How is it true "Jesus is God"?

[Yes]

That doesn't help me, because people who don't hate God sin all the time.

It is NOT love then.

 

[sojourner]

The trinity doctrine says that God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit are SEPARATE and DISTINCT. Distinct even means different.

Go ahead and post the definition of the trinity.

But it doesn't say that there are "two different gods."

 

[sojourner]

Jesus said that if we obey what he teaches then he will be with us. See John 14:23.

He also said that he would be with us to the close of the age. And that wherever two or more were gathered, he would be there.

 

[sojourner]

God says to hate what is evil.

God says to stone adulterers, too. I'm not doing that anytime soon.

 

[Yes]

OK. So are you saying we need not "teach and preach" as Matthew 28:19, 20 says?

Jesus says he will be with us if we obey him.

 

[sojourner]

Evil and sin are overcome by obeying Jesus. Jesus says to hate what is evil.

Evil and sin are overcome by loving God with one's heart and soul and mind, and loving one's neighbor as oneself.

 

[Yes]

God says to stone adulterers, too. I'm not doing that anytime soon.

There is a new covenant. New Covenant means New Testament. Through Jesus, we can find mercy and forgiveness.

 

[sojourner]

"all the time" no! Tell me with truer words what you mean please.

People sin. And those same people love God.

 

[sojourner]

It is NOT love then.

Sure it is! Do you love God? I bet you say you do. Do you sin? Yes!

 

[sojourner]

There is a new covenant. New Covenant means New Testament. Through Jesus, we can find mercy and forgiveness.

'K. Have you sold all your goods, given all the proceeds to the poor? No? Clearly that falls under the new covenant.

 

[Yes]

Evil and sin are overcome by loving God with one's heart and soul and mind, and loving one's neighbor as oneself.

Please, listen carefully...we do NOT love God if we are not obeying. Obeying God IS loving God.

2 John 1:6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.


John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."

 

[Yes]

'K. Have you sold all your goods, given all the proceeds to the poor? No? Clearly that falls under the new covenant.

That is what someone without understanding thinks Jesus wants us all to do. Jesus does not tell us to do that.

 

[Yes]

Sure it is! Do you love God? I bet you say you do. Do you sin? Yes!

I do not live in sin. I live through the Spirit, which is by obedience to Christ.

 

[savagewind]

People sin. And those same people love God.

A sin is a mistake. I was talking about hate but you sure know how to change track.

 

[sojourner]

I do not live in sin. I live through the Spirit, which is by obedience to Christ.

But you do sin.

 

[sojourner]

A sin is a mistake.

Not always.

 

[savagewind]

Not always.

Yes, but why not get back on track?

 

[sojourner]

Yes, but why not get back on track?

Coolcoolcoolcool. Where were we?

 

[savagewind]

I can see that can of worms you opened. I hear you say if a scripture does not match what you believe then discard it. You will certainly change no minds that way. Wait a minute!

 

[savagewind]

Coolcoolcoolcool. Where were we?

Seems a rather more grim outlook than is necessary. One can either choose to 1) love God or 2) hate evil.

Do you think it is not possible to love God AND hate evil? The JWs teach that God hates sin and uses Proverbs 6:16-19 to prove it. What do YOU think?

God is love. When there is love, there is no hate.

I have posted the scripture that they say says God hates originally was written "hates God". They don't believe me. Are we to ignore that scripture altogether or what, according to you?

I think we have to weigh it against what else we know and believe about God. Does this passage inform us or our faith? Does it help or hinder our spiritual freedom?

That is where we were. The question is can a scripture be discarded for disagreeing with our own dearly held opinion?