Is the Super Mario Bros movie anti-woke?

[Father Heathen]

Conservative speaker event at UC Davis canceled after brawl

Officials say a conservative speaker event at the University of California, Davis was canceled after a fight between about 100 protesters and counterprotesters broke out near the venue

abcnews.go.com

UC Berkeley settles lawsuit over treatment of conservative speakers

The University of California at Berkeley on Monday settled a free speech lawsuit accusing the school of discriminating against speakers with conservative views.

www.reuters.com

Protesters were assaulted at pro-life event, now some demand apology from VCU president

Students held a protest on Monday, April 10 demanding an apology from VCU President Michael Rao for a mischaracterization of what developed at a pro-life event on campus, according to attendants.

commonwealthtimes.org

I mean... "attacked".

They're bad eggs and I don't condone it.
Ideas should be openly discussed, examined, and scrutinized, not silenced and censored. Let logic and evidence be the judge.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You have to be more clear. You say I shouldn't oppose someone being treated for a medical issue... I just said if you are an adult you can have all the medical treatments you want. Sounds contradictory to me.

So, in reality, it is about free speech. ie. Don't have an opinion about medical issues. So, you are just proving my point IMV

Why are you entitled to have a medical opinion about another person and/or interfere in their ability to make their own medical decision for themselves? Are you a physician?

 

[Kenny]

They're bad eggs and I don't condone it.
Ideas should be openly discussed, examined, and scrutinized, not silenced and censored. Let logic and evidence be the judge.

WOW! A conservative and liberal can actually agree!

 

[Kenny]

Why are you entitled to have a medical opinion about another person and/or interfere in their ability to make their own medical decision for themselves? Are you a physician?

You must have missed what I said.

 

[The Hammer]

Hardly "cherry picked". It is too abundant to call it cherry picking. One would have to put their hands on their ears and over their eyes to deny it. IMV

You can't call it both a fact (not cherry picked) and "IMV"; it's one or the other.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You must have missed what I said.

I read all of it.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Can a conservative go to speak at a liberal progressive college?
Can a pro-life have a stand without being attacked?
Can a "live and let live" person still express their viewpoint that they don't agree with trans surgery for children?

The answer is a resounding "NO".

Because there is no reason or compassion on the progressive side.

An acquaintance of mine was president of her public university's "pro-life" student group. She'd do demonstrations and hand out leaflets on the campus of what I'm sure you would consider a liberal progressive university.

While her behaviour certainly cost her friends, she was never attacked.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You have to be more clear. You say I shouldn't oppose someone being treated for a medical issue...

I am being more clear, amd I said thaylt because a gender transition is a medical treatment for a medical diagnosis. It's not my fault if you can't comprehend or understand that.

I just said if you are an adult you can have all the medical treatments you want. Sounds contradictory to me.

It sounds contradictory to you because you're trying to say you're something you're not. You are against a medical treatment for a medical diagnosis for children. This means you are NOT live and let live.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Notice how you just eliminated free speech.

Calling out someone as a hypocrite is "eliminating free speech" now?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They're bad eggs and I don't condone it.
Ideas should be openly discussed, examined, and scrutinized, not silenced and censored. Let logic and evidence be the judge.

Except he thinks that representative college in general. It's not.

 

[Father Heathen]

Except he thinks that representative college in general. It's not.

I know.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I know.

Kind of makes me glad I went late so I could observe a lack of rabid loonie libs for myself.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Conservative speaker event at UC Davis canceled after brawl

Officials say a conservative speaker event at the University of California, Davis was canceled after a fight between about 100 protesters and counterprotesters broke out near the venue

abcnews.go.com

UC Berkeley settles lawsuit over treatment of conservative speakers

The University of California at Berkeley on Monday settled a free speech lawsuit accusing the school of discriminating against speakers with conservative views.

www.reuters.com

Protesters were assaulted at pro-life event, now some demand apology from VCU president

Students held a protest on Monday, April 10 demanding an apology from VCU President Michael Rao for a mischaracterization of what developed at a pro-life event on campus, according to attendants.

commonwealthtimes.org

I mean... "attacked".

Did you actually read your last link? The fact you would include it suggests that you didn't.

Edit: for anyone curious, here's the summary:

- an anti-choice group holds a demonstration on campus. Members of the group assault pro-choice counter-protestors.

- a few weeks later, the same anti-choice group holds another demonstration. Pro-choice counter-protestors come out, protesting both their anti-choice positions and the assaults that happened at the previous event.

- physical altercations initiated by both sides ensue.

 

[HonestJoe]

Conservative speaker event at UC Davis canceled after brawl

Officials say a conservative speaker event at the University of California, Davis was canceled after a fight between about 100 protesters and counterprotesters broke out near the venue

abcnews.go.com

UC Berkeley settles lawsuit over treatment of conservative speakers

The University of California at Berkeley on Monday settled a free speech lawsuit accusing the school of discriminating against speakers with conservative views.

www.reuters.com

The first article seems to be about an event being cancelled after violence involving protestors from both sides. The speaker had still been invited and if it hadn't been for the mutual violence, would have presumably been able to speak.

The second appears to be a case confirming what I said. There can be any kind of speakers at any institution if they're invited and there are legal limitations to how restrictive any institution is permitted to be.

That there are sometimes vocal protests is just further freedom of speech, though actually disruptive or violent protest isn't legitimate or legal. That still isn't exclusive to specific issues or types of speaker though. Everyone has the same fundamental rights, responsibilities and restrictions but how they actually pan out will vary depending of specific circumstances.

Incidentally, you didn't give any examples of "liberal" speakers at "conservative" institutions. Looking myself, I did find this interesting commentary on the topic; Thwarting Speech on College Campuses

Protesters were assaulted at pro-life event, now some demand apology from VCU president

Students held a protest on Monday, April 10 demanding an apology from VCU President Michael Rao for a mischaracterization of what developed at a pro-life event on campus, according to attendants.

commonwealthtimes.org

I mean... "attacked".

You do appreciate that was about "liberal" protestors claiming they were attacked at a pro-life event. On the face of it, those protesters didn't act very well themselves though. It's almost as if this isn't a one-sided issue and there are actually flaws and bad-actors on all sides.

 

[Kenny]

You can't call it both a fact (not cherry picked) and "IMV"; it's one or the other.

I stand with my statement. IMV is a courtesy and with respect.

 

[Kenny]

I read all of it.

Not if you came to that conclusion

 

[The Hammer]

I stand with my statement. IMV is a courtesy and with respect.

: Creative : : optimistic :

 

[SkepticThinker]

I stand with my statement. IMV is a courtesy and with respect.

You stand by your statement and apparently won't answer my questions about it.
Okey dokey then.
I'll just sit around and wait for the day when you finally answer a question. I won't hold my breath.

 

[Kenny]

I am being more clear, amd I said thaylt because a gender transition is a medical treatment for a medical diagnosis. It's not my fault if you can't comprehend or understand that.

Oh I understand. It is your progressive viewpoint that makes your statement seem so upset. It's like you are saying "I don't agree with you and you aren't allowed to have a different opinion".

It sounds contradictory to you because you're trying to say you're something you're not. You are against a medical treatment for a medical diagnosis for children. This means you are NOT live and let live.

Hardly. There is no substantive study that supports your position while there is ample evidence of children changing their position as they grow - thus "18"

Sweden, a leading trans-affirming country, has now made a U-turn because the evidence is overwhelming in my favor.

Sweden’s Karolinska Ends All Use of Puberty Blockers and Cross-Sex Hormones for Minors Outside of Clinical Studies

Update May 08, 2021: Following a new policy statement from the Karolinska Hospital that went into effect May 2021, this article has been updated to reflect the changes. Update February, 2022: Sweden's National Board of Health and Welfare has followed the Karolinska's lead and issued a national...

segm.org

You are starting to sound like you are for experimentation on children.

 

[Kenny]

You stand by your statement and apparently won't answer my questions about it.
Okey dokey then.
I'll just sit around and wait for the day when you finally answer a question. I won't hold my breath.

Because your question was based on a false premise. How do you want me to answer a false question?