Huge gap between humans and animals

[Subduction Zone]

DNA is a chemical structure. Mix any two and you get a chemical variation. You are a variation of your parents DNA mixing, they are a variation of their parents DNA mixing, and so on. No mutations needed.
DNA is not life, but needed for life.
Water is not life, but needed for life.
Life is nothing but chemical reactions, DNA is noting more but chemicals in that reaction.

Your view is overly simplistic and wrong. DNA is made up of chromosomes which are made up of genes. Individual genes do not "mix". This is high school level science. Take eyes for example. The major color is brown or blue. You have two sets of chromosomes, the genes are within them. So for each trait there are two genes governing it. For eyes the brown gene is a dominant gene. If you have one or two brown gene your eyes will be brown. If you have tow blue genes then your eyes will be blue. There is no "mixing" beyond that level. Some genes have quite a few different variations. The question is where did those variations come from?

 

[Gridiron Man]

No, mutations aren't from *mixing* the DNA, but from actual changes in the DNA. Furthermore, the DNA of a child is NOT just a *mixing* of the DNA from the parents: it is simply not true that *all* of the DNA from the parents appears in the children. In fact, the child's DNA is has about half the DNA from each parent.

So, no, I am *not* a mixture of my parents. I am a *merging* of them. But, in addition, there are mutations: actual changes in the DNA between what was in my parents and what is in me.

And no, salt is NOT a 'mixture' of sodium and chlorine: it is a chemical composition made from them. Again, that is a different thing than a mixture. Similarly, a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gases is NOT the same as water vapor. They need to be chemically combined to make water.

I never said mutations are from mixing of DNA. That's variation.

Half of DNA from each parent. A mixture as I said.

You are a mixture of your parents, a variation of your parents.

Mixture or merger. You can't have salt unless you put them together.

 

[Altfish]

You cannot show you have smaller ears or are taller because of a mutation. When you mix two different things together at roughly 50/50 you get variation. Interracial breeding is a good example.

On the giraffes, if the food is so scarce and hard to reach that longer necks are needed to survive, adolescent giraffes(it take a 4 years to reach full grown), that are shorter would never reach adult hood because they would be starved out by adults.

It doesn't happen in a generation.
In the giraffes, only the taller animals would survive to breed, so over a couple of generations they start to breed generally taller giraffes as the shorter ones and their genes start to die out.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I never said mutations are from mixing of DNA. That's variation.

Half of DNA from each parent. A mixture as I said.

You are a mixture of your parents, a variation of your parents.

Mixture or merger. You can't have salt unless you put them together.

You do not appear to understand that DNA is comprised of specific genes. Units that code for specific proteins. Those are not due to "mixtures". One cannot take half of a gene from one parent and half of a gene from another. One can half one whole gene from one parent and one whole gene from another, having different genes, but that is not a "mixture" as you are using the term. Traits are not "mixed" they due to discrete units within DNA.

 

[Gridiron Man]

Your view is overly simplistic and wrong. DNA is made up of chromosomes which are made up of genes. Individual genes do not "mix". This is high school level science. Take eyes for example. The major color is brown or blue. You have two sets of chromosomes, the genes are within them. So for each trait there are two genes governing it. For eyes the brown gene is a dominant gene. If you have one or two brown gene your eyes will be brown. If you have tow blue genes then your eyes will be blue. There is no "mixing" beyond that level. Some genes have quite a few different variations. The question is where did those variations come from?

Of your 23 pairs of chromosomes, each pair is made up of one from each parent. A mix of both. You are a variation of your parents. No mutation needed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of your 23 pairs of chromosomes, each pair is made up of one from each parent. A mix of both. You are a variation of your parents. No mutation needed.

Sorry, but once again that is wrong. Here is a short article that may help you begin to understand:

What is a gene?

 

[Gridiron Man]

You do not appear to understand that DNA is comprised of specific genes. Units that code for specific proteins. Those are not due to "mixtures". One cannot take half of a gene from one parent and half of a gene from another. One can half one whole gene from one parent and one whole gene from another, having different genes, but that is not a "mixture" as you are using the term. Traits are not "mixed" they due to discrete units within DNA.

DNA is a chemical structure, nothing more. Anything you want to say it does or is responsible for is due to chemical reactions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you read that article you will see that most genes have only one allele. That means there is only one variation that is found of it. But that is not the case for all genes. The gene that codes for your eye color has two possible alleles. Some genes have more. One gene has over 4,000 alleles. So once again, where did those variations come from?

https://www.quora.com/What-gene-in-the-human-DNA-has-the-most-number-of-alleles

 

[Subduction Zone]

DNA is a chemical structure, nothing more. Anything you want to say it does or is responsible for is due to chemical reactions.

This post only tells me that you failed high school biology. Please read the links that I gave. I could give more.

Let's review. Genes are specific instructions within the chromosomes. Differences in genes are not due to "mixing". Whole genes are passed on. Most genes have no variation between the two chromosomes. But some do. Of those that do vary more than one variation is possible. Where do those variations come from?

 

[Gridiron Man]

This post only tells me that you failed high school biology. Please read the links that I gave. I could give more.

Let's review. Genes are specific instructions within the chromosomes. Differences in genes are not due to "mixing". Whole genes are passed on. Most genes have no variation between the two chromosomes. But some do. Of those that do vary more than one variation is possible. Where do those variations come from?

Life itself is nothing but a mix of chemicals and a collection of chemical reactions. There is no magic involved.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Life itself is nothing but a mix of chemicals and a collection of chemical reactions. There is no magic involved.

I know that. But you seem to believe in magic. You are the one that cannot answer a reasonable question.

 

[Gridiron Man]

Life itself is nothing but a mix of chemicals and a collection of chemical reactions. There is no magic involved.

I know that. But you seem to believe in magic. You are the one that cannot answer a reasonable question.

If you know that then why are you arguing that DNA is more than a chemical structure and more than chemical reactions?

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you know that then why are you arguing that DNA is more than a chemical structure and more than chemical reactions?

Because your simplistic view of DNA is wrong. Once again, you can't "mix" genes. Some genes have up to 4,000 alleles. Where did those variations come from? I know where they came from, you simply cannot admit it.

By the way, did you know that you personally have on the order of 100 mutations in the DNA that you got from your parents?

 

[Jose Fly]

Of your 23 pairs of chromosomes, each pair is made up of one from each parent. A mix of both. You are a variation of your parents. No mutation needed.

Whether or not mutations are "needed" is irrelevant; the fact is, they occur at fairly regular rates.

Human mutation rate revealed : Nature News

"Every time human DNA is passed from one generation to the next it accumulates 100–200 new mutations, according to a DNA-sequencing analysis of the Y chromosome.

This number — the first direct measurement of the human mutation rate — is equivalent to one mutation in every 30 million base pairs, and matches previous estimates from species comparisons and rare disease screens."​

 

[Gridiron Man]

Because your simplistic view of DNA is wrong. Once again, you can't "mix" genes. Some genes have up to 4,000 alleles. Where did those variations come from? I know where they came from, you simply cannot admit it.

By the way, did you know that you personally have on the order of 100 mutations in the DNA that you got from your parents?

Where did your alleles come from?
How much from each?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Whether or not mutations are "needed" is irrelevant; the fact is, they occur at fairly regular rates.

Human mutation rate revealed : Nature News

"Every time human DNA is passed from one generation to the next it accumulates 100–200 new mutations, according to a DNA-sequencing analysis of the Y chromosome.

This number — the first direct measurement of the human mutation rate — is equivalent to one mutation in every 30 million base pairs, and matches previous estimates from species comparisons and rare disease screens."​

One needs an explanation for the countless observed alleles that there are in the human genome. There apparently is no explanation if one believes the Adam and Eve myth so the defense is to claim that something that is directly observable does not exist.

 

[Jose Fly]

One needs an explanation for the countless observed alleles that there are in the human genome. There apparently is no explanation if one believes the Adam and Eve myth so the defense is to claim that something that is directly observable does not exist.

Denial of observed reality is par for the course for creationists, is it not? I mean, if there was a Creationism 101 site, one of the first things it'd have is a list of all the things creationists must deny (transitional fossils, new genetic sequences, radiometric dating, plate tectonics, pretty much all of cosmology....).

 

[Subduction Zone]

Where did your alleles come from?
How much from each?

The most obvious answer is from mutations. And what do you mean by your second question?

By the way they are not "my alleles". Alleles are directly observed.

 

[Gridiron Man]

You do not appear to understand that DNA is comprised of specific genes. Units that code for specific proteins. Those are not due to "mixtures". One cannot take half of a gene from one parent and half of a gene from another. One can half one whole gene from one parent and one whole gene from another, having different genes, but that is not a "mixture" as you are using the term. Traits are not "mixed" they due to discrete units within DNA.

When talking "specifics" you're talking about purpose and goals.

 

[Gridiron Man]

The most obvious answer is from mutations. And what do you mean by your second question?

By the way they are not "my alleles". Alleles are directly observed.

In somatic cells there are two allels for every gene. One allele comes from each parent