Marijuana ~ What is your opinion toward it?

[Alceste]

what about this from your link

fail


Results: Current marijuana use was significantly correlated (p < 0.05) in a dose- related fashion with a decline in IQ over the ages studied.

That's more than 5 joints a week. Current potheads who smoke less than 5 joints a week experience a similar INCREASE, and the highest IQ increase out of the entire group, including non-users.

Read a little more carefully. Don't just look for a single sentence that you think backs you up.

 

[SageTree]

I've read similar studies where Average smokers test better on certain skills that non or light smokers, but not heavy smokers.

 

[outhouse]

try finding a head who limits less then 5 joints a week. That right there is next to impossible.

most heads I know do a a doob a day at minimum. thats 7 a week for a impaired followers



when I was loaded I scored in the to 7% nationwide in my mechanics exams, a lot more to life then passing a test.

 

[outhouse]

That's more than 5 joints a week. Current potheads who smoke less than 5 joints a week experience a similar INCREASE, and the highest IQ increase out of the entire group, including non-users.

Read a little more carefully. Don't just look for a single sentence that you think backs you up.

from your link


To use IQ difference scores as a dependent variable to measure the effects of anything on the complexity of human cognitive functioning is at best woefully simplistic.

At worst, it perpetuates the dangerous and misguided myth that human intelligence can be encapsulated in 1 score — a belief that is abused and misused by many professionals and lay people alike. This "single score" notion not only misrepresents the whole field of modern psychometrics in the area of intellectual assessment but also ignores how marijuana and other drugs may affect some aspects of cognitive functioning but not others

 

[SageTree]

try finding a head who limits less then 5 joints a week. That right there is next to impossible.

most heads I know do a a doob a day at minimum. thats 7 a week for a impaired followers

Um... I have a problem with that statement for many reasons.

I know LOTS of people who don't EVER smoke joints and come nothing close to 5 joints, but are somehow always lifted to some extent.

 

[outhouse]

Um... I have a problem with that statement for many reasons.

I know LOTS of people who don't EVER smoke joints and come nothing close to 5 joints, but are somehow always lifted to some extent.

the only dopers I know that smoke less then 5 doobs a week are broke and dont have enough friends to support their habit.

well that and many grade school children havnt hit 5 a week YET


Its a fact most dopers get loaded everyday, please lets pay attention to the word "most"

 

[no-body]

the only dopers I know that smoke less then 5 doobs a week are broke and dont have enough friends to support their habit.

well that and many grade school children havnt hit 5 a week YET


Its a fact most dopers get loaded everyday, please lets pay attention to the word "most"

What is the point of debating with you if anyone who even looks at cannabis is a depraved dope fiend?

How do you feel about alcohol prohibition or gun control?

 

[SageTree]

the only dopers I know that smoke less then 5 doobs a week are broke and dont have enough friends to support their habit.

well that and many grade school children havnt hit 5 a week YET


Its a fact most dopers get loaded everyday, please lets pay attention to the word "most"

Ok... well I have a 'friend' that sure as heck isn't 'most' and he tells me this conversation is a little toooo generalized.

And generalizations make negative feelings easier.

signed,
'Friend'

 

[Storm]

from your link


To use IQ difference scores as a dependent variable to measure the effects of anything on the complexity of human cognitive functioning is at best woefully simplistic.

At worst, it perpetuates the dangerous and misguided myth that human intelligence can be encapsulated in 1 score — a belief that is abused and misused by many professionals and lay people alike. This "single score" notion not only misrepresents the whole field of modern psychometrics in the area of intellectual assessment but also ignores how marijuana and other drugs may affect some aspects of cognitive functioning but not others

You realize that undermines your argument that it lowers IQ, as well... right?

 

[SageTree]

^ zing!

 

[Storm]

the only dopers I know that smoke less then 5 doobs a week are broke and dont have enough friends to support their habit.

well that and many grade school children havnt hit 5 a week YET


Its a fact most dopers get loaded everyday, please lets pay attention to the word "most"

No, it's a fact that you have repeatedly presented your unsubstantiated opinions as "fact." Problem is, facts are backed up by more than "I say so."

 

[DreadFish]

didnt mess up my life

didnt cause me harm.



watching TV right now about the guy murdered in Almador county ca, seemed to have messed up his life pretty good though.

Wait, I thought you claimed numerous times that it messed with your education and all that. You are a very confusing person. Maybe pot does kill brain cells

 

[outhouse]

No, it's a fact that you have repeatedly presented your unsubstantiated opinions as "fact." Problem is, facts are backed up by more than "I say so."

I have posted plenty of links with facts


Your also asking for evidence from a subculture of criminals who preform ilegal activities on a daily basis.

 

[outhouse]

Wait, I thought you claimed numerous times that it messed with your education and all that. You are a very confusing person. Maybe pot does kill brain cells

it did screw up not just my education, but many of its users.

I educated myself aftwards.

 

[Storm]

I have posted plenty of links with facts

If any of your government propaganda sites supported things like "all dopers are Beavis & Butthead," I missed it. Also, the fact that they're government sites under orders to justify prohibition kinda undermines their credibility.

Your also asking for evidence from a subculture of criminals who preform ilegal activities on a daily basis.

No, I'm asking for evidence from YOU. Or, at minimum, an end to your punctuation of every highly biased opinion, anecdote, and stereotype with "its [sic] a fact."

 

[no-body]

Your also asking for evidence from a subculture of criminals who preform ilegal activities on a daily basis.

Exact same logic that was used during alcohol prohibition.

You are a teetotaler that will preach to your kids about the dangers of alcohol as well as marijuana, right?

 

[SageTree]

Your also asking for evidence from a subculture of criminals who preform ilegal activities on a daily basis.

WHY it's illegal in the first place has NOTHING to do with it's medical or non-medical uses.

When Alcohol was illegal... there was LOTS of crime.

Now there isn't. (unless you include all the auto accidents and death attributed to it)

Would legality effect how 'criminal and illegal' Cannabis is?


:yes:



It's hard for people to legitimately study a plant that is kept illegal and it's hard to change minds with facts when those in control completely ignore the results of periodical study.



I'm getting bored with this conversation.
It's obvious we're not changing minds here either.

:sleep:

 

[DreadFish]

it did screw up not just my education, but many of its users.

I educated myself aftwards.

So you admit that it messed with your life? You are changing your stance to suit you argument my friend.

 

[SageTree]

You are a teetotaler that will preach to your kids about the dangers of alcohol as well as marijuana, right?

And heaven help you when they try it,
It doesn't kill them,
And the foundation of trust between you begins to crumble,
Then taking their activities into secret, hiding it away.

 

[SageTree]

Thread dedications!!!

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Peter Tosh - Legalize it live - YouTube

(not trolling I swear)