Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?

[Autodidact]

I still don't get what the oxymoron was. Does anyone else? I don't see it.

 

[Autodidact]

So Carico, Rev. Phelps?

 

[Carico]

No, no, I was looking for a commandment. The part where God commands us not to do it, as he does 613 times in the Old Testament alone. Doesn't God command women not to be lesbians, or not to engage in lesbian sex, or anything? Because I'm sure you agree that God gives us very clear commandments on a wide variety of subjects. Surely, if this one is so sinful, He must have prohibited it somewhere in the thousands of pages in the Bible. No where? Nowhere at all?

What about divorce? What does Jesus tell us about divorce?

God tells us that women having unnatural relations ought not to be done. It's crystal clear. So ignoring that part doesn't take it away. Sorry, nice try.

 

[J Bryson]

God tells us that women having unnatural relations ought not to be done. It's crystal clear. So ignoring that part doesn't take it away. Sorry, nice try.

Where? You still haven't pointed out a single commandment from God.

 

[Carico]

Where? You still haven't pointed out a single commandment from God.

Now that we have a nice census of anti-gay Christians, can any of you direct me to the verse where God prohibits lesbianism? (not where Paul tells a story about it, but where God says "Don't do it.") Thanks.

I was asked to provide a verse where God prohibits unnatural relations between women which I did. So sorry, but throwing out the whole bible except for the Ten Commandments doesn't take God's laws or statements about what humans ought not to do away. He makes it crystal clear. So ignoring His words is a waste of time because one word in the bible isn't any less true than another. Sorry.

 

[J Bryson]

I was asked to provide a verse where God prohibits unnatural relations between women which I did. So sorry, but throwing out the whole bible except for the Ten Commandments doesn't take God's laws or statements about what humans ought not to do away. He makes it crystal clear. So ignoring His words is a waste of time.

Actually, you only paid attention to one part of the request, and intentionally ignored the second part:

Now that we have a nice census of anti-gay Christians, can any of you direct me to the verse where God prohibits lesbianism? (not where Paul tells a story about it, but where God says "Don't do it.") Thanks.

You're not very good at this, are you?

 

[keithnurse]

I was asked to provide a verse where God prohibits unnatural relations between women which I did. So sorry, but throwing out the whole bible except for the Ten Commandments doesn't take God's laws or statements about what humans ought not to do away. He makes it crystal clear. So ignoring His words is a waste of time because one word in the bible isn't any less true than another. Sorry.

And yet ANOTHER example of how poor your reasoning ability is. Quoting the bible doesn't prove homosexuality is wrong or that god thinks it's wrong. Whether you like it or not, all we really know about what God likes or doesn't like is that people say in books like the bible and others that God likes this or doesn't like that. It's all human made up thing.

 

[Autodidact]

God tells us that women having unnatural relations ought not to be done. It's crystal clear. So ignoring that part doesn't take it away. Sorry, nice try.

I didn't ask for you interpretation of the text, Carico, I asked for the text. I can understand them all by myself, thanks.

No, actually, what happens is that Paul tells us a story about some people who turned away from God, and God punished them by, among other things, causing them to have sex that was unnatural for them.

So what you're saying is that God never prohibits lesbianism anywhere in the Bible? Really? In all those thousands of pages and hundreds of commandments, none against lesbianism anywhere? That's so interesting. I wonder why not? And yet you think it's a sin. Just something you dreamt up yourself, is it?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

I thought "unnatural lusts" referred to people wanting Pabst Blue Ribbon beer.

That was an "unnatural lush" and definitely a sin.

 

[Carico]

Actually, you only paid attention to one part of the request, and intentionally ignored the second part:


You're not very good at this, are you?

And you're not very good at reading what God says about homosexuality. But that's okay. God doesn't cater to those who ignore His words. He told you how he feels about homosexuality and if you ignore it, you'll be punished anyway. Sorry.

 

[Autodidact]

I was asked to provide a verse where God prohibits unnatural relations between women which I did.

No, you didn't, and all of us who can read can see that. Saying it's there doesn't make it so, when it isn't.

So sorry, but throwing out the whole bible except for the Ten Commandments doesn't take God's laws or statements about what humans ought not to do away. He makes it crystal clear. So ignoring His words is a waste of time because one word in the bible isn't any less true than another. Sorry.

That's so interesting too. So all the commandments in Leviticus are still in effect then?

And again, what is it that Jesus says about divorce?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

So all the commandments in Leviticus are still in effect then?

Uh oh, I'm in major trouble.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

And you're not very good at reading what God says about homosexuality. But that's okay. God doesn't cater to those who ignore His words. He told you how he feels about homosexuality and if you ignore it, you'll be punished anyway. Sorry.

As I said to the Baptist when they told me all my friends were going to hell and if I didn't get with the program I was going too.

I'd rather share Hell with Autodidact than Heaven with you.

 

[Sunstone]

I'd rather share Hell with Autodidact than Heaven with you.

Ditto.

 

[J Bryson]

If I go to hell, I doubt that it'll be for standing up for my friends whose love is no less strong for connecting somewhat differently from my own.

 

[Carico]

So breaking the rules in Leviticus is sin, or is not?

Absolutely! The OT law is showing just how much we deserve death for how we defile God's creation. Christ's forgiveness is the only thing that takes all of our sins away and renders us perfect enough to spend eternity in heaven with God. If we reject His forgiveness, then we simply have to pay for all of our sins forever.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

If I go to hell, I doubt that it'll be for standing up for my friends whose orientation in love is no less strong for being different from mine.

No worries, I'll save you a seat. I hear the girls are all hot!

 

[Autodidact]

So eating oysters, trimming your beard, building your roof without parapets, mixing your crops, and so forth, are all just as sinful as homosexuality? (And murder?)

 

[J Bryson]

Absolutely! The OT law is showing just how much we deserve death for how we defile God's creation. Christ's forgiveness is the only thing that takes all of our sins away and renders us perfect enough to spend eternity in heaven with God. If we reject His forgiveness, then we simply have to pay for all of our sins forever.

So eating shellfish, wearing clothes from two different fibers, and plowing two crops in the same field are all sins?

 

[Autodidact]

Sunstone and Trey, I love you both, but as I tell all the boys on the net, you wouldn't want me, I'm a short, old, fat, Jewish dyke. But my girlfriend is a luscious hottie.