claimed) who been created by God.

I believe in Jesus we do worship the God only etc.

I believe this is illogical. There is no way to reach this deduction from the premise without adding another premise.

I believe He is as powerful.

I believe this is an egg before the chicken type of thing. Something that does not exist can't create.

I believe both can be worshipped but Jehovah has elevated Jesus above in name even though they are the same God.

I believe it is not what God does that matters but what God wills that matters. Why would one question His wisdom in elevating Jesus?

 

[Muffled]

Servant of the one said "U worship Jesus as god?"

I believe that is what He requires because He is God. Are you going to tell me you could stand before God and not worship Him?

 

[Wat_i.need]

I believe in Jesus we do worship the God only etc.

I believe this is illogical. There is no way to reach this deduction from the premise without adding another premise.

I believe He is as powerful.

I believe this is an egg before the chicken type of thing. Something that does not exist can't create.

I believe both can be worshipped but Jehovah has elevated Jesus above in name even though they are the same God.

I believe it is not what God does that matters but what God wills that matters. Why would one question His wisdom in elevating Jesus?

So, you are stating that there are two God's to be worshiped?

God is who created everything but Jesus who is one of the creations and who got birth of one mother is supposed to share God in divinity? Why? Did Jesus create any of the nature? Did he create the universe? Did he create even one human? Why does he suppose to share the divinity, when he was only one of the creations.


If he was God why don’t he create some by himself? And take his creations somewhere to worship him only?



Everything in this world proves that there is only one creator of everything. where does Jesus (as you claimed a God) parts come here? What did he do for the universe to worship him? Did he created a tree? Did he created you ?



I believe in one God (Allah) the one who created me. I believe in Prophets. I believe in Jesus Peace Be Upon Him as a messenger. And I believe in Moses Peace Be Upon Him as a messenger. And I believe in Mohammad Peace Be Upon Him as a messenger.

Servant of the one said "U worship Jesus as god?"

I believe that is what He requires because He is God. Are you going to tell me you could stand before God and not worship Him?

What proves that Jesus is a God? did he create the ones he brought from the death? Did he create the hearing and the eyesight?

I know that Jesus peace be upon him brought people from death. But it's all miracles that God gave to the chosen people and to the messengers. Every messenger have a miracles.


If Jesus God he can prevent them from killing him,why he didn't? and if he is really a God he will just bring himself from death.

Are you going to tell me you could stand before God and not worship Him?

If there is a God you can't stand but worship. Then worship the one who created you . deserve to be worshiped.

 

[Yoshua]

I could never work out why Jesus has the monopoly on being saved, like he couldn't even save himself, myself I am more interested in the Buddha, or Krishna.

Jesus could have saved Himself, but He did not require to save Himself because it is God's plan to sent His Son to the cross of Calvary for the salvation of sin. Actually, instead of saving Himself, He resurrected and alive again.

John 3:16
16. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (plan of God)

Matt. 26:53-54
53. Don't you realize that I could ask my Father for thousands of angels to protect us, and he would send them instantly?
54. But if I did, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled that describe what is happening now?''

Thanks

 

[Yoshua]

God is who created everything but Jesus who is one of the creations and who got birth of one mother is supposed to share God in divinity? Why? Did Jesus create any of the nature? Did he create the universe? Did he create even one human? Why does he suppose to share the divinity, when he was only one of the creations.

Hi Wat,

God (Father) created everything (including human). Jesus is not his creation. Jesus is already with God in the beginning.
John 1:1-3
1. In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God.
2. He was in the beginning with God (Father).
3. All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

John 1:14
14. And the Word(Jesus) became flesh, and dwelt (as human/divine) among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten (unique) from the Father, full of grace and truth.

He shared the divinity because it was His nature that He is divine.

Phil. 2:6-8
6. who, though he was God (Jesus), did not demand and cling to his rights (to be equal with God) as God,
7. but laid aside his mighty power and glory, taking the disguise (form) of a slave and becoming like men. Christ humbled himself
8. And he humbled himself even further, going so far as actually to die a criminal's death on a cross.

Everything in this world proves that there is only one creator of everything. where does Jesus (as you claimed a God) parts come here? What did he do for the universe to worship him? Did he created a tree? Did he created you ?

In evangelical Christianity, we believed that one God (Father) exists in three persons as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are distinct from each other and divine in nature.

What proves that Jesus is a God? did he create the ones he brought from the death? Did he create the hearing and the eyesight?

There are a lot of basis or Scripture that Jesus is God. The first thing is--if He is not God, how come that He is the Saviour of our sins and offered eternal life?

If Jesus God he can prevent them from killing him,why he didn't? and if he is really a God he will just bring himself from death.

Yes, absolutely. Jesus could have saved Himself, but He did not require to save Himself because it is God's plan to sent His Son to the cross of Calvary for the salvation of sin. Actually, instead of saving Himself, He resurrected and alive again.

John 3:16
16. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (plan of God)

Matt. 26:53-54
53. Don't you realize that I could ask my Father for thousands of angels to protect us, and he would send them instantly?
54. But if I did, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled that describe what is happening now?''

Thanks

 

[psychoslice]

Jesus could have saved Himself, but He did not require to save Himself because it is God's plan to sent His Son to the cross of Calvary for the salvation of sin. Actually, instead of saving Himself, He resurrected and alive again.

John 3:16
16. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (plan of God)

Matt. 26:53-54
53. Don't you realize that I could ask my Father for thousands of angels to protect us, and he would send them instantly?
54. But if I did, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled that describe what is happening now?''

Thanks

Yea, but lets face it, it wasn't a good idea, it achieved nothing lol.

 

[Yoshua]

Yea, but lets face it, it wasn't a good idea, it achieved nothing lol.

Nothing? Saving the soul of many is nothing? This is the work of God. What if a friend of yours saves you from drowning? Do you think your friend achieve nothing?

Thanks

 

[Unification]

True, the shed blood of Jesus covers ALL, but Not all will accept Jesus, thus Jesus' ransom covers MANY and Not all - Matthew 20:28

Since God will Not clear the guilty - Exodus 34:7 - there will be No universal salvation - Psalms 7:11-16

There is blood within every physical body, that is universal. The guilty can do and "sin" as they please because of this resistance. All fall short and have transgressed complete purity. All are covered in a body of flesh and blood. Forgiveness and being forgiven are different.