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Is Bible Prophesy realible?
- Thread starter d.n.irvin
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Blindinglight
Disciple of Chaos
Sure, allthough my knowledge of evolution is shallow, so I may not be able to accurately verify or correct any comments.
d.n.irvin
Active Member
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I believe so. On the other hand, I wouldn't venture a guess as to how long the "Last Days" are going to last.
d.n.irvin
Active Member
Agreed, the Bible says- to study, pray, and watch for the signs of the Lords return.
And Bible prophecy reveals his coming is very, very, near .
It has said so for some 2000 years, so I suppose "near" is a relative word.
d.n.irvin
Active Member
True, But lets consider "near" in relation to "Bible Prophecy"
What could Daniel have seen so terrible - as to make him faint?
The Bible says that the "End Time" prophecies of Daniel would be "shut up" until the "end of days". And according to Bible Prophecy we are in that time. The "Investigative Judgement" is going on as we speak.
d.n.irvin
Active Member
Amen, Amen
MaddLlama
Obstructor of justice
Nothing else has the ability to fortell the future? Really?
d.n.irvin
Active Member
joeboonda
Well-Known Member
There are folks who foretell future events, like Jeanne Dixon did. Look how many times she was wrong though. But what I am saying is no book of scripture of any other religion dares prophecy as the Bible does. Look at Ezekiel 36:
22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.
24 " 'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land.28 You will live in the land I gave your forefathers; you will be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will save you from all your uncleanness. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and will not bring famine upon you. 30 I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine.33 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it. 35 They will say, "This land that was laid waste has become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins, desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited." 36 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the LORD have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the LORD have spoken, and I will do it.' 37 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Once again I will yield to the plea of the house of Israel and do this for them: I will make their people as numerous as sheep, 38 as numerous as the flocks for offerings at Jerusalem during her appointed feasts. So will the ruined cities be filled with flocks of people. Then they will know that I am the LORD."
In the early parts of the last century, Jews began coming back to Israel from all directions, from many countries, to the land of their forefathers. This land, which had been desolate for centuries now is green and bountiful. Israel is a leading supplier of fruits and flowers to Europe, with God's wisdom they have irrigated the land and made it fruitful, something no one else was able to do. In 1948, Israel became a single nation once again as foretold. Their ruined cities are filled with flocks of people again as foretold. No other ancient tribe has ever been scattered across the earth and come back but Israel. The next chapter describes in detail how Israel comes back together with the illustration of the Valley of Dry Bones. These prophecies have been and are being fulfilled as I type this. Soon all will know the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the Lord.
22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.
24 " 'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land.28 You will live in the land I gave your forefathers; you will be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will save you from all your uncleanness. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and will not bring famine upon you. 30 I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine.33 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it. 35 They will say, "This land that was laid waste has become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins, desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited." 36 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the LORD have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the LORD have spoken, and I will do it.' 37 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Once again I will yield to the plea of the house of Israel and do this for them: I will make their people as numerous as sheep, 38 as numerous as the flocks for offerings at Jerusalem during her appointed feasts. So will the ruined cities be filled with flocks of people. Then they will know that I am the LORD."
In the early parts of the last century, Jews began coming back to Israel from all directions, from many countries, to the land of their forefathers. This land, which had been desolate for centuries now is green and bountiful. Israel is a leading supplier of fruits and flowers to Europe, with God's wisdom they have irrigated the land and made it fruitful, something no one else was able to do. In 1948, Israel became a single nation once again as foretold. Their ruined cities are filled with flocks of people again as foretold. No other ancient tribe has ever been scattered across the earth and come back but Israel. The next chapter describes in detail how Israel comes back together with the illustration of the Valley of Dry Bones. These prophecies have been and are being fulfilled as I type this. Soon all will know the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the Lord.
d.n.irvin
Active Member
So what did everyone think of the 1260 Day prophecy? Here is living proof that we can trust the Bible!
So ask yourself, What is stopping me from actually believing?
- in God
- in the Bible
- in the Seventh-Day Sabbath
- O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? Matt. 14:31
So ask yourself, What is stopping me from actually believing?
- in God
- in the Bible
- in the Seventh-Day Sabbath
- O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? Matt. 14:31
No Bible "prophesy" has been proven more true than if I say "Some day coming, a great nation will lose its power".
Tyre was supposed to vanish according to the prophesy. It's still there. Just an example; not one Bible prophesy more precise than mine has been verified.
Regarding historical accuracy, it's fairly safe to say that if the Bible says something which looks like a historical fact, it's wrong. The walls of Jericho are according to the Bible supposed to have fallen at a time when there was no walled settlement at Jericho. There are no traces whatsoever of the millons who supposedly travelled the deserts from Egypt to Canaan. No global flood.
That the Bible in perhaps two or three cases manages to mention cities or persons that really have existed is no proof. If a Harry Potter book (I haven't read them) mentions London, does this mean that the books reflect reality?
What's stopping me from actually believing? The Bible.
d.n.irvin
Active Member
1260 Day Prophecy
check out post 75-79 in "Is Bible prophecy reliable?"
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55011&page=8
d.n., they are not just my "personal beliefs", but for example the findings of professional archaeologists who for years have tried, tried really hard, to find evidence in the Sinai desert.
For that opinion, and on Jericho and several other corrections to the Bible, a reliable source is Israel Finkelstein & Neil Asher Silberman: The Bible Unearthed.
Regarding the Flood, expert geologists and biologists among others can't find the minutest trace of the gigantic Flood.
The claim that Ezekiel's prophecy against Tyre in Ezekiel 26 was fulfilled with amazing accuracy has also been thoroughly refuted.
And so the list goes on. Not one sufficiently specific prophesy has come true.
For that opinion, and on Jericho and several other corrections to the Bible, a reliable source is Israel Finkelstein & Neil Asher Silberman: The Bible Unearthed.
Regarding the Flood, expert geologists and biologists among others can't find the minutest trace of the gigantic Flood.
The claim that Ezekiel's prophecy against Tyre in Ezekiel 26 was fulfilled with amazing accuracy has also been thoroughly refuted.
And so the list goes on. Not one sufficiently specific prophesy has come true.
d.n.irvin
Active Member
You would be really famous for being the first person in history to prove it. But don't waste time on it. So many people have tried for so many years, and no "proof" holds water.
Prophecies that say that the Temple of Jerusalem will be destroyed, written efter the destruction, obviously don't count.
Blindinglight
Disciple of Chaos
Mars, which has been a desolate waste land for gods know how long, may one day be transformed into a thriving, life filled planet, of which will be able to sustain human life.
The Bible is too vague though. I'm sure in enough time, Israel will be invaded and destroyed again, and eventually will become and independent and thriving nation once again, people will be looking at the same verses you pointed out.
And what if Israel suffers famine in the near future? Then it would mean the Bible is wrong, for God did not keep his promise of not letting their lands suffer from famine.
I would laugh, and tell you to try again.