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Missouri Republicans vote 104-39 to reject open-carry amendment

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Squirrel hunting?
Is that like a thing in America?

I mean we hunt Ibises here so I’m not judging or anything.
I’d imagine such a small fast target does improve your aim

Ibis like all native birds are protected, it's illegal to harm them.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
More scoffing and hand waiving. Be sure you're wearing a brace so you don't break your wrist waiving off so much. That you don't think a "sensible person" would allow this to happen does not change the facts linked above, and your indifferent attitude is directly indicative of a key factor in the problems that our nation faces with guns.

Many states have youth hunting fir generally 9-16 year olds. Look up youth hunting.

Oh! I thought you night like this...

Hunting Age Requirements for Each State

Hunting Age Requirements for Each State
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Many states have youth hunting fir generally 9-16 year olds. Look up youth hunting.
Yeah, I already mentioned that the minimum to hunt alone (unsupervised by an adult) in Missouri is eleven (11).

Now, with the apparent increase of minors carrying weapons around for more than hunting, what's the legal recourse for them doing so? Because right now you and 104 absolutely moronically psychotic Republican representatives think it's a-okay because squirrel hunting with a .22 or some other nonsense.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Yeah, I already mentioned that the minimum to hunt alone (unsupervised by an adult) in Missouri is eleven (11).

Now, with the apparent increase of minors carrying weapons around for more than hunting, what's the legal recourse for them doing so? Because right now you and 104 absolutely moronically psychotic Republican representatives think it's a-okay because squirrel hunting with a .22 or some other nonsense.


"with the apparent increase of minors carrying weapons around for more than hunting"

Where is this legally happening at?
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Where is this legally happening at?
You know, it's somewhat amazing that you unnecessarily quote me twice and still don't get the point?

Anyways, St Louis apparently. Which was the entire reason for the amendment brought forward by St. Louis police that was rejected by the aforementioned moronic House Republicans. So much for Backing the Blue, amirit?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Again all I see is "I hate guns and nobody should have them. Ban guns so I will be happy"
It's a nice scenario made for no guns no death, but its not realistic at all in spite of wishing otherwise.

Weapons have always been a necessity in nature weither as a tool, or naturalized in the body.

People shouldn't be so infatuated with the fantasy of weaponless 'security' because raw reality has that way of reminding on how things are.

I also think there is nothing wrong or immoral with keeping safe and happy through the means by which our weapons are employed and used for the greater peace and welfare of an individual.

I do hope however hope, non lethal means will become as effective as the lethal version someday. At least for the larger part of humanity.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Premium Member
Welcome to Missouri.

To be honest, I have been hauling around rifles and a few other related things pretty much since I was 7 or 8 years old. I was trained by a Marine about the responsible use of firearms. That they are not toys. That you don't turn to them in anger or jest. They are tools and must be treated with respect for the kind of tools they are.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You know, it's somewhat amazing that you unnecessarily quote me twice and still don't get the point?

Anyways, St Louis apparently. Which was the entire reason for the amendment brought forward by St. Louis police that was rejected by the aforementioned moronic House Republicans. So much for Backing the Blue, amirit?

""with the apparent increase of minors carrying weapons around for more than hunting"

How is quoting your post misquoting you?
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Premium Member
I did meet a guy once. A park ranger that carried wallet-sized pictures of the guns he owned. He showed them to me like they were his kids or something. I worried about him and if he represented a kind of gun owner I hadn't seen before and wasn't interested in meeting more. Apparently, he was part of a growing trend that venerates guns like holy objects. Those folks worry me a little. When you start mixing guns with religion, you're just looking for the moral authority to justify use for personal reasons that are neither moral nor come from any authority.

He was from New Mexico though. An import. Maybe we should build a wall around the state to keep out New Mexican immigrants. Nah.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Premium Member
I'm curious just how you get that from, and let me help you out here a bit, CHILDREN should be supervised by an adult when handling a DEADLY WEAPON.
I agree with you. In Missouri, any hunter 15 or under has to have participated in a hunter education program and they must be under the supervision of an adult that is licensed to hunt and also has had the training. The card showing this participation has to be on them at the time they are hunting.

I didn't have to take this program to hunt, since I was born before a certain date, but I took it when I was younger anyway.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Premium Member
For context, the age someone can get a full driver's license in MO is 18.
Really? I didn't know it had changed. Of course, I haven't cared since I was 16. The age you had to be to get one when I was coming up.

I'm pretty sure that I agree with this. There are more people killed on the road than there are in hunting accidents. You are more likely to die hunting for an parking spot than for a deer.

But your point is noted. As I said, any hunter 15 or under has to be trained and supervised. In Missouri.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Because he is a child. I don't care what anecdotes are drug out about hunting squirrels in the 70's alone in the woods, a 17 year old is a child. A child does not need to be running around in the woods, firing around at squirrels without an adult present.

Now, yet again, tell me why a child does not need restrictions. Because again, currently there is no restriction. You're throwing out 17 year old boys, keep going down. How about a 6 year old?
Obviously our conservative members think highly of the maturity level of current American adolescents. They do no wrong.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Premium Member
Obviously our conservative members think highly of the maturity level of current American adolescents. They do no wrong.
Lawful exercise of hunting within regulations by trained minors under supervision is a lot different than some untrained, underaged moron illegally possessing an AR-15 and deciding he is a police officer.

I don't know what need it filled, given we already had laws governing this.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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Premium Member
Lol, funny stuff. I was " open carrying" at 12. It's called hunting. Would you prefer the gun be concealed? To what purpose?
Unless a person hunts in a drover coat, I would think concealing a hunting rifle would be a little difficult even for an adult.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Ibis? The bird? What are they hunted for?
Sorry it was a bit of a joke on my part. They are seen as both a pest due to their scavenging in domesticated cities/suburbs. They are nicknamed the “bin chicken” due to this habit. So there is perhaps a bit of “joking disgust” for them among some locals.
But as they are also native wildlife they are argued to be valuable to the environment.
My friends and I like to joke that we should put them on the bbq so they could be of use.
And lately with food supplies being affected due to various natural disasters, we joke that maybe the bin chicken is a good alternative.
Of course since they are native wildlife they are federally protected by our government and neither myself nor my friends would ever hurt them. Since that is actually illegal.
Apologies for the confusion. That’ll teach me for posting before breakfast lol

(Though in saying that I suppose it is weird that at the same time we sell kangaroo meat in the supermarkets. Like not even kidding.)
 
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