Let's take Trump at his word

[We Never Know]

From CNN

Former President Donald Trump is planning a widespread expansion of his first administration’s hardline immigration policies if he is elected to a second term in 2024, including rounding up undocumented immigrants already in the US and placing them in detention camps to await deportation, a source familiar with the plans confirmed to CNN.​

The plans, first reported by The New York Times, would necessitate building large camps to house migrants waiting for deportation and tapping federal and local law enforcement to assist with large-scale arrests of undocumented immigrants across the country.​

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Should Congress refuse to fund the operation, Trump could turn to a tactic used in his first term to secure more funding for a border wall — redirecting funds from the Pentagon, the source confirmed.​

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News of the proposals comes after Trump at a rally in Florida on Wednesday promised to conduct “the largest domestic deportation operation in American history” and argued criminals were coming through the US-Mexico border and warned of “young, strong people that had bad intentions.”​

It adds:

Stephen Miller, a former senior Trump administration official who led Trump’s immigration policy, told The Times, “Any activists who doubt President Trump’s resolve in the slightest are making a drastic error: Trump will unleash the vast arsenal of federal powers to implement the most spectacular migration crackdown.”​

We've seen this before.

The they're-all-the-same cynics are ignorant, dangerous fools.

Now hold on here.....

Its been said by many that Trump is a lying narcissists and everything Trump says is a lie.

So why should we take Trump at his word now?

 

[Colt]

There may be factions within the left which could be described accurately as anti-Israel, but I think most of the left just want Israel to respect international law.

ETA and surely you are aware of right factions which are anti-Jewish.

There was/is an attempt to build momentum behind the rape and murder of 1,400 Jews, before Israel had even responded!

 

[Revoltingest]

Now hold on here.....

Its been said by many that Trump is a lying narcissists and everything Trump says is a lie.

So why should we take Trump on his word now?

Trump doesn't always lie.
On occasion, the truth suits him.
So he grudgingly goes with it.

 

[danieldemol]

There was/is an attempt to build momentum behind the rape and murder of 1,400 Jews, before Israel had even responded!

I think you are referring to radical Islamists now, not to the standard member of the left in the US.

 

[Ponder This]

We've seen this before.

The they're-all-the-same cynics are ignorant, dangerous fools.

Some people cynical of Trump seem to think that all the people who enter the U.S. are the same: good, moral, hard-working people with legitimate asylum claims.

You have a better plan?

That's the thing. They don't have any better plan other than to allow the U.S. border to be controlled by criminal cartels, drug and human traffickers who kill 300 U.S. citizens with fentanyl every day, and for the U.S. to derive economic benefit through the exploitation of a worker class stripped of basic rights. It's disgusting that anyone is so morally bankrupt as to support this method of immigration. And yet the fact that Trump has a plan to deal with the problem triggers people's TDS and causes them to argue that it doesn't matter what policy is used for immigration as long as the one person they passionately hate is not elected.

What's the plan? Their plan is: who cares as long as Trump isn't elected. They have immense difficulty to rationally separate border solutions from their deep unresolvable hatred of Trump. Their solution is to ignore the border and compare Trump to Hitler. Disregard the fact that Trump kept the U.S. out of new wars but Hitler tried to take over everything. Hitler represents to them the embodiment of one they should hate from the bottom of their hearts and therefore Trump must be Hitler in their minds. If Hitler sneezed and Trump coughed, they would point at it with an accusatory finger, "See! They are the same!"

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's the thing. They don't have any better plan other than to allow the U.S. border to be controlled by criminal cartels, drug and human traffickers who kill 300 U.S. citizens with fentanyl every day, and for the U.S. to derive economic benefit through the exploitation of a worker class stripped of basic rights. It's disgusting that anyone is so morally bankrupt as to support this method of immigration. And yet the fact that Trump has a plan to deal with the problem triggers people's TDS and causes them to argue that it doesn't matter what policy is used for immigration as long as the one person they passionately hate is not elected.

What's the plan? Their plan is: who cares as long as Trump isn't elected. They have immense difficulty to rationally separate border solutions from their deep unresolvable hatred of Trump. Their solution is to ignore the border and compare Trump to Hitler. Disregard the fact that Trump kept the U.S. out of new wars but Hitler tried to take over everything. Hitler represents to them the embodiment of one they should hate from the bottom of their hearts and therefore Trump must be Hitler in their minds. If Hitler sneezed and Trump coughed, they would point at it with an accusatory finger, "See! They are the same!"

It's tiresome to hear all the bragging and boasting from the left on how so much better they can run things, when it actually comes the time to putting the money where ones mouth is, they cannot do jack **** aside from complaining and whining more and more about how their opponents are gumming up their plans as they themselves can't even do squat aside from making life for people harder and harder and more aggravating each passing year.

 

[Colt]

I think you are referring to radical Islamists now, not to the standard member of the left in the US.

We even have members of Congress supporting the Hamas lead movement! Antisemitism is leaking out all over the place!

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Some people cynical of Trump seem to think that all the people who enter the U.S. are the same: good, moral, hard-working people with legitimate asylum claims.

 

[Revoltingest]

Some people cynical of Trump seem to think that all the people who enter the U.S. are the same: good, moral, hard-working people with legitimate asylum claims.


That's the thing. They don't have any better plan other than to allow the U.S. border to be controlled by criminal cartels, drug and human traffickers who kill 300 U.S. citizens with fentanyl every day, and for the U.S. to derive economic benefit through the exploitation of a worker class stripped of basic rights. It's disgusting that anyone is so morally bankrupt as to support this method of immigration. And yet the fact that Trump has a plan to deal with the problem triggers people's TDS and causes them to argue that it doesn't matter what policy is used for immigration as long as the one person they passionately hate is not elected.

What's the plan? Their plan is: who cares as long as Trump isn't elected. They have immense difficulty to rationally separate border solutions from their deep unresolvable hatred of Trump. Their solution is to ignore the border and compare Trump to Hitler. Disregard the fact that Trump kept the U.S. out of new wars but Hitler tried to take over everything. Hitler represents to them the embodiment of one they should hate from the bottom of their hearts and therefore Trump must be Hitler in their minds. If Hitler sneezed and Trump coughed, they would point at it with an accusatory finger, "See! They are the same!"

Most of the border control dispute is mere partisan
politics. Dems oppose Pubs' draconian enforcement
until Dems are in power...then do pretty much the
same thing. Both parties fail to control the border,
Trump having utterly failed with his wall. Trump's
focus for re-election is purging & persecuting his
political enemies. Expect no real change at the
border.

 

[Twilight Hue]

We even have members of Congress supporting the Hamas lead movement! Antisemitism is leaking out all over the place!

It's incredible those who openly decry and accuse fascism on others , become antisemitic and bigoted fascists themselves.

 

[Revoltingest]

We even have members of Congress supporting the Hamas lead movement! Antisemitism is leaking out all over the place!

It's incredible those who openly decry and accuse fascism on others , become antisemitic and bigoted fascists themselves.

Because it's anti-semitic when one opposes Israel's war crimes,
& believes the absurd notion that human rights apply not
only to Jews, but also Muslims. Tlaib should be in prison!

 

[Twilight Hue]

Because it's anti-semitic when one opposes Israel's war crimes,
& believes the absurd notion that human rights apply not
only to Jews, but also Muslims. Tlaib should be in prison!

I think track records speak for themselves as to just who the good guys are vs who the bad guys are.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think track records speak for themselves as to just who the good guys are vs who the bad guys are.

Unfortunately, the only candidates with any chance
of winning the Presidency are the bad guys.
The good guys (Libertarians) are few & loopy.
But we should always vote against a power mad
treasonous crook who attempted a coup.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Unfortunately, the only candidates with any chance
of winning the Presidency are the bad guys.
The good guys (Libertarians) are few & loopy.
But we should always vote against a power mad
treasonous crook who attempted a coup.

OK spikey.

 

[Colt]

Because it's anti-semitic when one opposes Israel's war crimes,
& believes the absurd notion that human rights apply not
only to Jews, but also Muslims. Tlaib should be in prison!

Hamas is literally counting on you to continue to represent their plan!

 

[F1fan]

There was/is an attempt to build momentum behind the rape and murder of 1,400 Jews, before Israel had even responded!

Was/is there? What are you talking about in your vague claim? More shadow posting from conservatives.

It's tiresome to hear all the bragging and boasting from the left on how so much better they can run things, when it actually comes the time to putting the money where ones mouth is, they cannot do jack **** aside from complaining and whining more and more about how their opponents are gumming up their plans as they themselves can't even do squat aside from making life for people harder and harder and more aggravating each passing year.

Rule 1: treat all humans humanely. This is federal and international law, both of which the Trump administration violated with the caging of migrants in unsanitary conditions, way longer than what is allowed by law, and without adequate food, water, and medical care.

Republicans, namely Trump and his band of criminals, have, and intend to, treat migrants as subhuman and criminals. They separated over a thousand children from their parents. The number isn't really known since they failed to keep records.

Close to 1,000 migrant children separated by Trump yet to be reunited with parents

Nearly 1,000 migrant children separated at the U.S.-Mexico border by the administration of former President Donald Trump have yet to be reunited with their parents despite a two-year effort by President Joe Biden.

www.reuters.com

More of this, but worse, with a Trump re-election?

Democrats might not have any way to put forward a plan, but again, it HAS to be a group effort. And as long as republicans continue to use migrants as a boogeyman to fear they won't have any motive to help create a solution.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Why is this quote not common sense???? “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully to become immigrants in this country.”

How is that racist or Hitler like???

Read your language, above, then read the language of Trump and Hitler in @anna.s post. Can you see the difference in language? Both Trump and Hitler use language like "vermin" and "enemies," while you used more reasonable terms, like "undocumented" and "unchecked," which does not demonize other humans. The former is really characteristic of authoritarian leanings.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Hamas is literally counting on you to continue to represent their plan!

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There's a deep parallel existing in comparison with Hamas with the Tamili Tigers.

To Defeat Hamas, Emulate the Destruction of the Tamil Tigers

There are many parallels between Sri Lanka's decades-long fight against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelan (LTTE), more commonly known as the "Tamil Tigers," and Israel's decades-long fight against the Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiya, more commonly

www.meforum.org

Likely the only 'solution' available is to see Hamas go the same way as the Tamili Tigers had around 2009.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hamas is literally counting on you to continue to represent their plan!

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And Israel depends upon your ilk to commit
war crimes with impunity. But they're only
Muslims, so no biggie.

 

[Colt]

And Israel depends upon your ilk to commit
war crimes with impunity. But they're only
Muslims, so no biggie.

What lead you to look down on Israeli Muslims???