Missouri Republicans vote 104-39 to reject open-carry amendment

[Curious George]

Hey anyone actually know what this bill was called so I can look it up and know the legalise of it? I'm having trouble finding it.

It was HB 301. You will have to look up previous versions if you want to see the bits that they pulled out.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So far hunting is all there is as a "legitimate" reason. The minimum for unsupervised hunting in Missouri is 11 years old. You really want 11 year olds running around in the woods with guns, unsupervised?

It would depend on the kids. That is a bit on the young side. And I would not mind that much if the parents were held criminally liable if heir kids did anything wrong.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Sorry it was a bit of a joke on my part. They are seen as both a pest due to their scavenging in domesticated cities/suburbs. They are nicknamed the “bin chicken” due to this habit. So there is perhaps a bit of “joking disgust” for them among some locals.
But as they are also native wildlife they are argued to be valuable to the environment.
My friends and I like to joke that we should put them on the bbq so they could be of use.
And lately with food supplies being affected due to various natural disasters, we joke that maybe the bin chicken is a good alternative.
Of course since they are native wildlife they are federally protected by our government and neither myself nor my friends would ever hurt them. Since that is actually illegal.
Apologies for the confusion. That’ll teach me for posting before breakfast lol

(Though in saying that I suppose it is weird that at the same time we sell kangaroo meat in the supermarkets. Like not even kidding.)

You're good. I was curious. I didn't know the back story and I enjoy good humorous irony as opposed to some of the serious irony I more often encounter.

I like the colloquial name of bin chicken. Reminds me of trash panda that is sometime used in reference to our racoons.

I'd try kangaroo, though I'm more interested in the idea of them as a companion animal. That pouch would be useful for hiking.

Animals that can adapt to human occupation tend to be very successful. The alternative route to success as a species around people is to be tasty.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It would depend on the kids. That is a bit on the young side. And I would not mind that much if the parents were held criminally liable if heir kids did anything wrong.

Doing a little searching, I am finding some information that conflicts with what I thought I knew regarding age limitations. It's been a while since I was a youth. Seems the regs must have changed a bit. That and I didn't hunt unsupervised when I was a kid. My father was there with us. And sometimes other adults. At least in earshot. No pun intended.

We weren't turned lose like a bunch of feral children without instruction which I think is the image that some are thinking. Though, I have to admit that unsupervised 11 year old kids would need to be vetted and well instructed prior to going out.

 

[John53]

Sorry it was a bit of a joke on my part. They are seen as both a pest due to their scavenging in domesticated cities/suburbs. They are nicknamed the “bin chicken” due to this habit. So there is perhaps a bit of “joking disgust” for them among some locals.
But as they are also native wildlife they are argued to be valuable to the environment.
My friends and I like to joke that we should put them on the bbq so they could be of use.
And lately with food supplies being affected due to various natural disasters, we joke that maybe the bin chicken is a good alternative.
Of course since they are native wildlife they are federally protected by our government and neither myself nor my friends would ever hurt them. Since that is actually illegal.
Apologies for the confusion. That’ll teach me for posting before breakfast lol

(Though in saying that I suppose it is weird that at the same time we sell kangaroo meat in the supermarkets. Like not even kidding.)

I understand it was a joke but as a bird lover I feel the need to defend the Ibis and maybe changed your thoughts on them. They're a wonderful example of evolution, that some are reduced to scavenging from bins is a reflection on humans not them, we build along the coast, dam rivers and fill in wetlands so they're natural areas have been destroyed, it's also an example of how wasteful we are. There's 3 species of Ibis in Aus, the Glossy and Straw-necked Ibis seem to be continually on the move and are beneficial to farmers because they eat a lot of pests, they've even learnt how to eat the non-poisonous parts of cane toads. The White Ibis seen in cities are more sedentary and their numbers have dropped alarmingly the last 40 or 50 years.

Sorry for the lecture but hopefully next time you see some you might be more sympathetic for their plight.

 

[SomeRandom]

I understand it was a joke but as a bird lover I feel the need to defend the Ibis and maybe changed your thoughts on them. They're a wonderful example of evolution, that some are reduced to scavenging from bins is a reflection on humans not them, we build along the coast, dam rivers and fill in wetlands so they're natural areas have been destroyed, it's also an example of how wasteful we are. There's 3 species of Ibis in Aus, the Glossy and Straw-necked Ibis seem to be continually on the move and are beneficial to farmers because they eat a lot of pests, they've even learnt how to eat the non-poisonous parts of cane toads. The White Ibis seen in cities are more sedentary and their numbers have dropped alarmingly the last 40 or 50 years.

Sorry for the lecture but hopefully next time you see some you might be more sympathetic for their plight.

No need for the lecture.
My father was a bird breeder. He had a whole collection of various species under his care
I grew up around various bird species and I understand the biological necessity of them all.
(We actually had French finches, white doves and various cockatiels, mainly. A few others crept into our care over the years. So our birds weren’t exactly native. Not entirely anyway.)
I don’t really mean any ill will towards our “bin chicken.”
It’s all just fun and games to me, at the end of the day.
Besides I’m a born Hindu and I grew up in what we call a “Sai Baba family.”
To harm an animal is considered a grave “sin” in my community. More or less

 

[Heyo]

Coming hot on the heels of rulings cracking down on the SCANDOLOUS dress coats worn by Congresswomen and the HIGHLY DANGEROUS drag shows, House Republicans just voted 104-39 to reject an amendment to state law that would prohibit minors from being able to open-carry a firearm on public land without adult supervision. Which currently, minors are not prohibited from openly carrying a firearm in public spaces, only owning one.

Man. Dragshows and Dresscoats kept me up enough at night (/s), but now some angry 12 year old with an AR-15? Eh, we'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

I guess the NRA needed fresh data for their politician ratings. So they made up this little show for virtue signalling. Or was anyone under the impression that any sensible gun restriction could be implemented in the US?

 

[Altfish]

Tell me why a 17 year old boy going squirrel hunting in the mark twain national forest needs adult supervision?

You don't know why?
What age can you legally consume alcohol in your backward country?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Doing a little searching, I am finding some information that conflicts with what I thought I knew regarding age limitations. It's been a while since I was a youth. Seems the regs must have changed a bit. That and I didn't hunt unsupervised when I was a kid. My father was there with us. And sometimes other adults. At least in earshot. No pun intended.

We weren't turned lose like a bunch of feral children without instruction which I think is the image that some are thinking. Though, I have to admit that unsupervised 11 year old kids would need to be vetted and well instructed prior to going out.

I grew up on a farm that was almost a quarter section. We had woods with plenty of squirrel. I may have hunted with my father a couple of times, but most of the time it was by myself. He would probably not have been so easy on state property.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

All I see is "I hate guns and people shouldn't have them"

Again.... Tell me why a 17 year old boy going squirrel hunting in the mark twain national forest needs adult supervision?

And all I see is "we love guns, and everybody should have at least 6. Anyway, no human has ever been shot with one in this here 'Merica!"

 

[ImmortalFlame]

All I see is "I hate guns and people shouldn't have them"

Ah, I see, so the issue is that you're having difficulty reading?

Again.... Tell me why a 17 year old boy going squirrel hunting in the mark twain national forest needs adult supervision?

Because... they could very easily kill someone?

Is there a precondition I'm unaware of, here?

 

[We Never Know]

You don't know why?
What age can you legally consume alcohol in your backward country?

What does alcohol have to do with squirrel hunting?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What does alcohol have to do with squirrel hunting?

Squirrels get thirsty too.

 

[We Never Know]

Ah, I see, so the issue is that you're having difficulty reading?


Because... they could very easily kill someone?

Is there a precondition I'm unaware of, here?

They could easily kill someone driving too.

 

[We Never Know]

And all I see is "we love guns, and everybody should have at least 6. Anyway, no human has ever been shot with one in this here 'Merica!"

Ah.. Nothing.to add of importance as usual.

 

[We Never Know]

Squirrels get thirsty too.

Don't for get the smokes. They may want a cigarette to go with their drink.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You don't know why?
What age can you legally consume alcohol in your backward country?

Twenty-one. That is higher than elsewhere, might have something to do with all of those guns.

 

[We Never Know]

Twenty-one. That is higher than elsewhere, might have something to do with all of those guns.

Its 15 1/2 to get a driver permint.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Ah.. Nothing.to add of importance as usual.

Of course not. But I often like to remind all the "pro-life" folks out there that in the first 6 weeks of this year alone, the US has had 71 mass shootings. That's 12, every single week since January 1! I figure that's not a matter of any importance to you, from the tone of the above comment. After all, you haven't been shot, and that's what really matters, eh?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

They could easily kill someone driving too.

Sure. Which is why you are generally required to have a license, or be supervised, and follow a long string of safety precautions, and there are strict limits to where you can drive a car. Are you in favour of those for guns?