dawny0826
Mother Heathen
I don't feel that I have anything to debate as what I share is what I believe and I respect that others may not accept the trinity or interpret it in the same way that I do.
I respect your views.
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Holes in the trinity
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I don't feel that I have anything to debate as what I share is what I believe and I respect that others may not accept the trinity or interpret it in the same way that I do.
I respect your views.
If this is true it means there are different degrees of love. Someone obeying more commands loves God more. God is love. Is God in degrees?
That is your own opinion of what is God's command. I believe God's command is universal. You seem to believe God's command is the Catholic faith. Is it? Are only good Catholics saved?
If we do not share hope faith and charity we are not saved. Share with whom?
I do not know if I ever said they weren't. I am still here after seven thousand some odd posts so I think I am not in the habit of insisting I am right.
I won't answer your question "what do I do"? except to say I mas....oh never mind.
Thank you and I respect yours.
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
On the day the law was given 3000 people died. On the day of Pentacost when the Spirit was given, 3000 were born again into life.The Spirit is not subjected unto laws and commandments but was from the beginning.
Athan, if you mean to obey God means to follow a good conscience I shall tend to agree.
Although I do not believe that to follow a good conscience means God will save the person for everlasting life. A person's opinion of what is right and wrong is just an opinion. An opinion has no power for anything, does it?
Although I do not believe that to follow a good conscience means God will save the person for everlasting life. A person's opinion of what is right and wrong is just an opinion. An opinion has no power for anything, does it?
You hear what you want to hear. I said God forgives.
Because he gets on his knees and asks God to help him.
Just so you know this is considered by me to be bearing false witness. What does to bear false witness mean to you? Exodus 20:16
Is God not in control of the Spirit that attends a person who obeys God's commands?
God is in the highest degree. We are degreed according to our level of commitment to God's will.
As is your opinion yours.
Explain.
I'm not Catholic, therefore, you are incorrect.
More sarcasm?
Share with our neighbors, anyone who crosses our paths, mankind in general.
then if I ever get around to reading all 7,000 of your posts, I just may agree with you.
Would it help if I also sent you a private message?
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LOVE. I do not believe the command of God means a to do and a do not do list.
I think I heard you mention the sacrament. My bad. I should learn to read. (that is sacrcam fyi)
Actually no. It's a real question. I have heard it use to be the rule. Now it is a rule among the Jehovah's Witnesses sort of. Sort of becuase you only must prove to God you will be a good Jehovah's Witness after Armageddon, not before, or some such foolishness (not sarcasm).
To think that acts of love will save a person poses a serious problem (my opinion only) The problem is there are many acts of goodness we might be able to accomplish that we do not accomplish.
This is funny. Stick around forum for a while and you will hear a lot of funny things. Have you found the icons yet? Sometimes the one I want is missing like this time. I don't know why they disappear. Maybe they are like library books. (not sarcasm)
You said I hear only what I want to hear. That is false.
BlandOatmeal
Active Member
Matt 25
[34] Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[35] For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
[36] Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
[37] Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
[38] When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
[39] Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
[40] And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Is there a problem here? I don't see any. My wife liked hearing those scriptures, by the way, when I substituted "his wife" for "the brethren". That made it sound downright musical; and that's the point: Our "neighbor" is the one near to us; and our "brother" is primarily the one closest to us:
1 Tim 5
[3] Honour widows that are widows indeed.
[4] But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.
[5] Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.
[6] But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
Our righteousness, after all, is not a matter of the things we DO, but of who we ARE. As we PRACTICE righteousness to those around us, we nurture the righteous spirit within us. THEN, when we are with others, we will act according to the healthy, well-fed righteousness within us; and on the day of Judgment, many will testify of our good works. If we don't practice good in these small things, though, we will also find ourselves unable to do good in the greater things.
It feeds our vanity, to think we can solve the world's problems, such as fighting apartheid, or solving problems in Syria and Israel. If we are practiced at providing for our own widowed aunts or parents, though, or helping our wives around the house, we will have abundant strength of character to deal with greater things.
These works of love, though, are not possible if we are under bondage through the fear of death. That freedom from bondage can only come from accepting that God rose Jesus from the dead.
I say these things only for exposition's sake -- I am sure you agree with the tenor of them.
I need to quit this for a while, and help my wife.
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Congregator
Outworld Experimentation
If the trinity were/ is/ are true, it would contradict the fabric of the entire bible... Instead of taking one scripture to prove a point, you need to understand all scripture so that what is being said makes sense... For example
John 17:3 KJV - And this is life eternal, that
they might know thee the
only true God, AND Jesus
Christ, whom thou hast
sent.
Clearly... That shows that God and Jesus are TWO people... Otherwise you trying to say that one person cant decide whether hes alive or dead???
John 17:3 KJV - And this is life eternal, that
they might know thee the
only true God, AND Jesus
Christ, whom thou hast
sent.
Clearly... That shows that God and Jesus are TWO people... Otherwise you trying to say that one person cant decide whether hes alive or dead???
I see no problem with what Jesus said. My question is about why the righteous ask him "when". What does it mean? The people who listen to Jesus' command to love one another know they do it for Jesus. In the illustration why are they asking. Does it mean nothing that they are shown asking?
You are right. I do.
People who believe in the trinty do believe they are two personalities. I think. They say two and one and three also.
But I agree with you. There is so much more compelling reason to believe God is ONE, uncaused and forever and that Jesus resulted from God's interest in God's creation.
Are you asking me to put you on ignore?
BlandOatmeal
Active Member
...as in,
"Matthew 25:37-39
37"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'"
I take it that they are asking,
"Matthew 25:37-39
37"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord,whendid we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'"
Jesus is saying that he and the brethren form a Multiplernity
...as in,
"Matthew 25:37-39
…37"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'"
I take it that they are asking,
"Matthew 25:37-39
…37"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord,whendid we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'"
Jesus is saying that he and the brethren form a Multiplernity
Why would they ask him when if they knew they had not?
Is it just bad poetry?
Is this spelled right? Multiplernity
BlandOatmeal
Active Member
I spelled it "Multiplernity
". You left off the wink.As for "Why would they ask him... had not?",
I don't see your point
-- my bad. 
The wife needs me. Shalom shalom