Ok, thanks and sorry for the mistake.(By the way, "its", not "it's". The latter is an abbreviation for "it is".)
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Historical Accuracy in Scripture
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ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Simply untrue. Herd immunity via vaccination is well evidenced. It's actually blindingly obvious. If a vaccine reduces infection rates (as many of them do) then it will reduce spread in the population and protect those who cannot be vaccinated.
Denying reality doesn't make it go away.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
He is what's called a "neo-fascist", and if one understands what such a person says and does, Trump very much fits the bill. Maybe read "Strongmen" by Ruth Ben Ghiat, who's a poli sci professor at NYU who specializes in the history of fascism and fascists.
Even numerous Republicans and former Republicans consider him to be an existential threat to our constitutional democracy if elected, and Trump says he'll be a "dictator on the first day".
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
" NT Bible was neither narrated/authored by Jesus/Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah nor inspired by G-d "
nor written by any of the "twelve disciples" of Yeshua, please, right?
The claim of the Pauline-Christians that NT Bible is narrated/authored by Yeshua or GD or by any of the twelve or is inspired by them is, therefore, no more than an accusation against them all , please, right?
Regards
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
ROFL I'm sorry, but like Judge Judy would say, RE-DICULOUS.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
He told Sean Hannity just the other night, that he'll only be a dictator on Day One (twice he told him this).
Whew, right?
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
The only thing I can think of is that everything in the universe is God (or Gods). I think of the example of my body: the millions or billions of cells are their own thing but all of them is me. I am only generally aware when it goes wrong and I certainly don’t know my individual cells on a first name basis. Thus, I think God only responds to maybe planetary issues at the lowest resolution. Not, “ Gee, Kelly is having problems,” but “Gee, Earth’s biosphere is acting crazy.”
Hmm. God's origins are in the Middle East where so much of the oil comes from. Maybe it's all [his] idea of a joke.
Didn't he explain also what it means?He told Sean Hannity just the other night, that he'll only be a dictator on Day One (twice he told him this).
Whew, right?
In my opinion it is not logically said, which is why I think it was not wisely said from Trump. By what I know, he promised to close the border, if he is elected, isn't it then actually what people democratically want, and not dictatorial then? It would be dictatorial, if he would use voting machines to get in power regardless on what the people vote. But I don't think he is doing something like that.
However, I think it is interesting that people see Trump as a dictator, but not Biden, although Biden himself calls himself a dictator.
“I have this strange notion, we are a democracy … if you can’t get the votes … you can’t [legislate] by executive order unless you’re a dictator. We’re a democracy. We need consensus.”
"In President Biden’s first week alone, he has signed 37 executive orders and actions as of Thursday. That’s 33 more than the guy he indirectly referred to as a dictator, in the form of predecessor Donald Trump."
By his own definition, Biden is already governing like a dictator
Biden’s actions are the opposite of someone who preaches compromise, something a majority of the Democrats, Republicans and independents ultimately want.
thehill.com
I think it is really annoying when people have such double standards.
I agree, it is ridiculous that people have such superstitious beliefs in vaccines.
If a disease is removed from a population, it will not show there, regardless of vaccination. By what I know a disease can appear again in vaccinated population, if people with the disease come in to the vaccinated population. That proves to me that the vaccine is not actually very useful.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
And one way to remove it from the population is to severely reduce its infection rate, which is what vaccination does. If you get the basic reproduction number 'R' below 1, it will die out.Depends on the disease and the vaccine, but a vaccine that reduces infection will minimise this.
Doesn't prove anything of the sort. Are you just not listening because you've already decided by faith or something? Vaccination is probably one of the most beneficial and effective inventions in all of science. They have totally transformed viral infections to the point that many serious diseases of the past are all but unknown in treated populations and some have been eradicated entirely.
Vaccine hesitancy is a serious threat to human health because we need vaccinated populations to protect the vulnerable.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Nonsense, as "executive orders" are generally constitutional unless a court rules otherwise, and Trump also issued numerous e.o.'s. So, with you it's OK for Trump to use them but if Biden does, he's a "dictator".However, I think it is interesting that people see Trump as a dictator, but not Biden, although Biden himself calls himself a dictator.
“I have this strange notion, we are a democracy … if you can’t get the votes … you can’t [legislate] by executive order unless you’re a dictator. We’re a democracy. We need consensus.”
"In President Biden’s first week alone, he has signed 37 executive orders and actions as of Thursday. That’s 33 more than the guy he indirectly referred to as a dictator, in the form of predecessor Donald Trump."
By his own definition, Biden is already governing like a dictator
Biden’s actions are the opposite of someone who preaches compromise, something a majority of the Democrats, Republicans and independents ultimately want.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It means he plans to be a dictator beginning on day one.
By what he Trump says, it means he is going to close the border. And, if he is voted in, it means also his voters want that. And then I don't think it can really be called dictatorial, if he is doing the will of the people.
If person dictates orders, he is a dictator, by what Biden says. If Trump is a dictator, when he uses executive orders, then so is Biden also. But, obviously we can think that Biden is wrong, but then Trump also is not a dictator.
And then we can't know was it because of the vaccine, or would it have gone that way also without vaccines. If vaccine doesn't work always, the reason why person doesn't get sick can be something else. And I think, if vaccine really works scientifically, it works every time the same way.
I can believe traditional vaccines can be helpful. And with a traditional vaccine I mean a vaccine that gives small part of virus to cause immune reaction, which then helps body to fight back against the real virus effectively and so prevents the disease. And in some cases this immune reaction that strengthens persons immune system against a virus can last longer. But, it also means person could still be infected and spread the virus to the vulnerable people, which is why I don't think vaccines can be said to protect those who can't have the vaccine.
Covid vaccines are not traditional vaccines.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Of course we can. That's why we have clinical trials.So you know nothing about medicine.
The situation is always complicated with any treatment and any medicine. That's exactly why we have placebo controlled, randomised, double blind studies. That is what shows us that it works better than nothing and exactly how effective it is. There is nothing different about vaccines.
Many vaccines stop (most) people getting infected in the first place.
There are multiple different vaccines and some use the approach you described as 'traditional'.
Types of vaccines for COVID-19 | British Society for Immunology
All vaccines work by training the immune system, regardless of exactly how they do that.
It is reckless and dangerous to make medical choices on the basis of ignorance. Posting the nonsense in public is doubly reckless. I suggest getting a basic working knowledge of what you're talking about and stop posting misinformation.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Hear hear, especially the last bit.
So you know nothing about medicine.
The situation is always complicated with any treatment and any medicine. That's exactly why we have placebo controlled, randomised, double blind studies. That is what shows us that it works better than nothing and exactly how effective it is. There is nothing different about vaccines.
Many vaccines stop (most) people getting infected in the first place.
There are multiple different vaccines and some use the approach you described as 'traditional'.
Types of vaccines for COVID-19 | British Society for Immunology
www.immunology.org
All vaccines work by training the immune system, regardless of exactly how they do that.
It is reckless and dangerous to make medical choices on the basis of ignorance. Posting the nonsense in public is doubly reckless. I suggest getting a basic working knowledge of what you're talking about and stop posting misinformation.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Every possible sign of dictatorship is there. Heck, it was there in 2016. If we reelect him, we will have no one but ourselves to blame.