Is there Really only one True Religion?

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3: THE ASSYRIAN

SO -Who is this Assyrian TODAY which takes away the daily 1,290 days before he and his army (others will be present) make Jerusalem (temporarily) desolate???????

Bear with me -I'll get to that in this post -but first, some background

The nation of Israel -the "twelve tribes" -split into two houses due to civil war: The House of Judah, and the House of Israel.

The house of Judah includes primarily Judah, Benjamin, and some Levites.

The house of Israel consists of the other tribes. (the twelve tribes have actually changed a bit over time -as some lost 'tribehood' for this or that reason, but originally...) Reuben, Simeon and Levi (the Levites were spread throughout all 12 tribes as priests), Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali & Joseph

Those of the house of Judah retained much of their identity and their original language.

Those of the house of Israel did not.

They are often referred to as the "lost tribes". There is much specualtion about where these tribes went -and many claim to be descended from them. Here is an address to a Wiki on the subject....

Ten Lost Tribes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is little doubt in most minds about who is a "Jew" these days -but not all understand that the Jews are only a small part of the whole of Israel. Many claim to be descendents of the lost tribes -some rightly so -but many who are their descendents have no clue.

From the above Wiki...

"The phrase Ten Lost Tribes of Israel refers to the ancient Tribes of Israel that disappeared from the Biblical account after the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, enslaved and exiled by ancient Assyria"

The YET-FUTURE (at that point and somewhat even now) relationship between Israel and Assyria is outlined -in the form of riddle and parable -in Ezekiel 17 - which begins...

Eze 17:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel;

(this is addressed to the house of Israel -not Judah -to the "lost tribes")

Eze 17:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A great eagle with great wings, longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar:

The cedar is identified in Ezekiel 31 as THE ASSYRIAN....

Eze 31:3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs.

SO.... Ezekiel 17:3 refers to the highest branch of THE ASSYRIAN. Disregarding the great eagle at this point, let's look for the highest branch of the Assyrian...

The Assyrian is a people/kingdom likened to a tree -so the highest branch would be the last thereof. Though the Assyrian bloodline continued, the Assyrian Empire ended with the reign of Ashur-Uballit II. He reigned 3 1/2 years -from 612 to 609 B.C. -

Ashur-uballit II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eze 17:4 He cropped off the top of his young twigs, and carried it into a land of traffick; he set it in a city of merchants.

The above describes the flight northwest from Nineveh to Harran of the warring and ruling class of Assyria. Harran was located between the Tigress and Euphrates -on tributaries of both. It was indeed a city of merchants...

Harran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eze 17:5 He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful field; he placed it by great waters, and set it as a willow tree.

The above describes the migration -over time -of the descendents of these Assyrians to the fruitful field by great waters we know as Germany. The roots of a willow grow toward the water -and the leaves grow down into the water.

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~beribea...es/willow3.jpg

SS officers were required to be of pure Aryan descent for so many generations. This actually means to be of Assyrian descent. These Nazis knew they did not originate in Germany -did much research -and even planned to reclaim their original homeland -generally, the area around Iran and Iraq -Where the Assyrian empire was located. The history of these Aryans after the Assyrian empre fell is almost as obscure as that of the tribes of the house of Israel, but here are a few bits on the subject...

From: Vril Society - Crystalinks

"The term Aryan derives from the ancient peoples who lived in Iran (see also Iranian peoples) and the Indus Valley. Following the ideas of Gobineau and others, the Nazi theorist Alfred Rosenberg claimed that these were a dynamic warrior people who originated in northern climates, from which they migrated south, eventually reaching India. They were supposed to be the ancestors of the ancient Germanic tribes, who shared their warrior values. Building from Nietzsche, who stated ³it is quite in order that we possess no religion of oppressed Aryan races, for that is a contradiction: a master race is either on top or it is destroyed² (The Will to Power, 145), Rosenberg claimed that Christianity was an alien Semitic slave-morality inappropriate to the warrior Aryan master race and thus supported a melange of aspects of Vedic and Zoroastrian teachings, along with pre-Christian European paganism, which he considered to be distinctively Aryan in character."

OK -so they also looked for Atlantis, but they were getting warmer. The reputation and tactics of the ancient Assyrian army was in fact remarkably similar to those of the Nazis. Their cruelty was such that many peoples simply left everything when they heard the Assyrians were on the way.

The historical "Who's who?" gets a bit fuzzy, as Babylon and Assyria were almost inseparable for a time -and "Aryan" is used in different ways, but you get the general idea.

Anyway -this is getting lengthy, so, for now -we'll draw an imaginary line on an imaginary map northwest from Nineveh to Haran to Germany.

This is the first part of one side of the parable.

(I have asserted before that the name given to the last Assyrian king -Ashur-Uballit II {"May Assur [the Assyrian god] Give Life"} is linked to the modern German phrase "uber alles" {"above everything else"}, but perhaps prematurely -still researching that.) (The Assyrians apparently spoke a dialect of the Akkadian language and employed cuneiform writing.)

The Assyrian will be one who eventually takes control of the EU.

From: EU Army

THE idea of a pan-European economic and political union with its own defence force was conceived by SS officers according to documents released today to the Public Record Office in Kew. Maj Gen Ellersiek and Brig Mueller, Hitler's chief of staff during the Battle of the Bulge, came up with the idea as a means of keeping Nazism alive following the expected Allied victory in the Second World War. By March 1946, Ellersiek was in charge of an underground political party called Organisation Suddeutschland. It believed in the establishment of a fully-armed United Europe, Ellersiek told a British intelligence official masquerading as a Foreign Office representative. "What was important was that Britain should realise that if Europe was to survive, we should all think 'as Europeans'," the ex-SS man was quoted as saying. The party's manifesto called for "a pan-Europe as a balance between Russia and the USA". Although the European nations would remain "independent", finance and defence matters would be decided centrally. "The good which was in Nazism still lives in the German heart," Ellersiek said. His party offered "a new revolution for Germany which will set the pattern for Europe". This revolution is to be the work of the new elite, the German prototype of the future rulers of Europe . . . which has emerged purified from Nazism and the trials of war." (Daily Telegraph 15/2/01)

His issue with "the daily" is not so much that they preach the gospel of the kingdom, but that they also prophesy before many nations concerning the beast's (and associates') activities, identity, roots, etc..... and he'd rather that some things be a "surprise" -to say the least.

 

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Why would there be one true religion when there is no one true human?

 

[Etritonakin]

Why would there be one true religion when there is no one true human?

Because there is one true God.

 

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Because there is one true God.

Why would there be one true god?

 

[Etritonakin]

4: THE MARK OF THE BEAST (PART 1)


Those who do the daily have also prophesied -since the fall of Nazi Germany -that they would rise once again over Europe -as bible prophecies explain. The Nazis took more notice than we did -because they had already made plans to rise again over europe -as eventually revealed by our own declassified intelligence documents. They have been following the goings-on of the daily -and have raised people against the daily -wherever it is done.
They not only use some whose religious beliefs differ from those of the people who do the daily, but also the underworld/witches/occult (synagogue of Satan) and others. These are described as the host given to him (king of the north/king of fierce countenance/ beast/ prince of Tyrus/"the" Assyrian) against the daily. The daily will be taken away -and they will also pursue the servants of God who go into the tribulation. Though the daily has not yet been taken away, I have seen these things happening. I feel responsible to tell them.

Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. Dan 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. Dan 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

When the daily is taken away, tribulation begins -and it begins with the modern nations of the house of Israel -the U.S., Britain, Australia, etc...
though the house of Judah's (Israel's) troubles will also begin with their neighbors around that time).

It is in the heart of the Assyrian to "cut off nations not a few" -but this will begin with the U.S. and its allies. We are the first casualties as he "destroy"s "wonderfully".

Those who do the daily are those who keep the sabbath and holy days of God -and preach the gospel of the kingdom before the end comes.

When the daily ceases, great tribulation begins -and those who have faithfully done the daily will be protected by God -led by God into the wilderness -during the tribulation.

Part of the gospel of the kingdom is the importance of the sabbath and holy days of God. The sabbath foreshadows the millenium Christ will reign on the earth -and the saints with him -beginning at the last trump. This includes the fact that those who have died -even in Christ -are not "in heaven" or "hell" or purgatory -but their spirit is with God who gave it -yet they are unaware -they are "asleep" -until resurrected at the first resurrection -at the last trump -and that the rest of the dead do not live again until resurrected to the judgment after the thousand years -and that many will receive life then, also.

Part of the gospel of the kingdom is that the holy spirit is not a person. It is the spirit of God. If one does not know that one must keep the sabbath commandment, one cannot repent of not doing so. If one does not understand that the spirit of God is not a person -God will not put his spirit within them. If God does not put his spirit with a person, and that person has not repented of sin -not knowing that sin includes all of the commandments -that person will not be raised at the first resurrection.
It also includes the fact that God is not calling all people in this time -and that those who have never heard of Christ or the kingdom of God are not doomed -nor are those who have heard but have not been called and innocently remained in error -they are not lost -and that God will reveal these things to them later. Even though many hear -God has not yet given all "an ear" to hear.

Part of the gospel of the kingdom is the fact that keeping God's holy days rather than man's holidays is part of the first commandment -part of having no other Gods before him! The holy days were given to teach the plan of God -Passover -which looked toward and now commemorates Christ's sacrifice. Unleavened Bread -which reminds us to remove sin from our lives so that Christ's body was not given in vain -and recalls how God led Israel out of Egypt -and is leading his people out of bondage to sin. The feast of firstfruits/ingathering/pentecost which foreshadowed and commemorates the day of Pentecost when God began to pour out his spirit upon a great many -beginning the harvest of the firstfruits of his labor -and reminds us that those who are raised at the first resurrection are indeed but the firstfruits!
(Jas 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.)

The feast of trumpets/memorial of the ****ing of trumpets which foreshadows the seven trumpets in Revelation -especially the last trump -when the kingdoms of the earth become Christ's -and the firstfruits are made immortal. It is also a reminder for those who see what is about to happen to **** the trumpet, as it were, so that the people may be prepared.
Since those who do the daily see what is about to happen -and why God has pronounced that these things should happen -and know what God would have men do and not do, they are held responsible by God to tell it... just as God held Ezekiel responsible...

Eze 33:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 33:2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
Eze 33:3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he **** the trumpet, and warn the people;
Eze 33:4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
Eze 33:5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
Eze 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and **** not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
Eze 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
Eze 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Eze 33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

The day of atonement -wherein people fast to draw near to God and loose the bonds of sin -which reminds us that foregiveness is possible -and the death penalty may be stayed -because of the sacrifice of Christ.

Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Rom 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

(Continued in next post..............)

 

[Etritonakin]

5: THE MARK OF THE BEAST (PART 2)

Lev 16:29 And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:
Lev 16:30 For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.
Lev 16:31 It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever.

Lev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28 And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29 For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30 And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31 Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

Isa 58:5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?
Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy reward.
Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger,
and speaking vanity;
Isa 58:10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:
Isa 58:11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

The feast of tabernacles -which foreshadows what it will be like during the thousand years. A second tithe is saved by the congregation throughout the year -and used to keep the holy days -especially the feast of tabernacles in temporary dwellings. During that week, that tenth of their increase is spent on whatever ordinate desires they may have, and on offerings should they choose- above any offering which is according to how they have been blessed. (the first tenth is given for the preaching of the gospel -to "buy the truth and sell it not").

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

The last great day -which foreshadows the "last day" often spoken of -which not only includes the day of God's wrath, but when God and Christ raise people to immortality -not only in the first resurrection -but at the judgment after the thousand years...

Joh 7:33 Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me.
Joh 7:34 Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come.
Joh 7:35 Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?
Joh 7:36 What manner of saying is this that he said, Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come?
Joh 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Joh 7:40 Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.

Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
Amo 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
Amo 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Amo 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Joe 2:1 **** ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Neh 8:18 Also day by day, from the first day unto the last day, he read in the book of the law of God. And they kept the feast seven days; and on the eighth day was a solemn assembly, according unto the manner.

This is the truth that is being cast to the ground -this is the gospel of the kingdom -this is the daily which is about to be taken away. This is what is ceased just before great tribulation begins.

 

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6: THE MARK OF THE BEAST (PART 3)

Many will realize this is the truth only when experiencing the tribulation -and a great multitude will turn to do that which God commanded -washing their robes in the blood of the Lamb. However, though -as it was when Israel was in captivity (many during the tribulation will be in captivity) -keeping some of the holy days as instructed will be difficult -but one can still refuse to do work on God's sabbaths -including not only the weekly -but annual sabbaths of the holy days wherein we are told not to work. Some will be killed for refusing to work on the sabbath or break the weekly sabbath commandment by their taskmasters (if in captivity) and others -but they will be raised at the last trump.

The sabbath is a sign between God and his people -as are the holy days of God -as frontlets between their eyes and as a sign on the hand. Anything else is the mark of the beast -which the second beast -causes them to receive -in their forehead and right hand -in what they believe and do.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Those that keep the sabbath and holy days of God will again be persecuted and killed -kept from buying or selling not by a physical mark or chip -but because they are shunned by those who believe differently.

I do not say these things in hatred or disrespect.
I understand this seems ridiculous to many -and may even be seen as blasphemous, but please consider these things. These things have begun -please consider them before great tribulation is upon us.

Many know that at least that the worldy parts of what I say are true -but do not warn the people -not understanding that having vision might help them make better choices now -which might even prevent catastrophe should God see reason to relent.

I'd like to point out that I am not anti-Catholic -or anti-anything else, for that matter. The Roman Catholic Church will play a part in these matters. Some have been offended that I have indicated that the Catholic church will be in any way associated with the beast (the one most would describe as "the antichrist") -but most will be unaware of what is happening until it is too late. The Roman Catholic Church has relations with the E.U. -it would be almost impossible for them not to. Some in that church see the strength of the E.U. as beneficial to the goals of the Catholic church -just as some in the E.U. see the strength of that church as beneficial to their goals. It is not as if the Catholic church will be thinking "Hey, there's the antichrist -I wanna be his buddy" -they just won't understand what is happening -they won't see it for what it is. Their relations will not necessarily always be friendly, either -and will certainly not end well. Those who eventually control the EU will also eventually destroy that church..
Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
Some will also be offended because I say that church is that which is decribed as a harlot in Revelation -and which is drunk with the blood of the saints. Yet it does what a harlot does -though spiritually. Since its beginning, it has traded its "purity" for its keep. It has compromised with the commandments of God to please men and gain power -and this has lead to its being used against those who do keep the commandments and holy days of God (the sabbath and what are considered "Jewish" holidays)-whether they believe in Christ or not -as well as aligning with human governments against them.
This is not to say that Catholics are "bad" -not at all -they are some of the most sincere and genuinely concerned and loving people I have met -many who are now Catholic will have great reward in the kingdom of God -though they will first come to understand that many of the teachings of the Catholic church are not what God would have them teach -and not what God would have people do. It is the institution itself which is the problem -not the sincerity of any of its members. Crusades, inquisitions, etc.. -it has had a bloody past -and will have a bloody future. Most of today's Catholic leaders -regardless of beliefs -are sincere, decent people who would not dream of ever doing the things that will be done, but dark forces will creep in -and things will transpire -to cause what is written. Things will spiral out of control. This will be in a time of great tribulation -and people will essentially be freaking out as the world is tearing itself apart. Much anger will travel to be directed at those who keep the sabbath and holy days of God. The beast already acts against them -and stirs the host he is given against them, and many will see their own beliefs as justification for their anger against them -even thinking them to be "anti-Christ".

 

[Etritonakin]

The Sabbath is for the Jews. Christians worship in he Lord's Day, the day Crist rose from the dead.

Jesus was NOT Crucified on a Friday, but on the "Preparation of the Passover". There are seven "High Sabbaths" every year, and the Passover always has a specific preparation day for the special ceremony which landed on Wednesday that year.
Just because the verses say it was a preparation day for "a Sabbath" doesn't mean it was the weekly Sabbath. However, all the gospels do say it was the ANNUAL SABBATH CALLED PASSOVER.
Jhn 19:31 "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."
This verse doesn't say it was the 6th day of the week. However, it does say in context that it was the preparation of Passover:
Jhn 19:14 "And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"
Where do these churches get it wrong calling this the Weekly Sabbath of Friday? If you read on you shall see it is an impossibility! It can only make sense that Wednesday was the day of His crucifixion, at 3PM. He rose on the 7th Day Sabbath Day we know as Saturday at 3PM. The rest of the biblical accounts confirm His resurrection day was Sabbath, because they didn't find Him in the empty tomb when it was even still Dark Sunday morning! If He was already gone before Sunday began, then this is more evidence He wasn't crucified on Sabbath, and then already gone within 1 day. He had to stay in the grave three days AND three nights. They couldn't find Him early in the wee hours of the morning, while it was still dark on Sunday because He had risen the previous day, on Sabbath, on schedule.

No verse in the scripture says that He arose ON the "first day", but they all say He was already gone when they were there, BEFORE the First day had dawned!

Matthew 28:1 "In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher."

Notice it says "in" the Sabbath, not "after".

From... The Sabbath of YAHWEH

 

[McBell]

Oh my goodness!
He must be right!
I mean, look at all those verses he has posted!!!

 

[Etritonakin]

Why would there be one true god?

What do YOU mean by the word "true"?

God is the one true God because he...
-exists
-created all things
-is all-powerful... none can thwart his purpose, and he is able to act anywhere without having to be present in body.
-is all-knowing... nothing can be hidden from him -he is able to perceive and know all things at all times without being present in body.
-created us -has our best interest at heart -acts in our best interest -and everything he tells us to do is in our best interest.
-is able to raise the dead to life again.
-declared the end from the beginning -from ancient times the things that would be in the future.

...and much, much more.

Though the Father is in authority over Christ (the "Word" who became flesh as Christ) -and is technically God TO Christ (their calling each other Father and Son is not literal -but analogous -so that we might understand their relationship through the family unit he created with man, woman and child [the church is analogous to "the mother of us all"]) , both together are the one true God because...
-they have always existed together
-are both without beginning of days or end of life.
-have never been separate
-are never in disagreement
-worked together to create all things -the Father essenially designing and deciding -the Word going forth and doing.

..etc..etc...

In fact -it is the Word which often dealt with men (as Melchizedek with Abraham, and I AM with Moses) -though the Father is directly quoted -such as when the voice was heard when Christ was baptized..

Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

 

[Etritonakin]

Oh my goodness!
He must be right!
I mean, look at all those verses he has posted!!!

Try actually reading them -you might get a clue!

You get a cyber-smack up aside the head for that one!
:slap:

 

[McBell]

Try actually reading them -you might get a clue!

You get a cyber-smack up aside the head for that one!
:slap:

Oh please.
Presenting your chosen deities propaganda is in absolutely no way anything but presenting propaganda.

 

[Etritonakin]

Oh please.
Presenting your chosen deities propaganda is in absolutely no way anything but presenting propaganda.

Obviously a conclusion you arrived at after serious study and consideration of my posts. (That was sarcasm -in case you didn't realize it.)

..and it would be ---"deity's"---- or ----" deities' " if plural ---" (That was just plain old-fashioned condescension -but in good humor)

Vizzini: As I told you, it would be absolutely, totally, and in all other ways inconceivable.

Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[LoTrobador]

These Nazis knew they did not originate in Germany -did much research -and even planned to reclaim their original homeland -generally, the area around Iran and Iraq -Where the Assyrian empire was located.

Following the ideas of Gobineau and others, the Nazi theorist Alfred Rosenberg claimed that these were a dynamic warrior people who originated in northern climates, from which they migrated south, eventually reaching India.

(Emphasis added.)

Wouldn't those two sentences present an entirely different view of the original homeland of the Aryan race?...

 

[Etritonakin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Etritonakin
These Nazis knew they did not originate in Germany -did much research -and even planned to reclaim their original homeland -generally, the area around Iran and Iraq -Where the Assyrian empire was located.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Etritonakin
Following the ideas of Gobineau and others, the Nazi theorist Alfred Rosenberg claimed that these were a dynamic warrior people who originated in northern climates, from which they migrated south, eventually reaching India.

(Emphasis added.)

Wouldn't those two sentences present an entirely different view of the original homeland of the Aryan race?...

No.

Possibly, but not necessarily.

When I wrote "original", it is as far as it is relevant to the subject I am discussing -as in "originally" from Assyria before migrating to what is now Germany -not that it was necessarily their absolute beginning.

They certainly inhabited ancient Assyria, but this is not to say they did not get there from elsewhere. Rosenberg's claim (note that it says he was a "theorist" with a "claim") may have been correct, but in a different time period. As I recall, I did not quote him in an attempt to prove they inhabited ancient Assyria, but it just happened to be included in a paste which I pasted to underscore another point. I will look up the post you quoted and edit this as necessary.

I will also look up references to my assertion that the Nazis planned to capture the area around Iraq in order to recapture their "homeland". I had meant to in the post you quoted, but never got around to it.

EDIT: I think I was trying to point out their interest in finding their origins, and had meant to add another reference to their identifying Assyria as at least one of the places they'd been (and probably the most notable as it related to pride in their "dynamic warrior" background) -and if Rosenberg was correct, they would have had to go from India to Germany by some route -and Iraq is pretty much smack dab the halfway point between India and Germany. However, I have not actually researched much before the Assyrian empire.

 

[LoTrobador]

I understand now, thank you for clarification. I'm afraid, though, that the term original homeland might not be the most adequate (as it would imply preceding all others in time; first), but I see your point.

 

[Etritonakin]

I'd change it, but there is no edit button there. -just disregard it. Did they put a time limit on edits or what?

Any other issues?

 

[Hawkins]

Perhaps you missed the fact that just about every religion is about purifying yourself so you can join God's presence.
Even the Jewish faith is deeply concerned with this... they just don't rely on a proxy to save themselves.

Perhaps you failed to realise that people can't keep the religions originating dogma to be with God (by the standard of those set forth dogma). It is not difficutl to do the speculation, isn't it?

So what about religions where the individuals witness personally not from a book?

If they failed to keep their witnesses into a book, how can they know that witnessing is important? Actually for the truth of God to be convey, there is no other efficient method other than witnessing and testimonies.

Really? You need to keep learning about other faiths.
Pretty basic for nearly all religions.
Hardly... Most religions have purification rituals for the atonement of the individual when they stumble. Few rely on someone else to save them but work toward saving themselves. Christians have the weakest form of atonement for their sins of all the major faiths I've ever studied. You just have to say "woops"... Hardly inspiring IMHO.

How many can keep their purification up the religion's standard? It's not about which religion has ritual purification or not. It's all about how many people can keep that dogma in order to be with God. Say buddism requires strict karma for people to go to heaven. And in accordance to such a standard, almost none can meet such a standard. Which says, they are not aimed for humans to abide by in the first place.

Perhaps you missed how many Jews, Native Americans, Native Australians, Native Africans and so on died to preserve and defend their religions?

Like I said many times. It's again not about how people behave religiously, it's about whether people can abide by the dogma defined in their relgion. And they don't. Moreover, to die for a religion is different from claiming a witnessing then die for it.

Christians are hardly unique... Honestly bringing up your ancient martyrs is hardly going to convince people who have martyrs much closer in memory.

Again, martyr for witnessing is different from martyrdom for a already formed religion.

This does nothing to support your case... Just about every religion does this.
How is Buddha any different in this regard? Or Hiawatha? Or White Buffalo Woman?
Yeah and there are plenty of people that will point out that Isaiah could just as easily have been warning the Jews against Jesus. People read into the story what they want to hear... Some Muslims claim he was talking about Mohammad ...that is the nature of most prophecies.

It is easy. Just search for the word of prophecy will do the job. Similarly, do a search of the word 'faith' will do the job of seeing the religions' self-awareness about faith. But if you prefer to living in denial. I can't help that much.

 

[painted wolf]

If they failed to keep their witnesses into a book, how can they know that witnessing is important?

Because they do it themselves instead of reading it in a book...

Actually for the truth of God to be convey, there is no other efficient method other than witnessing and testimonies.

And what is more efficient than first person rather than old stories by people who lived thousands of years ago and have been rewritten dozens of times?

How many can keep their purification up the religion's standard? It's not about which religion has ritual purification or not. It's all about how many people can keep that dogma in order to be with God.

Well, seeing how lousy even the supposed flock leaders in some book faiths do... mine is doing pretty good in that regard.

Say buddism requires strict karma for people to go to heaven. And in accordance to such a standard, almost none can meet such a standard. Which says, they are not aimed for humans to abide by in the first place.

Everyone... Buddhism isn't a one shot deal, you get to keep working at it until you get it right. So technically eventually everyone will make it. Not bad really.. much better than being tortured for eternity for a simple mistake or accident of chance.

Like I said many times. It's again not about how people behave religiously, it's about whether people can abide by the dogma defined in their relgion. And they don't.

Really, you are able to judge everyone in every other religion and how well they do at keeping their religions rules. Wait... are you god?

Moreover, to die for a religion is different from claiming a witnessing then die for it.

Orly? How do you know my martyrs and other martyrs weren't witnessing? To be willing to die for your faith is frankly a witnessing in and of itself.
I hate to break it to you but just because you want your martyrs to be special doesn't magically make it so. And fudging the definition of martyr to only fit your gang is just sad.

Again, martyr for witnessing is different from martyrdom for a already formed religion.

Martyr for refusing to convert is witnessing in the highest form... I'm sorry you don't get to play the special ones on this.

It is easy. Just search for the word of prophecy will do the job. Similarly, do a search of the word 'faith' will do the job of seeing the religions' self-awareness about faith. But if you prefer to living in denial. I can't help that much.

LoL that is rich...
Just because you guys get hits on google you think that proves anything?
Apparently, I'm not the one swimming in the big river :biglaugh:

wa:do

 

[Hawkins]

Because they do it themselves instead of reading it in a book...

It's hard to discuss with your kind because it seems that you are incompetent in logical thinking.

It's not about if they do it or not, it's about how well they do it in accordance to their own defined dogma.

So, try again.

Really, you are able to judge everyone in every other religion and how well they do at keeping their religions rules. Wait... are you god?

What's this? We do speculation doesn't mean that we are judging. When you lose the argument you side track the issue and accuss others of something totally irrelevant.

Everyone... Buddhism isn't a one shot deal, you get to keep working at it until you get it right. So technically eventually everyone will make it. Not bad really.. much better than being tortured for eternity for a simple mistake or accident of chance.

Your style of living in denial. It's extremely difficult for normal humans to achieve the karma as specified by the Buddhism which makes it very impractical, in comparing to Christianity.

Orly? How do you know my martyrs and other martyrs weren't witnessing? To be willing to die for your faith is frankly a witnessing in and of itself.
I hate to break it to you but just because you want your martyrs to be special doesn't magically make it so. And fudging the definition of martyr to only fit your gang is just sad.

Again you are so clueless about what I am talking about. Christianity was spreaded so quickly because those who claim to have witnessed Jesus Christ's deed are willing to martyr. It is this direct witnessing which is believed to be the driving force for the quick and wide-spread of Christianity.

LoL that is rich...
Just because you guys get hits on google you think that proves anything?
Apparently, I'm not the one swimming in the big river :biglaugh:

I don't know if you are trying to dodge or to live in denial or you mis-comprehend again, it seems that you try to simply ignore the plain fact that Bible contains much more instances about the mentioning of both faith and prophecies.

And you even end with a laugh sign..amazing!