If you have to choose between two types of women (rebellion vs obedience)

[Marisa]

Where is problem IF husband ask his partner (wife) to make dinner for him or clean her home ?

There isn't until you assign those duties because she's a woman and it's her job. You're a big boy. You can cook your own meals and clean up after yourself. Or did you marry your mommy?

 

[Marisa]

But guys please, what if she wants to kill someone? What then???

That may very well be my line in the sand.

 

[Marisa]

That's depend for the kind of request , and it's effective on our partership life .

It's interesting that you simply accept it as a given that women in your society expect to be subordinate to the men. It's interesting that it doesn't cross your mind that women in your society "accept" this role because, perhaps, the consequences for demanding equality in a relationship are too great.

You've already stated that while you listen to your wife's opinions, they do not constitute any significant portion of your decision making processes and that despite her objections to a choice you make, you'll carry on with a decision she objects to. But what happens to her when she dismisses your objections to a decision she's made and carries on with her choice?

 

[Marisa]

seems had different view about definition of rebellious wife .

For me if my wife dresse sexy dresse and goes out to seduce people , that's rebelious wife.

That's not rebellion. That's someone who doesn't value her marriage vows. It's disrespectful, but it's not rebellious. But you seem to assume that if your wife dresses "sexy" and goes out with friends without you that her sole purpose is to cheat on you. That indicates that you don't trust her. If she's given you reason not to trust her, and that reason would not be simply the way she dresses or that she likes to spend time with her friends, then it's rational for you to distrust her. But if she's given you no reason to distrust her, then the fact that you don't is your problem, you are simply making her responsible for it. Rather than admit to your own emotional shortcomings, you are making your wife responsible for your feelings. That's immature behavior, it's not your wife's problem that you can't get yourself together enough to trust her.

For you if your wife goes to visit her ex-boyfriend (you disagree), because she missed him , i suppose that rebellious ?

I'm friends with many of my ex-boyfriends. Does that automatically mean that I'm having sex with them?

 

[Thana]

obedient : which care about her husband , and take care of him and his house and his kids , and do his normal requests , and informe him about her movements (for exemple If she want to go out to visit her family , she inform him) , she respect and value that he goes out to work and suffered for make her live better life .

rebellious : opposite which above , and plus rebellious woman for me , is once which had no problem to cheat on or seduce others , or disrespect her husband , and argue for everything " trouble maker" , which the marriage for her is worth ZERO ,i mean the couple relation for her is like , log in , log out .

So the choice is between a slave or an adulteress?

I don't know if it's women in general that you don't understand or simply the concept of marriage. But I'll break it down for you - When you marry a woman you should want to be her partner not her master.

 

[Willamena]

Re the OP, I'd choose honesty.

 

[Politesse]

seems had different view about definition of rebellious wife .

For me if my wife dresse sexy dresse and goes out to seduce people , that's rebelious wife.

For you if your wife goes to visit her ex-boyfriend (you disagree), because she missed him , i suppose that rebellious ?

I might be upset about those things (and she would be right to be upset if I were doing the same) but not because she was "rebellious". Adultery is wrong because it is hurtful to the other partner, not because it is an exercise of independence.

 

[Parsimony]

That's depend for the kind of request , and it's effective on our partership life .

for exemple ? .

You ask her not to go somewhere, but she goes anyway versus her asking you not to go somewhere but you go anyway.

 

[Treks]

@Godobeyer

Thank you for staying engaged in your thread. Just wanted to let you know it's good to talk these things through.

I have another question for you, using your definition of rebellion: Do you think a woman is naturally inclined to cheat on you and be rebellious, which is why you need to monitor her movements so carefully? Do you think that if a woman is given the chance to be rebellious, she will?

And if a woman is good to her husband, is she being obedient to you, or is she voluntarily giving her respect to the relationship? So the credit is due to her personality, and not to the husband's good management of her.

 

[psychoslice]

Not playing the game but I think I wouldn't like either woman, I prefer someone in between, a nice balance all round.

 

[LuisDantas]

Isn't the question proposed in this thread highly dependent on the social environment?

It is one thing to have a spouse that is willing and able to work outside and earn his or her own money in a society where people are expected to do that. It is another thing entirely to want to do so in a society that finds such behavior suspect or shameful.

 

[psychoslice]

Voted for the rebellion wife. If she believes in owing "obedience" to another human being, she's not my type.

But at the same time wouldn't a rebellious wife have neurotic issues, like why are they rebellious in the first place, wont they be rebellious to you, and if so could you put up with such woman ?.

 

[Deathbydefault]

My girlfriend is more the obedient type.
I don't really have a preference for women, no types I go after.
However, I prefer my girlfriend so, in a sense, you could say I prefer obedience.

It's not quite that simple, but the closest to true, I suppose.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Hello all


I am just want to know your opinion about if you want to marry a woman , your have just two choices ,

1- the first one : is very obedience , and calm , sensitive ( obedience )

2 -second one is rebellion , reject your requests ,she had strong personality than you ,(rebellion )


+ bonus questions : what is your type you prefer to marry ( i mean the caracteres of your futur woman in mental not body) ?

Would you rather be a Nazi guard at a concentration camp or an elite SS?

 

[psychoslice]

Would you rather be a Nazi guard at a concentration camp or an elite SS?

Just wearing the uniform will do me, I love their uniforms, the Nazis that is lol.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Just wearing the uniform will do me, I love their uniforms, the Nazis that is lol.

*Only if the uniform was taken off of a dead Nazi.

 

[psychoslice]

*Only if the uniform was taken off of a dead Nazi.

Now come on, where is your forgiveness ?.

 

[Godobeyer]

My girlfriend is more the obedient type.
I don't really have a preference for women, no types I go after.
However, I prefer my girlfriend so, in a sense, you could say I prefer obedience.

It's not quite that simple, but the closest to true, I suppose.

once ago i try to engage a girl i discover she is a rebellious , she make me crazy by her stubborn and misrespect . so i break up .

 

[Godobeyer]

I've seen that a lot

You should define what means obedient and rebellious for you in the first place.

sister , thanks for this notice

 

[Godobeyer]

I might be upset about those things (and she would be right to be upset if I were doing the same) but not because she was "rebellious". Adultery is wrong because it is hurtful to the other partner, not because it is an exercise of independence.

Now you get me !

it's run in path to adultery or cheating definition , it's just may a reason , i meant about rebellious is the way of treatement her husband and his family , which close to misrespect ,