For Muslims: Is Muhammad the last Prophet from God?

[Ebionite]

Quran refers to the Scriptures that is with the people of the Book.
Now, the term Torah can mean different things.

I quote Wikipedia:

In rabbinic literature, the word Torah denotes both the five books (תורה שבכתב "Torah that is written") and the Oral Torah (תורה שבעל פה, "Torah that is spoken"). It has also been used, however, to designate the entire Hebrew Bible.

The question is, when Muhammad was speaking about Scriptures of the Jews, or Torah, did He mean, the entire Hebrew Bible, or He meant the Torah which is the first five Books?
How do we know?

The written law (Penteteuch)

And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
Quran 5:46

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18

jot and tittle refer to written text

 

[InvestigateTruth]

The written law (Penteteuch)

And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
Quran 5:46

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18

jot and tittle refer to written text

So that includes Book of Isaiah?

 

[Link]

What is it that you disagree with?

The disregard for what God meant for following caprice.

 

[paarsurrey]

For Muslims: Is Muhammad the last Prophet from God?
Muhammad is last in status/rank on the vertical axis, not the last in time, please, right?
Muhammad himself told of Second Coming of Isa/Masih and Imam Mahdi so he knew the rank of a person after him, right?
When Muhammad himself prophesied for the Second Coming of Isa/Masih and Imam Mahdi, so he was clear that an End-time reformer of all religions from among his followers is to come after him, right?

And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
Quran 5:46

Very truly said in Quran.

Regards

 

[Link]

The Mahdi is not a Nabi. And Isa (a) returns but is under the banner of Imam Mahdi (a) and supports and helps the Mahdi (a). He doesn't come back with Nubuwa. His role as a Nabi has finished.

 

[paarsurrey]

For Muslims: Is Muhammad the last Prophet from God?
Muhammad is last in status/rank on the vertical axis, not the last in time, please, right?
Muhammad himself told of Second Coming of Isa/Masih and Imam Mahdi so he knew the rank of a person after him, right?
When Muhammad himself prophesied for the Second Coming of Isa/Masih and Imam Mahdi, so he was clear that an End-time reformer of all religions from among his followers is to come after him, right?
Since Second Coming of Isa/Masih and Imam Mahdi, has not brought any new Law so his advent is not against the status of Muhammad being the last last Prophet of G-d, right?

And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
Quran 5:46

Very truly said in Quran.

Regards

 

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For Muslims: Is Muhammad the last Prophet from God?
Muhammad is last in status/rank on the vertical axis, not the last in time, please, right?

No he is the last in time. Anyone saying otherwise, doesn't care for what God is truly saying.

 

[muhammad_isa]

The disregard for what God meant for following caprice.

Don't know what you are talking about.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

No he is the last in time. Anyone saying otherwise, doesn't care for what God is truly saying.

That statement is so obviously wrong Link.

Regards Tony

 

[Ebionite]

So that includes Book of Isaiah?

No, the prophets were mentioned separately

It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
Quran 5:44

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:17

But there are some verses which are found both in the Torah and in the book of Isaiah:

2 Kings 18:17-31 is the same as Isaiah 36:2-16

 

[paarsurrey]

No, the prophets were mentioned separately

It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
Quran 5:44

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:17

Happy birthday!

Regards

 

[Link]

That statement is so obviously wrong Link.

Regards Tony

To most people it's not and for obvious reasons.

 

[Pawpatrol]

I testify that Muhammad is the last messenger. As for your interpretations of the Quran, they have to be automatically rejected. As for your evidence, I honestly didn't notice you having any.

 

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I testify that Muhammad is the last messenger. As for your interpretations of the Quran, they have to be automatically rejected. As for your evidence, I honestly didn't notice you having any.

The Quran and tawatur hadithis say Mohammad (s) is the last Nabi, not last Rasool. The Mahdi does not bring scripture but he does come with a message.

 

[Pawpatrol]

The Quran and tawatur hadithis say Mohammad (s) is the last Nabi, not last Rasool. The Mahdi does not bring scripture but he does come with a message.

Yes, he is the last prophet, and he is also the last messenger as a messenger has to be a prophet.

 

[Link]

Yes, he is the last prophet, and he is also the last messenger as a messenger has to be a prophet.

There are non-Messenger Nabis and non-Nabi Messengers. They are two different roles almost intertwined all the time.

 

[Pawpatrol]

There are non-Messenger Nabis and non-Nabi Messengers. They are two different roles almost intertwined all the time.

There are "non-messenger nabis" but "non-nabi messengers" can't exist because if you have a message from God (i.e. you're a messenger) then you have to have received that message from God, and so you must be a prophet. You receive messages from God = you're a prophet.

If you receive messages from God and you're not a prophet then you're insane.

 

[Link]

There are "non-messenger nabis" but "non-nabi messengers" can't exist because if you have a message from God (i.e. you're a messenger) then you have to have received that message from God, and so you must be a prophet. You receive messages from God = you're a prophet.

If you receive messages from God and you're not a prophet then you're insane.

Salam

That is one way to define it. Another, is that messages are paraphrased in their own words and have to be delivered in clear terms, while Nubuwa is receiving the book from God to channel to people.

The way you define it would mean Prophethood = Resalah with no difference in the roles. But per Quran, not every Nabi is a Rasool per Surah Hajj and as well, not every Rasool does God talk to (towards him to all mankind through) per Surah Baqara while Nubuwa is God talking to a Nabi his book so it can be channeled to mankind.

Also, Mother of Musa and other holy women would be Nabis by your definition. God also talks to Pharaoh when he was about to drown, it does not make Pharaoh a Nabi.

 

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I say no difference, because a Nabi receives something but to be channeled to people. While Messenger is from the perspective that he is deliver while Nabi would just mean receive that message (to deliver) per your definition. But this problematic in that not every Nabi is a Messenger per Surah Hajj and there is subset of Messengers that God talks to per Surah Baqara.

 

[Pawpatrol]

Salam

That is one way to define it. Another, is that messages are paraphrased in their own words and have to be delivered in clear terms, while Nubuwa is receiving the book from God to channel to people.

The way you define it would mean Prophethood = Resalah with no difference in the roles. But per Quran, not every Nabi is a Rasool per Surah Hajj and as well, not every Rasool does God talk to (towards him to all mankind through) per Surah Baqara while Nubuwa is God talking to a Nabi his book so it can be channeled to mankind.

Also, Mother of Musa and other holy women would be Nabis by your definition. God also talks to Pharaoh when he was about to drown, it does not make Pharaoh a Nabi.

I am not referring to the type of practical revelation such as what the mother of Musa received.