It is impossible to know that without having new, concrete regulation proposals in front of us.
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More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows
- Thread starter Kangaroo Feathers
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
In my state you can be arrested for just having pepper spray.
Well, it's possible to use it improperly.
Therefore no one should be defending him/herself with it, eh.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Freedom?
That murderer was free to get himself a bunch of guns, are you happy with that kind of freedom?
I never said he was properly exercising his freedom.
But even that has to do with freedom....exercising it, & limitations upon it.
Thus, my pouncement.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Competing interests will be balanced.What? I thought you defended FREEDOM?
Yuk yuk yuk....
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
So you can have freedom, but only as long as it's properly exercised freedom?
And there are limitations to your freedom?
Well there's loads of folks who think that possession of a fast fire rifle which they don't actually need, apart from dreaming about fighting some freedom fight against goodness only knows who, is NOT a proper exercising of freedom.
Your pounce........ come on....
I think you're heading off in a direction I didn't intend.
In post #48, you brought up many things, & said they'v nothing to do with freedom.
They're all related to freedom in one way or another.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Gun regulation stopped that crazy from buying a bunch of military machine guns, or anti-tank bazookas. True?
Gun regulations are a sensible limitation to freedom whilst helping to protect from mass killings, they just need tweeking to close some gaps, and semi-auto limitations would not be bad.
Plus you need mandatory criminal checks, stability checks, home security safe and intruder protection and all-risks gun insurance before licence issue.
You see?, you still got freedom.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm waiting for them to make pointy shoes illegal.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Let's start with 'simple'...... *chuckles*
You can't have total freedom. US citizens aren't allowed to avoid the laws of gravity without various machines. And you need to fulfill/surpass masses of obstacles to achieve the right to obtain 'em and use 'em.
And so it could be with some guns. It would be nice if folks could own more simple guns without quite so many requirements. Apart from the fact that black powder is great for blasting stuff, if that killer had had a single action muzzle loading six shooter, how many victims do you think he could have hurt? But he had a fast-fire semi-auto rifle which can empty its magazine as fast as he could pull the trigger.
Okey dokey!Let's start with 'simple'...... *chuckles*
You can't have total freedom. US citizens aren't allowed to avoid the laws of gravity without various machines. And you need to fulfill/surpass masses of obstacles to achieve the right to obtain 'em and use 'em.
And so it could be with some guns. It would be nice if folks could own more simple guns without quite so many requirements. Apart from the fact that black powder is great for blasting stuff, if that killer had had a single action muzzle loading six shooter, how many victims do you think he could have hurt? But he had a fast-fire semi-auto rifle which can empty its magazine as fast as he could pull the trigger.
socharlie
Active Member
it depends how determined is the crazy, with right amount of $$$ one can get it, no regulation can stop the transaction.
socharlie
Active Member
I predict that law abiding will be subjected all types f shake downs while criminal still have the guns...
socharlie
Active Member
illykitty
RF's pet cat
Quoted this, since it seems to have either been ignored or gone off people's radars. If you want to know if it works to put restrictions on weapons, look at the facts using real life application. Australia banned semis and fast loading guns too after a mass shooting, IIRC. Look at the data for countries with severe gun laws, we don't have this problem. Only the USA has this issue. Ask yourselves why and be honest.
Guns should be limited to target shooting and/or hunting, like it is in most developed countries. I'll repeat again, we don't have this mass shooting problem.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Well pick one.... or all, and let's have a look at them.
And don't forget, you're not free to get a job driving trains, or planes, or doctoring, or carrying out surgeries on folks ( *eek!*) ......... there's lots of 'things' you're not free to do without jumping through various kinds of social hoops.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Regulation ended sales of machine guns, though. It just allowed existing ones to remain in private hands.
You've got many regulations; you just need a few more....