All humans occupy an animal , humans don't age , they progress , only the body ages .
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Do I really have to go into details to prove this ?
Take an handful of matter and throw it into space , let physics do thy work .
Take any chemical element and let chemistry do thy work
Take an handful of cells , let them place in a specific order , let them grow to form complex shapes that physics and chemistry cannot do . Let the complex shapes have the placement of eyes and ears , let them poor creatures see and hear me said the words of logic .
My eyes can see that you're full of **** so drop the Master Yoda act
It makes you look like some lunatic strutting around a madhouse declaring that he's Plato or Aristotle
What you're doing on this forum is actually pretty close to that
I don't know what your expectations for this thread were, unless it is some poor attempt at trolling
LMAO
You mean truth like how the idea that the expansion of the universe is caused by souls and light resting at its periphery is true?
That kind of truth? - According to you that would be an absolute truth! So pardon me for not thinking you're a font of wisdom
Or the idea that humans aren't alive? Which I have shown is illogical if we subject your own definitions to a sensible examination
You still haven't got back to me on that BTW, and I'm still waiting but am not expecting much.......
And now you know how God created humankind!
Yes, you are right that God didn't create humans out of words, you are entirely right there....
Because neither humans nor humanity are made of words
If you want to believe stupid things about things that are at odds with how better informed people think about them then that's your choice, just don't expect others to take you seriously
And I asked you to define "word", please do that
Oh right, so now you're making up scripture? Also:
OH MY GOD IT IS POSSIBLE TO CALL A TREE BY ANOTHER NAME! I'M GOING TO SELL ALL MY POSSESSIONS AND FOLLOW YOU, MASTER, YOU HAVE OPENED MY EYES! IT IS POSSIBLE TO USE TWO DIFFERENT WORDS TO REFER TO THE SAME THING! I AM THEREFORE MADE OUT OF WORDS! THE NAME IS DIFFERENT TO THE OBJECT! THAT IS SO WISE AND ORIGINAL YOU ARE SUCH A DEEP THINKER
Why have you even come on this forum? Personally one of the reasons I came here is to learn and broaden my mind
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Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
Naturalistic explanations for life make your God thing unnecessary, your statements are irrational.
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
A load of jibber gabber, is what he is full of.
No they don't , there is no natural explanation , physics and chemistry can't explain the complexity of human animal form because physics or chemistry can't do that .
Our eyes for example are positioned , that isn't some random mutation because it is repeated over and over when people are born .
I use to think a creator was illogical until I realised that cell placement is very specific compared to what we observe in chemical reactions and physics .
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
A human is any member of the species homo sapiens sapiens. They have this designation due to their DNA and the attributes it gives them. A living being is human from conception -- a human zygote is not chimpanzee or dog or tree. Obviously, humans change greatly over the course of their lives. The amount of dependency varies greatly as well--a six month old depends on his mother for milk, and a 95 year old cannot survive without care either.
I have NO CLUE what you mean when you say, " A human is a formed set of defining words that are hosted by a sentient being." Humans are formed when a sperm enters an egg. Words do not make babies.
You are doing the same as many other readers and not considering the sentient being , being independent of the human being that is formed by words , that exists within them .
God said to me that two bodies occupied by human beings have never caused a war against each other , it is the words inside that cause the war and the innocent bodies to fight .
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Of course, because although most humans are sentient, some are not. A person in a coma is not sentient, but very much is a human.
Are you saying that God audibly talks to you?
At any rate, war is a different topic, so I'll not comment on that.
God doesn't speak to me in voice , God gives me the thoughts of truth and new information .
The sentence on war was more to do with realisation than war , the realisation of how innocent our bodies are compared to the human existence , the words , that occupy and control these poor innocent bodies .
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I'm sure you believe this. The thing is, there is no evidence this is actually God and not just you talking to yourself, with the help of a little dissociation. Indeed, the fact that people who "hear God" in this manner get contradictory messages throws a lot of doubt on it.
Yes of course , I am not hearing voices in my head obviously but I wouldn't be much of a human if I didn't question my own abilities and where these thoughts come from .
New information must come from somewhere in my opinion , some people getting gifted these thoughts , look at computers for instant . The thought for computers was quite ''out there'' to say the least .
But anyway , Jesus is crying out to say something before the thought slips away .
Boy Jesus was walking when he saw a man wearing a gold necklace , he said to his mother , ''mother can I have one of those gold necklaces''?
His mother replied , '' My child , does your body want a gold necklace ? '''
Can you see the truth yet in this thread ?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
In my experience people who "hear God" in this manner never receive any knowledge they haven't already gotten through other means. The things they hear "said" by "God" are things they can figure out for themselves.
I think you have a healthy imagination
You are clearly a very creative person.Yes I am extremely creative and intelligent , my intelligence has made me question these new thoughts though because they are not memories of existing information , they are totally fresh ''from out of space'' .In my experience people who "hear God" in this manner never receive any knowledge they haven't already gotten through other means. The things they hear "said" by "God" are things they can figure out for themselves.
I think you have a healthy imagination
I really feel like just the messenger because all I am really doing is placing an arrangement of words to form a sentence explaining what I see .
I do know what I am writing is very real and truthful .
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It's called an intuitive leap.
I did consider it and even went to great lengths to try and understand it
I then rejected it
There is a phrase I like that can apply to your ridiculous theory: "not even wrong"
But you're arrogant and think you know better than others, even those who know what they're talking about and are educated in that field
Your theory defies both reason and evidence - it is contrary to what we know to be true already only a moron would allow you to convince them and disregard what they already know
Do you expect people to abandon all their knowledge and adopt your stupid little theory?
We already know what a person is and what humanity is, minds greater than any of ours have long since established this and it makes much better sense than what you're offering.....
Your theory is IGNORANT as you obviously have no idea what you're talking about
It's like me trying to convince mathematicians that I've just discovered 1 + 1 = 2 and that therefore pigs can fly, or telling them that 1 + 1 = 136 or that "potato" is a number - those things are essentially what you've been doing
In another post you actually called me a lesser being, a being who is inferior to you, you said you were like a computer running on the most recent operating system and I was like one running on Windows 98
Do you know how insulting and arrogant that is?
And how this makes you look?
Yet you actually think people are like boxes or computers
And you think that other people are so stupid that they don't understand the difference between an object and the names used to refer to it and you think you knowing there is such a difference is an amazing and profound insight but the funny thing is it comes across as though you don't really understand any of this yourself, this everyday notion obviously blows your mind......
Your theory is not even wrong, it's crazy and stupid
Just another bunch of deluded madness on the internet that nobody takes seriously
If what you say is true wouldn't you have won a Nobel Prize or something?
Do you expect to win some medal for your stupid theory?
This is not a theory , this is Gods truth about what are humans !
You are one person and don't speak for everyone , I am quite sure there is many who have understood this truth .
Does my body require a prize ? Of course not and it would be very subjective of me , the human within my body to want something this body doesn't need .
You want , you can't even realise that can you ?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Your mind works in mysterious ways
My mind works the same as everyone else's but me , the human inside this mind has a unique ability to see the truths .
Ask yourself this , the device you are using right now to communicate and share a part of you , who wanted this device ?
You the human or your body ?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I'm not certain.
If you mean that we can reason a bit better then other species, then sure
Your loaded question is noted.
A human is a body.