godnotgod
Thou art That
Now you lie to cover up that this really is you. 'Pretending' my as*!
As I observed:
eeewwww.....what totally vulgar, ignorant and crude piece of crap!
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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?
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Now you lie to cover up that this really is you. 'Pretending' my as*!
As I observed:
eeewwww.....what totally vulgar, ignorant and crude piece of crap!
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
The irony. You and your bendy chum hijack a thread and insult and patronise everyone, then you whinge when people respond in kind.
Just stay down your rabbit hole and stop boring everyone with your pointless quote-mining and fake religion. Cease with your childish point scoring and dishonest tricks.
Hijack threads and proselytize your silly DIY religion on another forum, we have had enough of you here.
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Draft Guinness is nice though, particularly with a shamrock on the head.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Who do you think you are? Do you think you own this thread, that you can decide you stays and who must leave? You make crap up in your own head about others and then project it onto them as if it were true, but its all your own twisted view, and exaggerated one at that. For some reason, you seem to think you are in possession of the gold standard against which all other views must be judged, but I have proven you incorrect on several points, and you know it, but continue to put up a facade, in spite of the fact that I laid down the facts in black and white. Anyway, you don't order me about, though you'd like to think so. The truth is that neither I nor ben have hijacked anything, but you are so fearful that your entrenched applecart is going to be overturned, that you mark what you think is your territory to defend against an imaginary threat to your beliefs. You are like the religious fundamentalist who cannot see the greater truth, clutching instead to that which gives you comfort and security. That is the trouble that the Mahayanist sees with the Hinayanist, and why the Hinayanist is stuck in the old stagnant backwater of Theravada. Your Buddhism has never unfolded, remaining a frozen affair instead, sterile and unproductive. You claim to currently be practising Zen, but you lack the intuitive mind necessary for the powerful mystical experience of Zen called Satori. Instead, your Zen is as stagnant and sterile as your Hinayanist Buddhism. All of your rantings and ravings are just smokescreens to hide this truth. You don't understand the Heart Sutra, you don't understand Hinduism, and you don't understand Zen, yet you continue to flail wildly on about them. And now you take a turn toward the vulgar and crude in your posts, a very un-Buddhist kind of behavior. It smacks of your cocksure and smug attitude.
So who, exactly, do you really think has had enough of who?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
No, I have proved YOU incorrect, exposing your continual dishonesty and misrepresentation, and all the pathetic charades you hide behind.
YOU are the fundamentalist, desperately attached to your ridiculous DIY religion, desperately quote-mining and insulting others to hide the gaping holes and contradictions in your horrible Frankenstein creation.
You are just a tiresome Chopra clone who hijacks threads to proselytize about your fictional new-age god "Absolute". "Absolute" is your comfort blanket and you cannot cope without it.
YOU are the fundamentalist, desperately attached to your ridiculous DIY religion, desperately quote-mining and insulting others to hide the gaping holes and contradictions in your horrible Frankenstein creation.
You are just a tiresome Chopra clone who hijacks threads to proselytize about your fictional new-age god "Absolute". "Absolute" is your comfort blanket and you cannot cope without it.
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godnotgod
Thou art That
Show me where you have proven me 'incorrect'. You lie.
You fail to understand the obvious, that the gross world you perceive is built upon the Quantum world, thinking them two separate 'worlds'.
You fail to understand that the The Unconditioned is none other than The Absolute, and why.
You fail to understand that the Universe can only be The Absolute; that there is no other possibility.
You fail to see that the mind with which all phenomena are seen as empty must be a mind of universal character.
You fail to understand atanu's explanation that he is of the same stuff as the Andromeda Galaxy.
You fail to understand ben d's patient and clear explanations based on sound insight.
You fail to see that I cannot be a fundamentalist, because I have no doctrine to foist on anyone.
You don't understand simple logic at times, as I've pointed out on several occasions.
Your responses to posts are empty of any real content, instead filled with false accusations, and made up poppycock, based on your own fears and prejudices. If you don't agree with something, you categorically dismiss it by simply labeling it 'nonsense' with no further discussion, or you launch into your cookie cutter set of responses, such as:
"You are just a tiresome Chopra clone who hijacks threads and blah blah blah....."
You accuse me and ben d of 'hijacking' threads because you yourself have lost what you think is control. Yes, it seems you are a control freak of sorts, smug and entrenched in your provincial and secure little paradigm. When threatened, you lash out by attempting to discredit via associating others with teachings that don't even exist, such as 'new age pseudo hinduism', something you made up to use to beat them over the head with, in exactly the same manner the Christian fundie uses the Bible as a weapon.
and much more....
The only Frankenstein creation is the one you have concocted in your own mind. Nothingness has no doctrine that can be made into a religion, and neither does The Absolute. Your logic is erroneous and is a tool used only to reinforce your own entrenched, stagnant and dead views, the jewel having been missed, and replaced with a legalistic black and white view of reality.
So stop already. I am hip to your cheap tactics to divert attention away from a deeper understanding and to insist on your off the shelf, prepackaged style of Buddhism.
It's old and it stinks.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Gawd, another wall of blue text, full of half-truths and nonsense. I don't "fail to understand" your preachy pronouncements, I just think they are flawed ideas wrapped in BS. As do others here.
What YOU fail to understand is that most people here are simply not interested in continually hearing about your bizarre DIY religion, or your new-age god "Absolute". You've been preaching the same stuff for YEARS, everyone has heard it a hundred times before, so can't you give it a rest? You are not the least bit interested in what anyone else has to say, so instead of hijacking threads, can't you just write about it in a blog?
What YOU fail to understand is that most people here are simply not interested in continually hearing about your bizarre DIY religion, or your new-age god "Absolute". You've been preaching the same stuff for YEARS, everyone has heard it a hundred times before, so can't you give it a rest? You are not the least bit interested in what anyone else has to say, so instead of hijacking threads, can't you just write about it in a blog?
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godnotgod
Thou art That
Maybe it is only YOU who are tired of hearing it.
I am not preaching anything. The Absolute is not a doctrine that can be preached. I have continually referred to it as none other than The Universe itself. There is nothing inherent in The Universe to preach about in any religious or doctrinal sense. So what are you talking about? You are not thinking things through enough.
If you don't want to deal with it any longer, why don't you answer questions that I've asked in its regard?
For example, is it clear to you that what is absolute means that there is no relative other to which it can be compared?
You call my reference to The Absolute as being a 'bizarre DIY religion'. In broad daylight, you're making crap up. It's like you're a Crap Manufacturing Machine, churning it out at every opportunity. Anyway, just about everything I post is not from my own personal 'DIY' creation, but rather from a solid repertoire of established spiritual and religious concepts, some ancient. What remains is just my putting 2 and 2 together in order to make a connection between them.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
gnostic
The Lost One
Except that energy are detectable, measurable.
And mos important of all, energy required mass.
Energy don't just pop out of nowhere or nothing.
But according to folklore and myths, spirit is incorporeal, therefore has no mass.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
No, I said "The Absolute" is your new-age god, and it clearly IS something you are very attached to, evidenced by your refusal to even CONSIDER that it is a fiction.
You HAVE been preaching a DIY religion for ages, so that is accurate too.
And don't pretend there is any coherence to your Frankenstein creation. What you do is not "2 + 2", it's more like "2 + green = octopus". That is why when challenged you continually have to move the goalposts, often to a different pitch.
So anyway, can we now get back to the thread topic, which is clearly NOT "GnG's DIY religion".
If you don't want to write a blog then maybe you could start a discussion about your DIY religion in the New-age DIR, where people can't challenge your ideas. It's very clear you DON'T want your ideas challenged, you just want to preach.
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
What about dark energy and dark matter?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
In the hope of getting this thread back on topic I am re-posting Legion's OP. I think an important aspect of the question is whether there is another form of "energy" which is outside the usual scientific categories.
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Sirius Star
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The rolling sun tells of those exact same wheels and those will still be those same exact answers. It is called darkness where truth hardly dwells. The vague ones. Why all the politics. Well thank God Hezbollah still leads.
godnotgod
Thou art That
See how you have completely ignored my explanations, and persist in your erroneous assessment?
You don't want to have a discussion; you want to pounce on anything that does not agree with your stagnant entrenched view and immediately label it as 'nonsense' or 'pseudo' this or that, or 'new age', or 'Chopra clone', or some other designed to give the impression of unauthenticity, without further discussion, or refusal to answer questions put to you. You're like water on a hot griddle.
The Absolute, Higher Consciousness, Pure Consciousness, Universal Consciousness, Cosmic Consciousness, The Changeless, That, etc. are NOT phrases that I created. They have been around for a long time, most from long-established religious traditions, and continue in use today by their various practitioners.
Once again, you ignored by question:
"is it clear to you that what is absolute means that there is no relative other to which it can be compared?"
godnotgod
Thou art That
No, I want to show that The Absolute is The Universe; that, contrary to your claims, Buddha said that Nirvana is The Unconditioned, which is another word for absolute
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Stop preaching your DIY religion and get back on topic.
Here is the OP again:
"I've often heard people say that in some sense or another "everything" (whatever that is) is "energy". This confuses me, to put it bluntly. I often work with "energy" as it is "defined" (exists? described?) in modern physics, and this has not helped me understand the assertion that everything is energy. So if any members believe this and would be willing to describe what this belief means (or if any members are more knowledgeable about what this means than I) I would be grateful for an explanation as to what "everything is energy" means (e.g., what is the nature of this "energy"? why ought we to believe that everything is indeed a form of or made out of this "energy"? etc.). Thanks!"
Here is the OP again:
"I've often heard people say that in some sense or another "everything" (whatever that is) is "energy". This confuses me, to put it bluntly. I often work with "energy" as it is "defined" (exists? described?) in modern physics, and this has not helped me understand the assertion that everything is energy. So if any members believe this and would be willing to describe what this belief means (or if any members are more knowledgeable about what this means than I) I would be grateful for an explanation as to what "everything is energy" means (e.g., what is the nature of this "energy"? why ought we to believe that everything is indeed a form of or made out of this "energy"? etc.). Thanks!"
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Maybe you could read the OP again?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Here is the OP again:
"I've often heard people say that in some sense or another "everything" (whatever that is) is "energy". This confuses me, to put it bluntly. I often work with "energy" as it is "defined" (exists? described?) in modern physics, and this has not helped me understand the assertion that everything is energy. So if any members believe this and would be willing to describe what this belief means (or if any members are more knowledgeable about what this means than I) I would be grateful for an explanation as to what "everything is energy" means (e.g., what is the nature of this "energy"? why ought we to believe that everything is indeed a form of or made out of this "energy"? etc.). Thanks!"
"I've often heard people say that in some sense or another "everything" (whatever that is) is "energy". This confuses me, to put it bluntly. I often work with "energy" as it is "defined" (exists? described?) in modern physics, and this has not helped me understand the assertion that everything is energy. So if any members believe this and would be willing to describe what this belief means (or if any members are more knowledgeable about what this means than I) I would be grateful for an explanation as to what "everything is energy" means (e.g., what is the nature of this "energy"? why ought we to believe that everything is indeed a form of or made out of this "energy"? etc.). Thanks!"
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