First person shooter video games

[We Never Know]

Absolutely irrelevant to the topic, WNK. Virtual training does not a video game make, and this entire red herring has zero correlations to the accusation that video games cause violence. Do you have anything at all to supply in that regard, or just more wild tangents?

How is it irrelevant? You are trying to say what the military does or doesn't do without having a clue.

 

[We Never Know]

My phaser I got from captain Kirk would do better lol

 

[Stevicus]

Some military are virtual trained. But its just a game.

Does that mean when they go out on a 10-mile hike, they watch themselves do it on a computer screen?

I'm reminded of an episode where George Jetson is waking up in the morning and does his morning exercises by watching himself exercise on TV while still lying in bed. Pity no one has invented anything like that yet.

 

[Heyo]

"it's the availability of gun"

Are you willingly obtuse? Guns are harder to get now than ever. I used to take them to school as shop projects. Every truck in the school parking lot had guns in the back glass gun rack.... We could walk into any store at 18, pay for a gun and walks out as soon as it was rang up. The were no school shootings.

History of School Shootings in the United States | K12 Academics

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

How is it irrelevant? You are trying to say what the military does or doesn't do without having a clue.

It's already been clearly shown that the virtual training being implemented is not the same thing as commercial video games, WNK, and that entire tangent branched wildly from any issue revolving around video games causing violence. So your question is entirely irrelevant and I am not going to entertain it.

Do you have anything to show for the accusation of video games and their relationship to violence?

 

[We Never Know]

History of School Shootings in the United States | K12 Academics

Yep. From your link... From the late 80's-90's up it has gotten worse. So your point?

"From the late 1980s to the early 1990s the United States saw a sharp increase in gun and gun violence in the schools.

 

[We Never Know]

It's already been clearly shown that the virtual training being implemented is not the same thing as commercial video games, WNK, and that entire tangent branched wildly from any issue revolving around video games causing violence. So your question is entirely irrelevant and I am not going to entertain it.

Do you have anything to show for the accusation of video games and their relationship to violence?

Who said its the same as real? Not me. I said its used in training. Get your facts straight.

 

[Stevicus]

My phaser I got from captain Kirk would do better lol

Well, of course, it goes without saying that Kirk would beat Vader any day of the week and twice on Sunday. He's dealt with beings with telekinetic powers.

 

[Heyo]

Yep. From your link... From the late 80's-90's up it has gotten worse. So your point?

Your claim that there were no shootings prior to that.

 

[We Never Know]

Does that mean when they go out on a 10-mile hike, they watch themselves do it on a computer screen?

I'm reminded of an episode where George Jetson is waking up in the morning and does his morning exercises by watching himself exercise on TV while still lying in bed. Pity no one has invented anything like that yet.

Really? I expected better than a George Jetson comparison from you.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Who said its the same as real? Not me. I said its used in training. Get your facts straight.

In that very quote, nowhere did I say it's the same as real. I said they're not the same as commercial video games. And still yet, what's your point?

 

[We Never Know]

Your claim that there were no shootings prior to that.

Where I lived there wasnt. And it wasn't in the world news monthly.

 

[We Never Know]

In that very quote, nowhere did I say it's the same as real. I said they're not the same as commercial video games. And still yet, what's your point?

Virtual training is used in the military is my point.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Virtual training is used in the military is my point.

And that has any bearing to the topic... how?

 

[We Never Know]

And that has any bearing to the topic... how?

Virtual training is equivalent to a video game. Its used for a virtual experience.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Virtual training is equivalent to a video game. Its used for a virtual experience.

Explain exactly how the two correlate. In what way does, say, Call of Duty train one for combat with a virtual experience?

 

[We Never Know]

And that has any bearing to the topic... how?

I will put it thus way.. If you haven't been there you don't know/understand.

Kind of like the guy carrying a pistol that talks about a shooting and says if "I was there"..
He has no clue.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I will put it thus way.. If you haven't been there you don't know/understand.

Kind of like the guy carrying a pistol that talks about a shooting and says if "I was there"..
He has no clue.

Yeah, that's not explaining how a virtual training crafted by the Department of Defense relates equally to a video game at all. The false equivalency of "well they're both virtual" isn't it.

 

[We Never Know]

Explain exactly how the two correlate. In what way does, say, Call of Duty train one for combat with a virtual experience?

A young kids get into their game. They get obsessed with them. Its cool, etc.
Its like trying stunts seen on movies. Some sometimes have to try it in real ife.

 

[We Never Know]

Yeah, that's not explaining how a virtual training crafted by the Department of Defense relates equally to a video game at all. The false equivalency of "well they're both virtual" isn't it.

Ok. You are the expert. You win. Its the guns fault so lets ban guns. That's your best solution.