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some of it begins at the first verse in the first chapter '' A revelation* by Jesus Christ, which God gave him,+ to show his slaves+ the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel 'and presented it in signs' through him to his slave John,+"@cataway said: the vast majority of those that consider them selves to be christion do not understand The book Revelation
Why do you think that some Christians understand it and others don't?
But why do you think that some Christians understand what the Book of Revelation means whereas other Christians don't understand what it means? Isn't that what you were claiming?
perhaps the best answer is to let you prove it to yourself. what are the JW's saying,find out for your self .everything is free and in printBut why do you think that some Christians understand what the Book of Revelation means whereas other Christians don't understand what it means? Isn't that what you were claiming?
You still did not answer what I asked. Why do you think that some Christians understand what the Book of Revelation means whereas other Christians don't understand what it means? In other words, why do you think that the JWs understand whereas the other Christians do not understand?perhaps the best answer is to let you prove it to yourself. what are the JW's saying,find out for your self .everything is free and in print
it's been my observation that people try to read it as literal .very little of it is to be understood as literal and even then done with the eyes of discernment. i find amusement when someone tries to give names to the two witnesses (Rev,11). if you want to know find a JW and ask them to study the book with you. they're not going to charge you anything it's just a fun thing to do.You still did not answer what I asked. Why do you think that some Christians understand what the Book of Revelation means whereas other Christians don't understand what it means? In other words, why do you think that the JWs understand whereas the other Christians do not understand?
I agree. Very little of the Book of Revelation is intended to be understood as literal.it's been my observation that people try to read it as literal .very little of it is to be understood as literal and even then done with the eyes of discernment.
So, based on maturity the taste for pleasure changes from one age to another? From child to child, to young adult to young adult, then on to the well aged - 70's to end of life stages of human development. This appears to be the process you are alluding to.
Are you saying that Hindu scriptures teach that heaven is a physical world?Yes. And as per Hindu scriptures there are different heavenly planes which caters to one's desires with respect to lower and higher pleasures.
Are you saying that Hindu scriptures teach that heaven is a physical world?
If it is not physical how could it cater to the lower pleasures, which involve the physical body?
You get this understanding from one person? He doesn't represent all of Hindu thought I wouldn't think. Hindus are quite varied in their views.The mention in the Hindu scriptures is with respect to the astral worlds where emotional pleasure is predominant. The pleasures of the causal world, considered to be more intellectual, are considered superior.
This is the impression I got from reading the 'Autobiography of a Yogi' where this topic is subject to scrutiny by Yogananda's teacher Yukteshwar.
You get this understanding from one person? He doesn't represent all of Hindu thought I wouldn't think. Hindus are quite varied in their views.
Not really. My desire to leave Indiana was fulfilled. Goal accomplished. That hasn't created any further suffering for me, and hasn't created any further desires to replace it or created suffering. I have desired to get a phlebotomy job, but I got covid during mh externship and that lead to one thing lead to another and now I'm disabled. This suffering isn't the fault of going to fulfill a desire. It was just that "**** happens" thing of life and just as easily could've happened different. And then fulfilling a desire to transition, that hasn't lead to increasing desires or more suffering either.The fulfilment of desire leads only to more desire, and therefore to more suffering.
I don't think @RestlessSoul was referring to 'that kind' of desire.Not really. My desire to leave Indiana was fulfilled. Goal accomplished.
I find it odd just how much Christians have changed the Christian view of afterlife. Traditionally there is no soul that gets transportesld to another realm for judgment to go to Heaven or Hell. Rather we stay dead and remain dead until the Day of Judgement where everyone will be resurrected to face judgement.I think it's unfortunate that so many people believe the Bible's teachings about the afterlife, which are erroneous and misleading. You know why I believe this to be true. Sadly, not many of these poor souls realize that the Bible's claims about the afterlife are wrong until it's too late, and they now need help.
Doesn't matter. Desiring things isn't a bad thing and doesn't automatically and necessarily lead to more desires and suffering later on. Nothing would be worth fighting or struggling for if that were true.I don't think @RestlessSoul was referring to 'that kind' of desire.
Doesn't matter. Desiring things isn't a bad thing and doesn't automatically and necessarily lead to more desires and suffering later on. Nothing would be worth fighting or struggling for if that were true.
This is what most Christians still believe but I consider it completely absurd. It has no basis in the Bible but rather it is based upon a misinterpretation of Bible verses. Dead and decomposed bodies don't come back to life again and rise from their graves. That is patently absurd. Christians say "God can do anything because God is omnipotent" but why would God do that?I find it odd just how much Christians have changed the Christian view of afterlife. Traditionally there is no soul that gets transportesld to another realm for judgment to go to Heaven or Hell. Rather we stay dead and remain dead until the Day of Judgement where everyone will be resurrected to face judgement.
Physical bodies will not be resurrected and then go to heaven since physical bodies cannot exist in heaven, since heaven is a spiritual world, not a physical world.This "beam me up, Goddy" just seems so strange, even foriegn to the Bible just silly. The Bible says we will all be resurrected and then be admitted into the kingdom or killed again and remain eternally dead. Afterall, it's says "will not perish but have everlasting life." Wouldn't it just be silly if we are judged after we die and then get resurrected to be judged again?
It all depends upon what one desires. If one desires the 'things of the flesh' I believe that will lead to suffering in the next life, since those desires will no longer be able to be fulfilled, but if one desires love that won't lead to suffering in this life or in the next life, it will only lead to joy.Doesn't matter. Desiring things isn't a bad thing and doesn't automatically and necessarily lead to more desires and suffering later on. Nothing would be worth fighting or struggling for if that were true.