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How to speak PROPER Australian...
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nazz
Doubting Thomas
We put them in everything here. We bake bread with them, make pies with them, and even put them beignets.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
Is this accurate? It seems off to me...
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NZ and Aussie accent differences. - YouTube
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NZ and Aussie accent differences. - YouTube
What a cutie!
Oh never mind.
Oh never mind.
Nup...she's rubbish.
She's right in that it basically comes down to vowel sound differences (as well as slang), but she's hacking the Aussie accent to death, just like Aussies usually hack the Kiwi one up.
She is around the mark with some of her explanations, but overall it's complete pants.
Sidenote: By the end of my time in NZ, I could pass for a Kiwi pretty easily. Used to be great fun to start conversations in bars bagging Australians, and then let them know the truth...lol
But from what I could tell, this wasn't really because I started sounding like a Kiwi so much as I just stopped sounding like an Aussie. We both seem to have exaggerated ideas of what each other sounds like, so we assume anyone with a more blended accent is 'one of ours'.
It was interesting to me, given my background in teaching. I'm also equal parts blessed/cursed that I pick up local slang, etc, very quickly, for various reasons. I found that ordering a beer in the local manner (eg. a CD, not a Canterbury Draught) meant I was halfway there in terms of being an assumed local. Funniest part was that a bartender in Christchurch responded with 'Oh, sure...nice to have a local here instead of all these Jaffas...' (err...derogatory slang for Aucklanders - Just Another F___ing Aucklander)
So I said, well, actually, I live in Auckland.
You're a Jaffa? Ah well...can't win them all.
And I'm actually Australian. Over here working. So what does that make me?
You're from Aussie? They're the worst Jaffas of all!
(oh...and side sidenote. Kiwi's have this habit of saying 'You're from Aussie' when talking about Australia. Whereas Australians would say they WERE Aussies, from Australia, or maybe Oz if they were getting loose).
nazz
Doubting Thomas
Is it okay to call Aussies "Ozzies"? Or do people take offense at that?
Nup. Not offensive at all. We are Aussies. We do feel a little sorry for the rest of the world about their lack of 'Aussie-ness' but...*shrugs*
So anyway, Australians have been evolving separately from Europeans for about 200 years. Because of that when they migrate to the US we no longer count them as Eurotrash. Now they are just people with the wrong kinds of sports teams.
Aussies don't really migrate to the US. We occasionally ship a few over on a long term loan basis, in the hopes that this will assist your country in becoming cooler.
It hasn't worked to this point, but we have high hopes for you all. However, we suspect that this exchange program will really only work if you start importing one of the following;
1) Australian beer. Like...REAL Australian beer. If anyone says 'Fosters' I will personally unleash my Fists of Fury on them.
2) Australian accents. At the moment, you all seem to have the habit of taking the Australian, but getting them to leave their accents in Australia. Thus you end up with wankers like Mel Gibson. He used to be cool (see Mad Max) but you un-Australianised him, to the detriment of all known universes.
3) Australian attitudes. The problem with you guys is that you seem to care too much about the wrong things (anything related to higher thought, religion, world peace, world war, cold weather, Mexican borders or Colombian drug wars) and not enough about the things that count (ie. beer, sport, and the occasional root).
Choose any one of these, and you'll move up on the coolness radar. Choose all three, and you'll be well on your way to being cool again. Then we can shift our attention to China.
Monk Of Reason
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In your professional opinion what are the distinctive differences between oz accents and New Zealand accents? I have a number of NZ friends but only 2-3 Oz friends. I can hear a difference between them but I can't put my finger on the specifics of what it is.
AUSTRALIAN WORDS FOR BEER
- Beer
- P1ss
- Home Brew
- Frothy
- Bevvy
- Pot/Schooner (ie. glass sizes)
- Cold One/Coldie
- King Brown/Stubbie/Tinny (ie. bottle sizes or a can)
- Slab (or case...depends where ya are...)
- Traveller (beer you take for the car trip)
AUSTRALIAN WORDS FOR NOT BEER
Buggered if I know. Depends on the drink type. But what you guys call soda, we call 'soft drink' which is perhaps indicative of the perceived manliness of non-alchoholic beverages.
Not meaning to inflict mental pain and anguish on you, but Fosters is beer over here. At least, when compared to Bud, Millers, Pabst, Old Style, etc. Naturally, it doesn't come close to real beer (we do have some. They're usually tasty crafts beers, though, and too seldom anything brewed for a national market), but Fosters does get an honorary mention as beer here due to the sorriness of its competition in the pee water market.
Ugh...American beer.
To be honest, from what I've read, there are plenty of decent American beers, but (as you've already said) they're generally not mainstream.
We get Sierra Nevada here, which is mostly good, but expensive. Sam Adams, sometimes, which at least has some taste. The usual suspects, of course (though mostly Millers...and a little Bud. Not really the others like Coors, etc) And an American mate had a stock of something a bit less common. It was Brown Ale, but for the life of me I can't remember the brewer. Struck me as surprising, since I thought Brown Ale was more an English thing. But that was pretty good.
Fosters is ****. We export it, since no-one here is hard up enough to drink it.
Lots of Brown Ale around these days. Lots. Easily available. I had a Pinon Nut Brown Ale about two nights ago from a local brewery here in town. Quite tasty.
I never drank beer growing up. Stuck to bourbon, scotch and other liquors because that was before the craft beer movement.
We seem to agree on Sierra Nevada, and perhaps even Adams (although I won't drink Adams if there's anything else available in the real beer category).
The weird thing, Lewis, is I don't see many Australian beers -- real beers, I mean -- over here. I think you've inspired me though to hie myself down to a local restaurant that features some 300 beers from around the world. What would you recommend to me, assuming they might have it?
First off, I mighta chosen my username wrongly. I'm Dave, so getting called Lewis (whilst completely understandable) always feels wrong...lol
Depends if you're going mainstream or doing the craft thing.
But for what it's worth, here are some the might be available?
Mountain Goat Steam Ale. It's organic, which might be your thing or not. I could care less about that, but it's got it's own flavour. And flavour is important in bear. Mountain Goat generally do good beer.
Little Creatures also do beer with flavour. Personally I prefer Mountain Goat, but Little Creatures Pale Ale may be more commonly available?
If the restaurant is really well-stocked, try a Feral Hop Hog (WA microbrewery) or a Holgate Temptress if you like dark beers. Actually, both breweries are good across the board, particularly with stronger style beers. Have my doubts you'll get them. Feral, in particular, is hard enough to get even here.
I've also heard good things about the Stone & Wood Pacific Ale if you're after a light, summer beer, and Stone & Wood beers generally, but haven't tried them yet.
If you're forced to go really mainstream, then maybe a Coopers Pale Ale (bottle-brewed)?
So, we've talked about beer, although we still need an update from Sunny on any actual, honest-to-God Aussie beers he mighta got his hands on.
Next is food, and the language of food in Australia.
Whilst French is commonly known as a Romantic language, common Aussie is a little more...err...practical. I suppose that's the term.
But in case you're in the area, here are a few common culinary terms, and a few do's and dont's when eating in Australia.
First off, common slang for common food. Dunno if these are common in less amazing parts of the world, to be honest.
Parma - Chicken Parmigiana. Pub staple, this is commonly served with chips, and a piece of wilted lettuce ambitiously called 'salad'. You also generally get a discount on your pot of beer, since Parma 'n' Pot is a nice little selling point to stick on the window.
Snag - Sausages. It's entirely possible to get high quality gourmet sausages here. But if you're offered a snag, you'll probably get a sausage off the barbie (barbecue), cooked to within an inch of it's life, jammed in a piece of bread, and drowned in tomato sauce (err...ketchup?). Fancy friends might slap some cooked onion on top.
Tim Tams - They're a chocolate biscuit. Well...maybe you would call them cookies. I dunno. Anyways, they kinda...well, they look...
Hmmmmm. They taste nice, and here's a link;
Arnott's Australia : Products
Pav - the world famous pavlova. Which may or may not be world famous. I don't really know. It's an Aussie desert named after a Russian ballerina.
Barra - Barramundi. Pretty good eating fish.
Floater - A meat pie floating in some sort of pea and gravy mess. Don't ask me to explain it, it's kinda a South Australian thing. Don't see them much at all outside of South Australia.
Spag Bol - obviously, spaghetti bolognase. Out of interest, does anywhere else say this? I'd suspect there's a good chance it's common, but...
That'll do for now.
I'll post some Aussie culinary facts and tidbits later. When I can be bothered. Not now though. Suddenly I'm hungry.
Next is food, and the language of food in Australia.
Whilst French is commonly known as a Romantic language, common Aussie is a little more...err...practical. I suppose that's the term.
But in case you're in the area, here are a few common culinary terms, and a few do's and dont's when eating in Australia.
First off, common slang for common food. Dunno if these are common in less amazing parts of the world, to be honest.
Parma - Chicken Parmigiana. Pub staple, this is commonly served with chips, and a piece of wilted lettuce ambitiously called 'salad'. You also generally get a discount on your pot of beer, since Parma 'n' Pot is a nice little selling point to stick on the window.
Snag - Sausages. It's entirely possible to get high quality gourmet sausages here. But if you're offered a snag, you'll probably get a sausage off the barbie (barbecue), cooked to within an inch of it's life, jammed in a piece of bread, and drowned in tomato sauce (err...ketchup?). Fancy friends might slap some cooked onion on top.
Tim Tams - They're a chocolate biscuit. Well...maybe you would call them cookies. I dunno. Anyways, they kinda...well, they look...
Hmmmmm. They taste nice, and here's a link;
Arnott's Australia : Products
Pav - the world famous pavlova. Which may or may not be world famous. I don't really know. It's an Aussie desert named after a Russian ballerina.
Barra - Barramundi. Pretty good eating fish.
Floater - A meat pie floating in some sort of pea and gravy mess. Don't ask me to explain it, it's kinda a South Australian thing. Don't see them much at all outside of South Australia.
Spag Bol - obviously, spaghetti bolognase. Out of interest, does anywhere else say this? I'd suspect there's a good chance it's common, but...
That'll do for now.
I'll post some Aussie culinary facts and tidbits later. When I can be bothered. Not now though. Suddenly I'm hungry.
methylatedghosts
Can't brain. Has dumb.
Don't let him deceive you! Pavlova is arguably a kiwi dessert, best served with KIWIfruit...
Bah...what could be more Australian that pilfering Kiwi things and claiming them?
My list remains unchanged.
